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=="Vandalism"== ==Request Unblock==
Please don't label good faith edits as "vandalism". See ]. -] · ] · 07:15, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


Here is a copy of the e-mail I sent last night to ]
A cut and paste is a revert, ] 19:34, 23 May 2007 (UTC)


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==Welcome!==
* Block ID: 522743
* IP address: 71.33.208.250
* Blocking admin: El C
* Block reason: Abusing ]: no comment
* Your account name (if you have one): Pfagerburg
* An explanation of why your block is unfair:


Jeff's response to my comments only proved the point; anyone who disagrees with him is automatically a disruptive troll.
Hello, and ] to Misplaced Pages from ]! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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The reason given by the Admin, "Multiple Accounts," links to a page on Sockpuppetry. I am not a sockpuppet of anyone, and did not see any requests for Checkuser to establish sockpuppetry.
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I post from my DSL connection at home, which rotates IP addresses from time to time, so perhaps this is part of the cause for confusion. I always edit under my user name, and only from this one account that I have, so the label of "sockpuppet" is inappropriate.
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Did you read the edits that Jeff scrubbed from his user page? Please point out the problems, as I thought that, given the circumstances, it was quite polite and well thought-out. I *would* like to see him contribute to the Cherokee articles. I *would not* like to see him trashing the pages of various people and groups he does not like, particularly, in the case of Eric Schmidt, when his "inside information" crosses the line into outright libel.
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I hope you enjoy editing here and becoming a ]! Please ] on talk pages using four tildes (~&#126;~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out ], ask me on my ], or place <code>{&#123;helpme}}</code> on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome, ] 19:34, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Please do explain; I'm willing to have a dialogue with you over this issue, and find a way that we can resolve the problem. If mediation or arbitration is required/requested, whether by you or by Mr. Merkey, I'm willing to enter those processes as well.
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The entry on Jeff's talk page which is the apparent reason for my blocking is:
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I'd also like to point out that Jeff's revert comment in the history includes the statement "This account was warned already" which is, to the best of my knowledge, untrue. How and when was I warned?

Have a look at my contributions, ], and you can see that I made all of '''two''' comments about Jeff's activities on WP, substantially the same content, one on the Community Sanction Noticeboard, and then later on his talk page after he was re-banned. My other contributions relating to him have been to his bio or the discussion, and have been thoroughly vetted by several other editors, including Jimbo Wales himself - check the diffs. And, I have an older (and much smaller) set of contributions to some technology articles that interested me.

I do not understand how 2 comments, one pre-Jeff-ban, and one post-Jeff-ban, can be considered "disruptive trolling," especially since I '''do''' support his contributions to the Cherokee articles, if he can just get along with others instead of immediately launching an attack on anyone who disagrees with him.

There are plenty more things I'd '''like''' to say about this whole situation, but I think it's best to end my participation in it. Here's my proposal to have editting '''privileges''' (not rights) restored: I will not make '''any''' edits to ] or ]. Any other edits on other articles will of course adhere to relevant policies regarding verification, reliable sources, and so on.

Shall we discuss it? ] 18:53, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

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Request Unblock

Here is a copy of the e-mail I sent last night to User:El C


  • Block ID: 522743
  • IP address: 71.33.208.250
  • Blocking admin: El C
  • Block reason: Abusing multiple accounts: no comment
  • Your account name (if you have one): Pfagerburg
  • An explanation of why your block is unfair:

Jeff's response to my comments only proved the point; anyone who disagrees with him is automatically a disruptive troll.

The reason given by the Admin, "Multiple Accounts," links to a page on Sockpuppetry. I am not a sockpuppet of anyone, and did not see any requests for Checkuser to establish sockpuppetry.

I post from my DSL connection at home, which rotates IP addresses from time to time, so perhaps this is part of the cause for confusion. I always edit under my user name, and only from this one account that I have, so the label of "sockpuppet" is inappropriate.

Did you read the edits that Jeff scrubbed from his user page? Please point out the problems, as I thought that, given the circumstances, it was quite polite and well thought-out. I *would* like to see him contribute to the Cherokee articles. I *would not* like to see him trashing the pages of various people and groups he does not like, particularly, in the case of Eric Schmidt, when his "inside information" crosses the line into outright libel.

Please do explain; I'm willing to have a dialogue with you over this issue, and find a way that we can resolve the problem. If mediation or arbitration is required/requested, whether by you or by Mr. Merkey, I'm willing to enter those processes as well.



The entry on Jeff's talk page which is the apparent reason for my blocking is: ]

I'd also like to point out that Jeff's revert comment in the history includes the statement "This account was warned already" which is, to the best of my knowledge, untrue. How and when was I warned?

Have a look at my contributions, ], and you can see that I made all of two comments about Jeff's activities on WP, substantially the same content, one on the Community Sanction Noticeboard, and then later on his talk page after he was re-banned. My other contributions relating to him have been to his bio or the discussion, and have been thoroughly vetted by several other editors, including Jimbo Wales himself - check the diffs. And, I have an older (and much smaller) set of contributions to some technology articles that interested me.

I do not understand how 2 comments, one pre-Jeff-ban, and one post-Jeff-ban, can be considered "disruptive trolling," especially since I do support his contributions to the Cherokee articles, if he can just get along with others instead of immediately launching an attack on anyone who disagrees with him.

There are plenty more things I'd like to say about this whole situation, but I think it's best to end my participation in it. Here's my proposal to have editting privileges (not rights) restored: I will not make any edits to User:Jeffrey_Vernon_Merkey or User_talk:Jeffrey_Vernon_Merkey. Any other edits on other articles will of course adhere to relevant policies regarding verification, reliable sources, and so on.

Shall we discuss it? Pfagerburg 18:53, 30 May 2007 (UTC)