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	:I am not an ace in Portugese but I think you suggested adding a picture of Serra Nevada because some people imagine that there is no snow in Brazil, right? -] 02:06, 23 June 2007 (UTC)		:I am not an ace in Portugese but I think you suggested adding a picture of Serra Nevada because some people imagine that there is no snow in Brazil, right? -] 02:06, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

			== Manipulation of this article ==

			The article ] is being manipulated by user ]. I think he has no rights to do that.

			The user does not accept other users' contribuitions, erasing them with no justifications.

			This user has been trying to sell a wrong image of Brazil. He admited in my talk page his obsession with ] and is trying to show the image in Misplaced Pages that Brazil is a copy of Europe.

			The user posts various pictures of blond Brazilian models of ] descent to represent the Brazilian people. When I post pictures of famous ], such as ], he erases them with no justification. Blacks in Brazil largely outnumber Blonds, and everybody knows that. So why does he try to sell a fake image of a surreal ''Blond Brazil''??

			User ] also erased facts about how bad the education system in Brazil is. He was trying to sell the image that Brazil has a perfect education.

			Also, he seems to hate the fact that Brazil is a ] country and erased the pictures of world-famous beaches of Rio de Janeiro and posted in its place a picture of a rare scene of snow in a far away location in Southern Brazil.

			I do not know what are his intentions, if they are good or bad. But it semms that ] is trying to sell the image that Brazil is a new Germany, full of blonds in a cold developed country. Brazil is not like that.

			Finally, he insists to post a table with many problems. The table cites the city of ] and other twons more than two times. Many towns are not even listed there either. Moreover, there are pictures of cities above this table, making it impossible to read it. I erased this horrible table, but ] insists to post it again, saying that he ''worked hard for it''. We do not care if he worked hard for it. The table is all-wrong and cannot stay there.

			] should be adviced by some administrators that he cannot manipulate the ] article this way. Everybody here has the right to make new contributions. He is hindering that.

			His contributions are not necessary here. He cannot even speak or write in ]. All he is doing is posting unnecessary pictures and erasing other users' contributions.

			I do not know if the ] or something, but we cannot agree with that.

			Please, administrator, do something. ] 14:43, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

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I have taken the liberty of archiving the previous talk page because it got too large and confusing. Also, there haven’t been active discussions for over three weeks.

Anyone wishing to resume old debates feel free to continue here.

Sparks1979 23:55, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

History section

I feel we should reorganize the History section according to the classic division Brazilian History books use. Therefore, the section should have only three subsections: the Colonial phase, the Empire of Brazil period, and the Republican era.

I believe the current division seems a bit arbitrary. It looks clustered in an excessive number of subsections.

Is anyone against this change?

Sparks1979 00:05, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Instance of unintelligible wording

"According to Fundação Getulio Vargas, in June 2006 the rate of poverty based into lacework was of 18.57% of the population..." What does "based into lacework" mean? It seems to me that this is a typo or mistranslation. -Larry Siegel

I've changed it into 'labour income', which is what the report says. Cheers for noticing that! English rosy 00:42, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Fourth GA review

I have placed the review on hold. The content of the article is very good but it still has a lack of inline citations. Please provide citations for the following:

"When slavery was finally abolished, a large influx of European immigrants took place."

~~"the empire fell because the dominant classes no longer needed it to protect their interests."~~

Added source. Felipe C.S 01:36, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

~~"Juscelino Kubitschek's office years (1956-1961) were marked by the political campaign motto of plunging "fifty years of development in five".~~

Added source. Carlosguitar 03:16, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

"Brazil’s most severe problem today is arguably its highly unequal distribution of wealth and income"
"In the late 1990s, more than one out of four Brazilians continued to survive on less than one dollar a day."
"These socio-economic contradictions helped elect Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva in 2002"
"~~Democracy was re-established in Brazil when the current Federal Constitution was promulgated.~~ The President, Governors and Mayors are elected by direct vote in the Executive. Likewise, the Legislative members are also elected by direct vote. No judicial authorities are elected. Judges are appointed after passing rigorous entry exams."

Added source. Carlosguitar 02:18, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

"The Brazilian states enjoy a significant autonomy of government, law making, public security and taxation."
"The North constitutes 45.27% of the surface of Brazil and it is the region with the lowest number of inhabitants."

~~"It is also the most important area for agriculture in the country."~~

Reworded with source. Carlosguitar 08:57, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

"Some geographers have called this an "archipelago" of cities"
"deep-seated social and economic problems have kept it from realizing its goal of becoming a truly global leader."
"governments sought to expand Brazil's influence in the world by pursuing a state-led industrial policy and an independent foreign policy."
"Temperatures in the cities of ~~São Paulo~~, Belo Horizonte, and Brasília are moderate (usually between 15 °C and 30 °C"

Added source. Felipe C.S 20:02, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

"~~Porto Alegre~~ and Curitiba have a subtropical climate similar to that in parts of the United States and Europe, and temperatures can fall under zero degrees Celsius in winter."

Added source. Felipe C.S 20:02, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

~~"Brazil's diverse industries range from automobiles, steel and petrochemicals to computers, aircraft, and consumer goods and amount to one-third of the GDP."~~

Added source. Felipe C.S 04:54, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

~~"both Brazilian and multinational corporations have invested heavily in new equipment and technology, a large proportion of which has been purchased from American enterprises."~~

Added source. Felipe C.S 05:09, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

~~"Brazil has been expanding its influence in global economic negotiations, such as the currently debated Doha Round."~~

Added source. Felipe C.S 05:09, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

"Amerindians, Brazil's indigenous population, came from human groups that migrated from Siberia across the Bering Strait around 9000 BC."
"In the first two centuries of colonization, 100,000 Portuguese arrived in Brazil"
"In the eighteenth century, 600,000 Portuguese arrived"
"The original Amerindian population of Brazil (between three and five million)"
"At first many came from Guinea, although by the end of the eighteenth century many had been taken from Angola and Mozambique (or, in Bahia, from Nigeria)."
"By the time of the end of the slave trade in 1850, around three to five million slaves had been brought to Brazil – 37% of all slave traffic between Africa and the Americas."
"These Arab immigrants were -and stFill are- wrongly called "Turks" by many Brazilians"
"The population of the southern states is mainly of European descent, while the majority of the inhabitants of the north and northeast are of multiracial ancestry"
"the "language of Camões", who lived in the fifteenth century, sounded closer to modern Brazilian Portuguese, than to the language spoken in Portugal today, and that his work is poetically more perfect when read the Brazilian way"
"numbers of Pentecostal and Neopentecostal adherents have increased significantly."
"They are widely regarded as the most talented national team"
"Sports created in Brazil:"

Reworded. Carlosguitar 06:09, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Also, these need fixing:

"In September 1992, the National Congress has voted for Collor's impeachment"
"In 2000, Cardoso has demanded the disclosure"
"The contry is a significant political and economical power"
"And the Brazilian Army, the land arm of the Brazilian Military."

Let me know when these are fixed. There may be other things to fix afterwards. Epbr123 19:09, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

There are too many references cited throughout the article, many of which are unreliable as sources of information (they either don't rely on official statistics, or are not as rigourous as an encyclopedic or academic article should be). Some major cleanup must be performed in those references before this can be considered a "good article" candidate. English rosy 04:37, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Could you state which references are unreliable, please? Epbr123 09:32, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

I would like to suggest this page http://www.fraudes.org/showpage1.asp?pg=175 as reference about corruption in Brazil. This is a well respected site recommended among the others byt UNODC and several other official organizations and reports some useful information and statistics about corruption in Brazil. Review it and if useful please include as a note or reference.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.204.116.116 (talk)

question

What two native tribes still live in the forest of Brazil? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 137.186.172.24 (talk)

Snow in Brazil

eu acho que seria legal colocar fotos da serra gaúcha nevada pois poucas pessoas imaginam que no brasil neva. obrigada pôr favor coloqüem—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.14.107.250 (talk)

I am not an ace in Portugese but I think you suggested adding a picture of Serra Nevada because some people imagine that there is no snow in Brazil, right? -凶 02:06, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Manipulation of this article

The article Brazil is being manipulated by user João Felipe C.S. I think he has no rights to do that.

The user does not accept other users' contribuitions, erasing them with no justifications.

This user has been trying to sell a wrong image of Brazil. He admited in my talk page his obsession with Europe and is trying to show the image in Misplaced Pages that Brazil is a copy of Europe.

The user posts various pictures of blond Brazilian models of German descent to represent the Brazilian people. When I post pictures of famous Black Brazilians, such as Pelé, he erases them with no justification. Blacks in Brazil largely outnumber Blonds, and everybody knows that. So why does he try to sell a fake image of a surreal Blond Brazil??

User João Felipe C.S also erased facts about how bad the education system in Brazil is. He was trying to sell the image that Brazil has a perfect education.

Also, he seems to hate the fact that Brazil is a tropical country and erased the pictures of world-famous beaches of Rio de Janeiro and posted in its place a picture of a rare scene of snow in a far away location in Southern Brazil.

I do not know what are his intentions, if they are good or bad. But it semms that João Felipe C.S is trying to sell the image that Brazil is a new Germany, full of blonds in a cold developed country. Brazil is not like that.

Finally, he insists to post a table with many problems. The table cites the city of Recife and other twons more than two times. Many towns are not even listed there either. Moreover, there are pictures of cities above this table, making it impossible to read it. I erased this horrible table, but João Felipe C.S insists to post it again, saying that he worked hard for it. We do not care if he worked hard for it. The table is all-wrong and cannot stay there.

João Felipe C.S should be adviced by some administrators that he cannot manipulate the Brazil article this way. Everybody here has the right to make new contributions. He is hindering that.

His contributions are not necessary here. He cannot even speak or write in English. All he is doing is posting unnecessary pictures and erasing other users' contributions.

I do not know if the racist or something, but we cannot agree with that.

Please, administrator, do something. Opinoso 14:43, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

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