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Hey!

It's nice to see a new username looking at the articles on Race and intelligence (they need a lot of work!) If you have the change could you look at this new article I created today: Race and health? futurebird 04:56, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

^Cool, I'll check it out..Taharqa 05:00, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

PS you should think about joining WP:AFRO futurebird 05:04, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

^Oooh! That's a great idea! I'll see what I can do, I'll definitely try and see if I can..

Race and intelligence (explanations)‎

I really need some help with this article. I've added a ton of evidence against the genetic explanation, but now WRN is trying to frame the whole thing in terms of "well you never know it might be genetics!" --It's the idea that no matter what you do, I mean, even if there was no test score gap, until you have proven there is NO genetic link you ought to assume that there is one. He's invoking Occam's razor and I think that's ABSURD. Occam's razor says choose the obvious cause: RACISM. duh duh duh. I've just about had it with this article. How many years will it be before people simply realise that (a) Jensen is a nut (b) we ought to have been spending all this time and research money trying to help people live better lives rather than trying to prove that people are inferior because of some 19th century vendetta in some circles of the academic community against africa.

I'm just really angry and sick of going in circles. I need some help. I don't want to just give up and watch as all of my hard work is slowly obliterated. futurebird 05:22, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey

Hey Taharqa I'm not trying to cause any trouble editing the pages, with that info I found so I was hoping you could do it for me since you're more active on this page Louisvillian 23:36, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

^I don't know, I'm sure sure how to present it. I'll see if I can.Taharqa 23:52, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Hello

Great work so far from what I've seen. I don't understand why you deleted the section on the Indo-European expansion in the 2nd millenium BC. It was POV, but needs to be rewritten, not deleted. Anyway, keep up the good work. BTW, do you happen to post at Egyptsearch.com? — ዮም | (Yom) | Talk • contribs • Ethiopia 22:33, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

^Sup.. The indo-european crap was flat out Aryanistic propoganda with out source, that's why I deleted it. And yea, I pass through Egyptsearch from time to time, very informative site. - Taharqa

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Thanx for the invite!Taharqa 09:45, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

About the Sphinx

Taharqa, can you find informations in English about the commentaries of D. Vivant Denon on the Sphinx of Guizeh to be added to the article "Egypt and race"? He was an artist. He took part in the expedition of Bonaparte to Egypt and, once there, made a design of the Sphinx. Here are some informations in French http://www.africamaat.com/article.php3?id_article=155. Hotep! Lusala lu ne Nkuka Luka--195.110.156.38 22:28, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

The Black origin of the Greecs

Taharqa, find the full article about the Black African origin of the Greecs here http://www.africamaat.com/article.php3?id_article=914&artsuite=1 or here http://www.africamaat.com/article.php3?id_article=157&artsuite=1. Thank you for the links you suggested to me earlier. Hotep! Lusala lu ne Nkuka Luka--195.110.156.38 21:27, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

The links

Thank you Taharqa for the links on the work of Basil Davidson. I find this man quite objective about Africa. Because of his commitment to truth, Eurocentric scholarship qualifies him as a leftist. Yes, truth is bitter! Lusala lu ne Nkuka Luka--195.110.156.38 18:56, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

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Welcome back

Taharqa, things stoped since you have been stoped. Myself I wanted to be honest with you and Urthogie. I did not want to profit from your absence to make edits. So welcome back! Lusala lu ne Nkuka Luka--195.110.156.38 13:20, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Archiving

I archived the material you wanted removed for you. To archive, in case you ever want to create a second archive (I have two myself; the first got full]] just create somthing that says ] on the top of your page, then click the red link, and put the old material in there. Thanatosimii 21:03, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Re:Ancient Egypt and Race

It's already on my watchlist, but I'm a little busy right now, so I can't really help out for about a week. — ዮም | (Yom) | Talk • contribs • Ethiopia 02:40, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

^Ok - Taharqa

• Misplaced Pages:Third opinion might help.--Urthogie 02:47, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

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Sphinx

Taharqa, look at this information about the testimony of D. Vivant Denon on the Sphinx. Can you put it in good english and bring it to the article. Let go off the letter to the editor. Somebody removed it again. Thank you for the link you provided me. I am going to look into it. "Le Témoignage de D. Vivant Denon à propos du Sphinx de Guizeh.

UN CÉLÈBRE DESSINATEUR FRANÇAIS, MEMBRE DE L’EXPÉDITION D’EGYPTE DE BONAPARTE, NOUS LÈGUE SES IMPRESSIONS SUR LE SPHINX DE GUIZEH.

L’Egyptologie doit au français Dominique Vivant Denon, un formidable dessin du Sphinx de Guizeh intitulé : "Le Sphinx près des Pyramides".

D. VIVANT DENON (1747 - 1825) Toile de Pierre-Paul Prud’hon

1 -Un artiste français renommé pour son talent :

Dessinateur, graveur et artiste de talent, Dominique Vivant DENON était aussi très apprécié en France pour son érudition. C’est donc en raison de toutes ces qualités artistiques, que Napoléon Bonaparte fit appel à lui dans le cadre de son expédition en Égypte (1798-1799).

Sa mission fut de recueillir par le biais de nombreux croquis et dessins, tout le patrimoine (faune, flore, objets, stèles, statuts, monuments, barques, etc...) de l’Egypte ancienne afin de mieux faire connaître cette civilisation dans l’hexagone. La photographie n’existant pas à l’époque, c’est dire le caractère précieux des dessins de V. Denon.

Pour ses bons et loyaux services, il devint officiellement membre de "l’Institut d’Égypte" créé par BONAPARTE et fut même nommé directeur du Musée du Louvre dont l’une des entrées porte encore aujourd’hui son nom.

2- Un témoignage précieux pour l’histoire africaine :

Naturellement, Denon ne pouvait manquer l’occasion de dessiner le célèbre Sphinx de Guizeh, dans le cadre de l’expédition de Bonaparte. Son dessin du visage du Sphinx, il l’a lui-meme commenté. Voici textuellement ses propos :

"Je n’eus que le temps d’observer le Sphinx qui mérite d’être dessiné avec le soin le plus scrupuleux, et qui ne l’a jamais été de cette manière. Quoique ses proportions soient colossales, les contours qui en sont conservés sont aussi souples que purs : l’expression de la tête est douce, grâcieuse et tranquille ; le caractère en est africain : mais la bouche, dont les lèvres sont épaisses, a une mollesse dans le mouvement et une finesse d’exécution vraiment admirables ; c’est de la chair et de la vie."

DESSIN DU SPHINX REALISE PAR D. VIVANT DENON Plus loin commentant l’art égyptien, il écrit :

"Quant au caractère de leur figure humaine, n’empruntant rien des autres nations, ils ont copié leur propre nature, qui était plus gracieuse que belle. ... en tout, le caractère africain, dont le Nègre est la charge, et peut-être le principe".

Références bibliographiques:

Vivant DENON, Voyage dans la Basse et le Haute Égypte pendant les campagnes du Général BONAPARTE, Paris, 1ere édition Didot l’Aîné, 1802 ; réédition, Pygmalion/Gérard Watelet, 1990, p. 109." Lusala lu ne Nkuka Luka--195.110.156.38 16:53, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

dangerous edit

hi, bruh. thnx for keepin an eye on the Mali Empire page. I think I'm gonna request protection on it. what was the dangerous edit rv, by the way? Scott Free 14:05, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

3rr

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