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| This is a new article. Much work needs to be done. A lot can be written about it.] 20:10, 4 May 2007 (UTC) | This is a new article. Much work needs to be done. A lot can be written about it.] 20:10, 4 May 2007 (UTC) | ||
| ⚫ | The article needs a lot of work - the history section appears not to have been read before posting as it is ungrammatical and doesn't make sense - also, are these different private organizations? What about the Mercury Seven Foundation and the Astronaut Scholarship Foundation? The relationship to Space Camp? Other than Grissom's spacesuit, what is in there? The details about admission fees don't belong here either. Some research needs to be done beyond just their brochure - maybe there were news articles at the time of its creation? ANyway - if there should be an article on this, it should be more comprehensive and comprehensible. <strong>] </strong>|<small>]</small> 23:16, 19 May 2007 (UTC) | ||
| ⚫ | :As near as I can figure, Mercury Seven Foundation and the Astronaut Scholarship Foundation were created by the Mercury Seven and were instrumental in the creation of the HoF. However, the Hall of Fame was owned by the US Space Camp Foundation until 2002 when they were sold to ] in order to pay debts caused by the Foundations bankruptcy. --] <sup>]</sup> 04:41, 28 May 2007 (UTC) | ||
| == Recommend rename to U.S. Astronaut Hall of Fame == | == Recommend rename to U.S. Astronaut Hall of Fame == | ||
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| :Actually it's not at all surprising that Glenn was inducted before Armstrong - Glenn's orbit was miraculous back in the early 60s, making his a household name and a major reason he was elected to the Senate. I wasn't quibbling with the fact, I just think it is coming in out of left field without any verifiable reason. Your statement here appears to be OR, but if there's something to back it up it would be interesting to include. I don't think this is a big deal either way, but I actually don't think saying he was a Senator at the time of induction is relevant unless you can spell out why you're noting it. By the way, a list with identifying information and dates of induction - at least for the first 10 or 15 inductees - might be a nice addition to this article. <strong>] </strong>|<small>]</small> 16:55, 13 May 2007 (UTC) | :Actually it's not at all surprising that Glenn was inducted before Armstrong - Glenn's orbit was miraculous back in the early 60s, making his a household name and a major reason he was elected to the Senate. I wasn't quibbling with the fact, I just think it is coming in out of left field without any verifiable reason. Your statement here appears to be OR, but if there's something to back it up it would be interesting to include. I don't think this is a big deal either way, but I actually don't think saying he was a Senator at the time of induction is relevant unless you can spell out why you're noting it. By the way, a list with identifying information and dates of induction - at least for the first 10 or 15 inductees - might be a nice addition to this article. <strong>] </strong>|<small>]</small> 16:55, 13 May 2007 (UTC) | ||
| ::The original seven astronauts were also the charter members of the Hall of Fame. It would seem reasonable to have included Armstrong and his Apollo 11 crewmates in the inaugural class, however the Mercury Seven were such legends in their day (as documented in ]) that they will forever be at the top of the US astronaut pecking order. In other developments, I have added some details about the early inductions (I am not identified because I goofed and forgot to sign in) and am working on compiling complete list.] 08:34, 26 May 2007 (UTC) | ::The original seven astronauts were also the charter members of the Hall of Fame. It would seem reasonable to have included Armstrong and his Apollo 11 crewmates in the inaugural class, however the Mercury Seven were such legends in their day (as documented in ]) that they will forever be at the top of the US astronaut pecking order. In other developments, I have added some details about the early inductions (I am not identified because I goofed and forgot to sign in) and am working on compiling complete list.] 08:34, 26 May 2007 (UTC) | ||
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| ⚫ | The article needs a lot of work - the history section appears not to have been read before posting as it is ungrammatical and doesn't make sense - also, are these different private organizations? What about the Mercury Seven Foundation and the Astronaut Scholarship Foundation? The relationship to Space Camp? Other than Grissom's spacesuit, what is in there? The details about admission fees don't belong here either. Some research needs to be done beyond just their brochure - maybe there were news articles at the time of its creation? ANyway - if there should be an article on this, it should be more comprehensive and comprehensible. <strong>] </strong>|<small>]</small> 23:16, 19 May 2007 (UTC) | ||
| ⚫ | :As near as I can figure, Mercury Seven Foundation and the Astronaut Scholarship Foundation were created by the Mercury Seven and were instrumental in the creation of the HoF. However, the Hall of Fame was owned by the US Space Camp Foundation until 2002 when they were sold to ] in order to pay debts caused by the Foundations bankruptcy. --] <sup>]</sup> 04:41, 28 May 2007 (UTC) | ||
Revision as of 20:21, 28 May 2007
This is a new article. Much work needs to be done. A lot can be written about it.Feddhicks 20:10, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
The article needs a lot of work - the history section appears not to have been read before posting as it is ungrammatical and doesn't make sense - also, are these different private organizations? What about the Mercury Seven Foundation and the Astronaut Scholarship Foundation? The relationship to Space Camp? Other than Grissom's spacesuit, what is in there? The details about admission fees don't belong here either. Some research needs to be done beyond just their brochure - maybe there were news articles at the time of its creation? ANyway - if there should be an article on this, it should be more comprehensive and comprehensible. Tvoz |talk 23:16, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
- As near as I can figure, Mercury Seven Foundation and the Astronaut Scholarship Foundation were created by the Mercury Seven and were instrumental in the creation of the HoF. However, the Hall of Fame was owned by the US Space Camp Foundation until 2002 when they were sold to Delaware North Companies in order to pay debts caused by the Foundations bankruptcy. --Bobblehead 04:41, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Recommend rename to U.S. Astronaut Hall of Fame
I created U.S. Astronaut Hall of Fame as a redirect to here. I recommend swapping them. Later, as entries are created for Cosmonaut Hall of Fame and various country's own astronaut halls of fame, Astronaut Hall of Fame can change from a redirect to a disambiguation page. I am also creating a category for U.S. Astronaut Hall of Fame to hold all of its members. Davidwr 21:50, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
The KSC website calls the place Astronaut Hall of Fame, not U.S. Astronaut Hall of Fame. Any proof of the correct name?Feddhicks 20:19, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Need help filling in the Inductees category
I need some help tagging all the Hall of Famers with the new category.
Please go through the list of Hall of Famers and add a link like the following to their category list:
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I think the LASTNAME,FIRSTNAME is just for alphabetizing.
After you save the change, scroll to the bottom of the astronaut's wiki entry and click on U.S. Astronaut Hall of Fame Inductees and make sure he shows up properly.
The master list is here. I've already done the 3 new guys. I'll start with Z and go backwards. Davidwr 22:46, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
- Done. It needs to be updated at least annually. Davidwr 06:02, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
John Glenn clarification
An editor took out the reference of John Glenn. I put it back because he was Senator in 1990 when he was inducted. There is no indication whether this influenced or did not influence the choice. However, he was inducted even before first man on the moon Neil Armstrong (who is not a Senator) was inducted. Feddhicks 16:30, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
- Actually it's not at all surprising that Glenn was inducted before Armstrong - Glenn's orbit was miraculous back in the early 60s, making his a household name and a major reason he was elected to the Senate. I wasn't quibbling with the fact, I just think it is coming in out of left field without any verifiable reason. Your statement here appears to be OR, but if there's something to back it up it would be interesting to include. I don't think this is a big deal either way, but I actually don't think saying he was a Senator at the time of induction is relevant unless you can spell out why you're noting it. By the way, a list with identifying information and dates of induction - at least for the first 10 or 15 inductees - might be a nice addition to this article. Tvoz |talk 16:55, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
- The original seven astronauts were also the charter members of the Hall of Fame. It would seem reasonable to have included Armstrong and his Apollo 11 crewmates in the inaugural class, however the Mercury Seven were such legends in their day (as documented in The Right Stuff) that they will forever be at the top of the US astronaut pecking order. In other developments, I have added some details about the early inductions (I am not identified because I goofed and forgot to sign in) and am working on compiling complete list.Clubiguana 08:34, 26 May 2007 (UTC)