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My forced wikibreaks are being voluntarily extended as I've realised how many more fulfilling and productive activities can be completed in the same amount of time that can be spent here. I will still be logged in, and get your message whenever I next happen to click on a link to a WP page.

Misplaced Pages is a community effort: where relevant start discussions in a public namespace, i.e. on the talk page of the article in question, and notify me of them, that way others can give their input. If your comment is about a specific article I will likely reply on the talk page of that article.

• Archive 1 - July 2003 - June 2005
• Archive 2 - June 2005 - Present

Bristol pics

Congrats on getting the dissertation submitted. if you are going to look at the photos needed for Bristol - can you keep an eye on Grade I listed buildings in Bristol, Grade II* listed buildings in Bristol & Grade II listed buildings in Bristol & associated articles. I've added pictures where I have them or can get then from geograph, but some are not very good or haven't got pictures at all. Any help appreciated.— Rod 18:11, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Sure. I'll make a list tommorow, and see if I can start tackling them. I also hereby give my permission for the 500 pixel versions of any of the photos at Cotch.net to be relicensed for WP, and I may give full size versions depending on the particular shot. Joe D (t) 00:43, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Great thanks - I've just taken a look at Cotch.net & I'm impressed you have thousands. I looked at the Bristol Harbour photos to see if you have any of the underfall yard - the one I took was removed recently as it wasn't good enough - but there are so many I couldn't find any, is it searchable at all?.— Rod 07:38, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Nightingale Valley

Isn't NV 'dry' in the technical sense used by geographers? (The description is not original with me). And it does go nearly all the way back to the gates of Ashton Court! (Or did, when I last lived just over the bridge :-)) But I've not changed it (Though I have added a redlink to Stokeleigh Camp, and a comment on the talk page) Bob aka Linuxlad 08:44, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

northdorset.net reversion

New to this, but explain why you reverted my link to NDN (which is non-profit and has a clear 'in praise of local' positioning), yet don't seem to have any problem with a link to Blackmore Vale Magazine (which *is* commercial and part of Trinity Mirror).

Gb-slade 23:23, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Reversions

Please see my comments on the North Dorset Talk page.

Also interested in the inference that you see the BVM site as 'encyclopaedic'? The only non-advertising content there is news.

Not trying to be controversial just trying to understand the ethos.

Gb-slade 13:37, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

UK infobox maps

May I direct you to my post at the bottom of Template_talk:Infobox_UK_place? Hope it helps, Jhamez84 22:30, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Sheffield

Hello, thanks for helping out with Sheffield. I also have recently become concerned that if it doesn't get an update/cleanup it will become a FARC. I note that in the to-do list that you created you ask "Does demographics really belong under geography?" I can't remember much about my geography lessons at school but I do remember my teacher writing in large letters on the blckboard "Geography is about people and places". In that vein, I note that Category:Demography is a subcategory of Category:Human geography. So yes, I think demographics do belong in the geography section. —Jeremy (talk) 23:35, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Soton (also Pompey) merges

Yes you are too late, I think I had just finished the Southampton area/schools and Portsmouth area/schools that Notability Crusader (contributions) and 82.26.107.104 (contributions), who are either one and the same or share a common purpose, had been engaged in a guerrilla action against. I was about to start removing the tags and pointing to the talk page for my rational. As a matter of interest did you look here and also here? -- Drappel 22:29, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Another one for your collection

What? The statements...

...I made were based entirely on fact. Richard Dawkins is a noted anti-religious extremist. That is inarguable fact.--Vox Humana 8' 16:36, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

That too is inarguable fact.--Vox Humana 8' 16:49, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Bristol Urban Area

I'm asking you to remain WP:CIVIL in your edits on wikipedia. Please, refrain from making personl attacks such as this one. L.J.Skinner 03:44, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Dearne Valley Urban Area

again, I'm asking you to be WP:CIVIL. This edit summary is inflammatory. DO NOT tell editors that they haven't read the page simply because you disagree. I shall put this up for requested moves and RfC, and report your behaviour if this incivility towards me continues. L.J.Skinner 13:04, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Warrington

Hi! I've noticed you've been active doing some good editing of Warrington. In my own assessment, I recommended splitting the article to distinguish between the twon (which is one of many places within the borough), and the borough itself. Can I ask whether you think this would perhaps help matters a little in some of the issues you have highlighted, and, if so, whether you would be intrested in working our with me how this could be done? Best wishes.  DDStretch  (talk) 12:19, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Tinsley Viaduct

Hi there Steinsky. As you have commented on the above article's disscussion page, I'd like to invite you to a poll on the inclusion or not of the coordinates box, here. L.J.Skinner 20:33, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Bexhill-on-sea

Hi Steinsky. I noticed you reverted the edits to Bexhill-on-Sea by 81.131.7.129 just now. I actually checked his/her edits earlier today by going to the cited source, and the change to 20th May was actually correct - the source needs a careful look as you have to read through the first section to find out when the tornado actually struck. Are you happy to undo your reversion? Cheers -- Euchiasmus 21:20, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

List of British Flags

I cannot be accused of not participating in discussions when an issue has clearly been discussed to death, with users like vintagekits and padraig3uk continuing a campaign to dig up an issue across multiple pages , for which consensus was reached approximately 2 years ago. If you are going to protect an article please could you protect the more stable version prior to the disruptive campaign from these 2 users. Jonto 23:08, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Incorrect - see the talk page onthe Northern Ireland page to see what the consensus is!--Vintagekits 23:12, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

I will look into the matter in full tommorow evening. For now, the page stays locked, to give everyone time to calm down. Joe D (t) 23:14, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

yes please do, especially in the older archives, and also notice how most of the recent comments are from 2 users. The consensus is whatever the stable version of the Nothern Ireland] page was. Before the recent Irish nationalist campaign, the status quo was with the de facto flag display and described as "former official". Users Vintagekits and Padraig3uk and their pals from "wikiproject: Irish Republicanism" have now started a campaign to remove NI's flag throughout the entire site, claiming it to be historical despite present usage. Jonto 23:21, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

I am not going to refute what you say here because its all done elsewhere, needless to say 1. you are wrong and 2. those comments are a breach of WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA for which you have be warned for on several occasions!--Vintagekits 23:25, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

OK, thanks everyone, I will look at any relevant discussions you link to but you don't need to carry on arguing on my talk page. Joe D (t) 23:29, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Balearic Islands' article protection

Steinsky, I'm pretty in agreement with you protection of the article, but your last change "Reverting to the last stable version of the page until concensus for change is reached" is not really correct. If you take a look, the naming edits war began only since April 9 (see ]). Before that, and I'm talking for years, the names were the ones I have edited because of reversions (see all the edits previous to "13:15, 8 April 2007 Vuong Ngan Ha" ]. The names in catalan and spanish have been in this article since "edited by Montrealais (Talk | contribs) at 08:32, 19 August 2003" ].

I kindly ask you to undo your last edit for this reason. Thank you, --Maurice27 23:24, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi. I think the discussion in Talk:Balearic Islands is going nowhere, and getting out of proportion. Do you mind stepping in as an administrator into the discussion to help mediate? --the Dúnadan 19:52, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Hail Steinsky

Something inane to entice you to a release of endorphins. Enjoy!

Samsara (talk • contribs) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Samsara (talk • contribs) 11:59, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

edit summary not about you

The edit summary I used in the John Wayne article after your edit could be construed by some to mean you. It does not it means user Granville1. I just want to clarify it with you. I would edit the edit summary if I could. It could be taken 2 ways. Here it is to show you "rv user has had problems with this article in the past trying to push pov and uncited statments over and over (see article talk page) sockpuppet case now and reported also for personal attacks" which is in ref to another user not you. But since the edit is after yours I didn't want you to get the wrong idea its about you. Its not :-) Thanks for your time. --Xiahou 15:08, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Peterborough

This article was awarded GA status today prior to your edit. I strongly disagree with some of your very substantial changes, which have been made without any dialogue or consensus. You have also reverted some additional information I added to the references, etc. 81.77.72.72 20:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind remarks which I note you didn't leave after your first edit, but after you reverted my revert. 81.77.72.72 21:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Prod of article

Just a technical note: when adding the prod tag to an article, just use {{subst:prod|reason}}. Tizio 12:25, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

This one looked wrong: ; looking better at it, it was fine. Probably, the newline at the beginning and end of concern has confused the bot while it was trying to update WP:PRODSUM. I should fix that. Tizio 12:37, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

OS Map Site

I notice you've removed the OS map site link from some of the railway articles where I've added diagrams. While agreeing with you that more precision would be useful, I feel that this is more in the way of a reference to a book as an information source in an article, in the way that the title of a book would be given but not the page where a reference might be found. OS do not lead you to individual maps the way that, say, Sub Brit's disused station site allows you to access individual stations. I also feel that if your take data from a site to check information for diagrams the site should be credited in some way. Let me know what you think (by the way I think you've just removed yourself from the Category "Wikipedians who are not currently active", lol!) Britmax 11:05, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

OS Map Reply

Thank you for the helpful remarks about this subject on my talk page. I will look at them for the future. Britmax 12:43, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Winterbourne Down, Wiltshire

Thanks for fixing my edits. I'm still trying to pin down whether Winterbourne Down, Wiltshire actually exists, since I can't find any sources for it. Do you happen to know whether it exists, and if so where in Wiltshire? -- The Anome 08:13, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Mendip Hills (again)

Could I ask a favour if you have time. Mendip Hills is up as a FA candidate (again) at Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Mendip Hills & hasn't got enough support yet & is likely to run out of time soon. Could you take a look & add any comments. Thanks — Rod 08:43, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Birkenhead

I agree that the subsection headings within the Transport section of this article looked rather "OTT", as you put it, at the time. However, my intention was merely to help 'clean up' this article and to further expand its content, which I've not yet done. This was to be set out in the same format as Liverpool, which also includes single-paragraphs as subsections. Snowy 1973 13:13, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Staverton Village Info-box

I am rather disappointed in the changes you made to the info-box I created on the Staverton page. The standardised one that you replaced it with is not nearly as informative especially about the precise location of the village in the county of Northamptonshire. I also think that photographs look far better in the relavant text rather than stuck in a gallery with no context. stavros1 9/05/07

Staverton Village

I dont have a problem with the info boxes but you do? I found this type of info box used on many pages on Misplaced Pages and I am sorry that you find the one that I used offends your conformaty, but i still think the one I use is better. Also you peppering the West Runton page with Citations Needed, Have you thought about checking out the list of externall referances at the bottom of the page,Stavros1

Staverton Village

Your answer, that it does'nt conforming to the policies and guidelines may well be true but it is not set in stone, and as you rightly say these policies are only guidlines. I will be changing the box back to its original state on the Staverton and East Runton Page unless of course you can give me a better reson why I should Not RegardsStavros1

Middlewich GA review

Hi. I think the matters you raised in the Middlewich review have now been dealt with. Thanks. Epbr123 22:34, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

3RR

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a consensus among editors. Adambro 09:29, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Widnes subheadings

Thanks for your comments on Widnes. I had based the subheadings on those in the Runcorn article which had been rated a GA, although the assessor for that has subsequently commented that there were too many subheadings on that as well. I must say the ToC now looks much better. Regarding 'Education' being separate from 'Communal facilities', I suppose that is based on Misplaced Pages:WikiProject UK geography/How to write about settlements which does list them as separate subheadings under 'Present day' (and that is a heading I do not find helpful as everything apart from history is likely to be more or less 'present day'). I suppose that settlements with universities (which Widnes does not have) will be providing more than just communal facilities under the heading of Education. You might like to discuss this with members of Misplaced Pages:WikiProject UK geography. Best wishes. Peter I. Vardy 10:52, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Maps & Infoboxes.

Hi, I know you added latitude, longitude and map_type fields to {{Infobox Historic building}} & the vast majority of these in Bristol now have maps (largely due to the work of User:Guiltyspark, & you commented about petitioning for this in {{Infobox religious building}} but how about working your magic (or petitioning) for this functionality in {{Infobox GB school}}, {{Infobox Hospital}}, {{infobox Museum}} etc as we use several of each of these?— Rod 15:46, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Infobox religious building

Why have you removed the reference to {{coord}} from Template:Infobox religious building/doc? Andy Mabbett 09:22, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I've added latitude and longitude fields to the template (to add map capability), and these automatically add {{coord}}, and in a more user fieldly fashion. Thanks, Joe D (t) 09:26, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough. Can you give me an example of a page using the new format, please? (I'll see replies here). Andy Mabbett 09:36, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

St Mary Redcliffe. Joe D (t) 09:38, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, but that's not using coord, not emitting a Geo microformat, nor showing coordinates in either the infobox or title bar. I'm happy to try to help you fix that, but please revert your changes in the meantime. Andy Mabbett 09:41, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Ooops, missed a bit. It's fixed now. Joe D (t) 09:44, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

That's better, but please also display the coordinates in the infobox (that makes them part of the hCard, and allows tools Like Operator to label the Geo microformat with the name of the article). I'd also suggest adding the type:landmark attribute. Andy Mabbett 09:50, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

The same goes for schools (e.g. Monks Park Secondary School) and any other such infoboxes. Thank you. Andy Mabbett 10:15, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I can help you with the code to have these display inline, but my edits today are only for a previous request that was discussed first -- you may want to check on those templates' talk pages first that nobody objects to your requested additions. Joe D (t) 10:27, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

OK. Will do. Andy Mabbett 10:29, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Template:Infobox GB school

Hi, thanks for adding the map to this template, but could you also add it to the display on the template page so that you can see where it will appear on the displayed template.

Keith D 09:57, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Web

I love your website dude. (Cokes360 19:11, 21 May 2007 (UTC)) i live in dorset

Sheffield Town Hall

I see that Sheffield Town Hall has been reverted again, with no explanation other than the unhelpful edit summary "Undid revision by Steinsky Coordinates shambles". Andy Mabbett 15:23, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Evo wiki bug

Recently when i have been trying to go to EvoWiki a computer bug has been stopping me from getting into EvoWiki I think the problem is with evo wiki and not my computer because I’ve attempted to use other computers to try to get on EvoWiki and the same bug appeared on the other computers as well. The text that appears when the error happens looks like this

Database error A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: (SQL query hidden) from within function "MediaWikiBagOStuff::_doquery". MySQL returned error "1016: Can't open file: 'objectcache.MYI' (errno: 145) (localhost)".

Do you know how to fix it and if you don’t know how to fix it do you know someone else who can fix it?--Fang 23 18:32, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Evowiki is still broken, and I can't even post on it to tell anyone that it's broken... because it's broken. SQL query hidden and all that.Plunge 00:27, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Coordinates and microformats

Reverts to some of your edits are discussed here. Andy Mabbett 14:34, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Royal National Institute of Blind People

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Evolution FAC

Hi there, as this falls into your field of interest, I was wondering if you had any comments or suggestions. Any feedback would be appreciated at Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Evolution. Thanks. TimVickers 18:23, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

wikia foundation

I think we should join EvoWiki with the Wikia Foundation to increase EvoWiki’s notoriety and popularity because various wikis such as Uncyclopedia have become more known and more popular as a result of joining up with Wikia or a similar wiki farm.--Fang 23 03:13, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

UoB image

Hi Joe. Just came across this image of yours, which I'm afraid is mis-titled. That's not actually a view of BLADE but of the rear of the Queen's Building Library (Faculty of Engineering) and Hydrodynamics laboratories. The BLADE buildings are the new wing sections visible at the front of the Queen's Building (on University Walk). I'd edit the description myself but I thought you might want to re-upload it with a different filename. Best, --YFB ¿ 00:20, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

help please

I notice you may have knowledge/interest in the following; perhaps you can help out or point me to a discussion location. Currently, I find that the articles and categories involving 'environment of foo', 'geography of foo', natural history of foo' and 'geology of foo' may be confused. The current structure in some foo countries is

foo country => environment of foo => natural history of foo => geology

and

foo country => geography of foo => geology

For other countries it is just:

foo country => environment of foo => natural history of foo => geology

Many countries (and states of the US) lack several of these categories. I have questions on which category structure or another may be correct/most helpful. The main articles involved are unhelpful in giving this structure.

Also, in which categories should certain articles go. Examples: a prehistoric lake; a prehistoric flood; a prehistoric volcanic eruption.

I am trying to some of these categories to places where they are missing (such as US states) and running into some objections and counter proposals that would even reverse the current country-level category structure. Thanks Hmains 04:35, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Location maps

Would you consider dual-licensing your contributions to {{Location map}} and related templates under the cc-by 2.5 license so i could use them on the english wikinews? Happy editing. Bawolff 00:47, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Sharpness photo

You photograph seems to have been deleted on Commons because it had no licence. See commons:User_talk:Steinsky. William Avery 19:51, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Fair use image use

Per terms of our policy at Misplaced Pages:Non-free content criteria item #9, the use of copyrighted, fair use imagery is not permitted outside of the main article namespace. Thus, the use of such images on templates is strictly forbidden. The images Image:NTE icon.png, Image:EH icon.png, and Image:FC icon.png are all copyrighted images and thus may not be used on Template:EngPlacesKey. Please do not re-add them to the template, as you did here, as this violates our policy. If you have questions about this, I'd be happy to answer. Thanks, --Durin 15:11, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

your vandalism

As someone from Shaftesbury I am getting very annoyed at your continued breach of wikipedia rules and pathetic threats. I have reported you to a moderator. Grow up and read the rules before damaging pages.

I dont care if you have been on wikipedia longer, it does not mean the rules DONT apply.

You have been named as a party in an RFAR at Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration#Shaftesbury