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| ==Re: Deletion of my additions== | |||
| Dear Chas, | |||
| You recently posted a complaint on the Misplaced Pages help page. I'd like to try and help you solve your issue but first, since you're new, I'll show you a couple of things that next time will make your query quicker and more easily to respond to. | |||
| Your addition to the help page was: | |||
| ''I honestly put down that I have shares in the company whose website I posted. I'm actually retired, the company is a startup and there is no money currently involved. The additions I made were appropriate - tourism for Adelaide, South Australia, virtual reality, panoramic photography. The intention was not to promote the company, whose activities are limited to South Australia anyway, but to provide visibility into a technique which is not often used. | |||
| I'm very reluctant to try and help with Misplaced Pages in the future if being honest leads to deletion of my articles. Chas.'' | |||
| Firstly, I think that the link you added may well have been appropriate and will look into puttting it back up. However, in order to even know what link you were talking about, I had to do a bit of detective work (this is time consuming and puts people off helping in situations like this - none of us here are paid by Misplaced Pages to help - I'm just a regular user like you). First I had to look in the history of the help page on which you posted the above message and look for a promising edit so see first of all, who had posted the message. I found a user with the username 'Chasadlard' which looked like a likely candidate, seeing as you manually signed your message with 'Chas'. In the future, if you sign your messages with four consecutive tildes <nowiki>(~~~~)</nowiki> an automatic signature is appended to your message, providing readers with a direct link to your user and talk pages (no detective work necessary!). | |||
| Second, in order to have a clue as to what link you were talking about, I had to delve into your contributions and poke around for something about 'shares'. In the future, you can create a link for someone to find any article you're talking about using the following format: <nowiki>]</nowiki> when typed into the editing window will give ] when saved. This way, I'd have had access to a) your talk page and b) the scene of the crime in a matter of seconds! | |||
| Finally, when adding a new entry onto a discussion page (be that a person's own talk page or the help desk), it's good to add a title, to separate it from the other entries (as it happens, your entry was lumped under my title, since you posted right after I did). I turned your pseudo-title 'Deletion of my additions' into a real on by adding two equals (=) symbols either side in the form <nowiki>==Deletion of my additions==</nowiki>. | |||
| It's important to note that the Misplaced Pages community consists of thousands of editors, regular and irregular (in every meaning of the word!) and that the people that pick up a message on the help desk, almost certainly aren't going to have any clue of an interaction between people that occured while editing any given page. | |||
| Adding the same link to multiple pages does ring some alarm bells for many editors - they are likely to question whether your true goal is help Misplaced Pages or promote the website to which you're linking. Since I'm totally independant of this company, and I feel it appears that the link may be of some use to readers, I'm going to ivestigate as to whether it can be brought back to some pages. But do realise, that as a community of about 100 000 (I think), I can't accurately predict what other people might deem a useful link, and it may be removed again. | |||
| It's also relevant that the 'see also' section is for internal links (links to other Misplaced Pages pages) whereas the 'external links' section is of course for pages off Misplaced Pages. There are in fact some quick tutorials that can help a new user get editing quickly - if you're interested, I can point you in the right direction? | |||
| I hope I've made things a little clearer for you in this mad, mad, wikiworld, without coming across too condescending or anything like that. I hope you'll stay with "us" and help to continue to build the best information resource ever imagined! If you'd like to contact me, you can get to my talk page by clicking on the 'potato business' part of my signature (people that havn't manuplated their signatures would normally have 'talk' written in brackets). Oh, and welcome to Misplaced Pages! :) --] ''']''' 14:26, 25 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :I was in the process of doing that same detective deduction, so I will post a list of links that you need to read. They will give you the essential basic tenets of Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines, particularly those that may be most relevant to you right now: ], ], ], and ]. There are a few dozen others that I could list, but those are the most relevant to your query. See also, my ] (designed for my own reference, but may be useful nonetheless) and the extensive ]. Contact me if I can help. ] ] 14:52, 25 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::I also just ran into your helpdesk comment, and second the above comments. Don't be discouraged, or take offence that some of your links were removed. There are often quite subtle reasons - and it takes time to get the feel of them - behind typical decisions about including links or not. | |||
| ::It's important to be sensitive to the topic of the article. For example, with general articles on techniques - for instance, ] and ] - links tend to be restricted to sites that focus on explaining those techniques, not ones that just showcase them. Another example: ] is specifically about the genre of ground-level social-documentary photography of people, not panoramic photography of streets. And so on. ] 16:26, 25 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
