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I removed the book cover

I have removed the image of The Audacity of Hope book cover from this article; the only mention is "The first, The Audacity of Hope, was published in October 2006. An Italian translation was published in April 2007, and a Spanish translation will be published in June 2007. It has remained on the New York Times Best Seller list for the 30 weeks since publication." While it identifies the book, it adds no significant content to the article that words could not alone. Note that my statements are not impugning the article's editors, but I strongly feel that the use of the image is not a fair use but is instead simple copyright infringement. --Iamunknown 07:18, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

It's also clear to me that this book cover, while perhaps nice to have here, does not meet agreed standards for use of non-free images on Misplaced Pages. Policing fair use is a thankless, but necessary job, and I think Iamunknown's contribution deserves (at minimum) some kind of counterpoint. I've also requested comment at Misplaced Pages:Fair use review. --HailFire 19:41, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

My counter-point was very simple, stated in the edit summary: I agree with User:Tvoz's rationale as provided on the image's page. Where is the line drawn with regard to authors? Italiavivi 21:36, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

In the real world this would certainly be accepted as fair use. I think the Misplaced Pages policy is out of control and excessively restrictive, which is a frequent problem here (e.g., the you tube hysteria of some months ago). This is a good example of an the appropriate use of an image to illustrate a section - it is not gratuitous. Common sense and the real world ought to hold some sway in the formulation of Misplaced Pages policy. Tvoz |talk 00:16, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Take this up on the policy talkpage, then. Until the policy is changed, the image cannot be used in this way. nadav (talk) 12:57, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Text added giving critical commentary and political significance. WP:FUR now seem happy. Jheald 23:28, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Trying this edit, quoting critical commentaries by notable reviewers. I think the text now has the right weight and puts both works in an informative biographical context. Perhaps even the non-free image can now be justified. Thanks Iamunknown for flagging the issue, to the editors at Misplaced Pages:Fair use review for your comments, and to all who pitched in with rewrite ideas. --HailFire 21:20, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Thats a great copyedit and content addition, HailFire. Thanks for your work.  :) --Iamunknown 02:46, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree, nice work. Italiavivi 02:49, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Barack Obama Navigation box

Here's a whack at the navigation box for Barack Obama related articles. Feel free to add/remove articles from the template as you see fit. --Bobblehead 18:38, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Is this navigator based on another template located elsewhere? I'd like to compare it with other candidates' navigators. Italiavivi 20:56, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

It's not based on anyone person's navigator. I was editing on Jericho related articles this morning when MPS added the see also, so I just did a gut and stuff on {{jerichonav}}.--Bobblehead 21:04, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm. I kind of like {{Bill Clinton}}, which is based on {{navbox generic}}. It's a lot sleeker than what I flung together. --Bobblehead 21:12, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Nice. Italiavivi 22:34, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Went ahead and added the nav box to the articles for Michelle Obama, his books, political views, and 2008 campaign article. --Bobblehead 23:51, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Ooh = I missed this. Good job. Tvoz |talk 23:56, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

I suggest we not include articles that aren't specifically about Obama (the bottom 2 sections).--Pharos 02:57, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Pharos... while it's nice to have ALL that info we might want to split it in two boxes... senate committees and party of a senator could be included in a separate 'Senator Navbox' and the current People/Books/Articles related to a politician could be thoe other one. My IMHO, of course. MPS 14:26, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Intro, 2004 Illinois Senate race

The opening says (or seems to imply that) a "boost" from the 2004 convention speech allowed him to win the Senate election that fall. This gives a bit of a misleading impression because Obama was a lock to win after Ryan dropped out and Keyes came in. While the speech only could have helped, it was not the reason he won. I propose that the phrase "boosted by increased national standing" be reworded and maybe put in the next sentence.--Gloriamarie 23:20, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Infobox/religion

"United Church of Christ" is not Obama's religion. He is Christian. United Church of Christ is his denomination. How do we fix this? — goethean ॐ 14:23, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Excellent point, I just changed it to Christian (United Church of Christ). Does that work for you? --Bobblehead 14:31, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Yup, thanks. — goethean ॐ 22:31, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Archive 9

Who did the last archive? What is the point in archiving just one line of text? JayKeaton 06:34, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

It was the auto-archiver. Archive 8 was full, so when Miszabot archived that section it moved it to archive 9. Never fear, though, the archive will start to fill up shortly. --Bobblehead 06:42, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Rezko house

The sentence about the Rezko house is moved (text unchanged) to the body of the article. This is to avoid the appearance of trying to hide information as the original information was in tiny print hidden in the footnotes.

Nothing bad is said about Senator Obama. In fact, mention of it clears him. Hiding it makes it look like campaign supporters are trying to hide information. It is a fact that Senator Obama has the most internet supporters that any candidate of either party. It is likely that, among the hundreds of thousands of his internet supporters, that at least 1 or 2 of them use wikipedia and write for it.

This is different from the Muslim school controversy, which is a non-issue and is in fine print hidden away. Feddhicks 17:17, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

As you well know, this has already been debated, discussed and consensus reached. Tvoz |talk 18:04, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I looked at Archive 8. There was no censensus. Some people want a whole lot about the Rezko controversy. So putting everything in fine print and hiding it is the extremist viewpoint. The other extremist viewpoint is to say that Senator Obama is a crook. The neutral point of view is a neutral statement which is not hidden. Feddhicks 18:41, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Congressional box

This is an article about Senator Obama. Why is there a huge infobox at the end listing all of the US Senators?????

It just waste room. If one is really, really cynical, they might say that it is there to show that Senator Obama is just one of many, many Senators and try to imply that being a Senator is nothing. I think it just wastes room. Feddhicks 17:17, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Project policy. Tvoz |talk 18:11, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

#2 after Clinton

A sentence has been changed mentioning Senator Clinton. This article is about Senator Obama, not Senator Clinton. So a sentence has been changed like this (see article for exact text)..Obama placed second in the polls after Clinton.. Feddhicks 17:25, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

The mention of Clinton was totally appropriate here. Tvoz |talk 18:12, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Correction made in the beginning part

Senator Obama is THE leading candidate, not among the leading candidates. At least in fundraising. Give the man credit where credit is due. This is only fair, whether or not you like the man or not. Feddhicks 17:29, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I think we have the return of the sock here.Tvoz |talk 17:53, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Everyone who agrees with me is not a sock, everyone who disagrees with me is a sock???Feddhicks 18:37, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

There are certain aspects about your recent editing on this article that are similar to those of Dereks1x (talk · contribs). And then there is the whole trying to defend an obvious sock thing... But all in all, most of the edits, particularly the one about Rezko has been covered over and over again on this article and general consensus is that it is adequately covered. --Bobblehead 18:51, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

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