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Revision as of 14:23, 21 June 2005

Hi MARMOT, and welcome to Misplaced Pages! Thanks for your contributions to the coolest online encyclopedia I know of =). I sure hope you stick around; we're always in need of more people to create new articles and improve the ones we already have. You'll probably find it easiest to start with a tutorial of how the wikipedia works, and you can test stuff for yourself in the sandbox. When you're contributing, you'll probably find the manual of style to be helpful, and you'll also want to remember a couple important guidelines. First, write from a neutral point of view, second, be bold in editing pages, and third, use wikiquette. Those are probably the most important ones, and you can take a look at some others at the policies and guidelines page. You might also be interested in how to write a great article and possibly adding some images to your articles.

Be sure to get involved in the community – you can contact me at my talk page if you have any questions, and you can check out the village pump, where lots of wikipedians hang out and discuss things. If you're looking for something to do, check out the community portal. And whenever you ask a question or post something on a talk page, be sure to sign your name by typing ~~~~.

Again, welcome! It's great to have you. Happy editing! --Spangineer (háblame) 15:17, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

Thank you, I will do that.

Marmot

Hi Marmot, I've just uploaded a picture of a Marmot that I took in France. Thought you might be interested. Do you know what type it is? --Silversmith Hewwo 14:44, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Alpine marmot, if you say it was in France.

That is a beautiful creature

• Great, thanks. I've updated it's information. --Silversmith Hewwo 10:40, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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it would seem you have a legitimate basis for complaint with regards to the situation outligned. justice can be done by my self, and a few of those like my self. - James Jones

What do you propose? --Cool Cat 01:16, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

"Begin by voting against the establishment here 777. The next time you need to file a complaint, inform me in advance and I will provide the backup."

RfC on Raul

I'm sorry no. It's a waste of time. There is no way that one of the lords of Misplaced Pages is going to be censured, no matter what he does. He's above the law, I'm afraid. Grace Note 02:26, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Oh please. - Ta bu shi da yu 02:44, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Admins

Administrators are not monsters, you know. - Ta bu shi da yu 02:44, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages policy

1. Which Misplaced Pages policy forbids a VfD within an hour of a page's creation?
2. Blanking comments on one's Talk page, as you do, isn't against policy, but is described in Misplaced Pages guidelines as suggesting that a User has something to hide... Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 18:59, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Request for Comment Summon

A Request for Comment regarding your activities on Misplaced Pages has been created. Consequently, you are required to provide a response defending or otherwise explaining your actions. You may find your RFC at Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/MARMOT. Linuxbeak | Talk | Desk 00:54, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

Comments on user page

You may be right, those comments could have been better put here. So instead of deleting them, move them to the talk page. For another, see Misplaced Pages:Vandalism. Good faith edits do not qualify as vandalism. You have set up that section of your user page as a soapbox, so you should expect comments there. My goal was not to repeat the context, but if you don't want comments there, here is the place. Here are the comments and the context:

A social experiment

A few days ago I created an article entitled "Administrators cannot vote" under the "Policy Proposals" section. The policy outligned a new proposal that would prevent current adinistrators from nominating new ones to serve alongside them (or from opposing new candidates).

What happened

• The page was listed on Votes for deletion, within 1 hour (contrary to official wikipedia policy)
  • That is incorrect, see talk. - Taxman 07:39, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)
• Within 24 hours there were 10 votes to delete, out of a total of 12
• Within 3 days there were 19 votes to delete, out of a total of 25

One might say, a firm rebuttal, until I did a little investigation (thank you, Steven). As it turns out, of the 19 votes to delete, 15 were made by administrators, as you can easily check against ].

• Even if the page weren't an abvious attempt at disruption, what you mention would not be evidence of any problem. Your statements are a weak form of an ad hominem attack. - Taxman 07:39, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

3RR

Your are in danger of violating the Three Revert Rule on Misplaced Pages:Votes for deletion/Administrators cannot vote. {{NPOV}} is not appropriate on a VFD discussions -- only articles. (after all it should be implied anyway). Zzyzx11 (Talk) 21:34, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

If you look in more detail, you see I reverted on 2 occasions. Regardless of this, 3RR does not apply to vandalism.

Terrorism

I've unlocked it, Marmot. Happy editing. SlimVirgin 11:38, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

Thank you.

Disruptive behavior

Hi, you've made a large number of edits that clearly have not been made to help Misplaced Pages. If you have any interest in improving Misplaced Pages, please consider rethinking your editing and try to do what is best instead. Thanks - Taxman 03:28, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)

"Elaborate?"

Well I'd say the RFC against you is establishing a pretty solid consensus for the fact that your edits are not helpful. Again, please stop your disruptive behavior. There are plenty of things to help with on Misplaced Pages and plenty of ways to do it. Oh, and please stop ignoring the requests to sign your edits on talk and discussion pages. - Taxman 17:50, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

"Thanks for that. I'd sum it up as pointless." MARMOT 18:18, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The RFC is only pointless if you don't think fair attempts at stopping disruptive behavior should be made. If you had any desire to help improve Misplaced Pages, you wouldn't see it as pointless either. Take it as consensus that your behavior is not helpful, and instead try to contribute some good. - Taxman 18:47, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

Requests for arbitration summon

A request for arbitration regarding your activities on Misplaced Pages has been created. Consequently, you are required to provide a response (500 words or less) defending or otherwise explaining your actions. You may find your RFAr at Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration#User:MARMOT. Linuxbeak | Talk | Desk 19:08, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

Stop erasing the comments

As an RFAr case is open and this talk page is considered evidence, please stop erasing the contents. Otherwise, this page will have to be protected. Linuxbeak | Talk | Desk 12:06, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)

Protection

I've unprotected this talk page. There's been ample precendent to say that one may edit one's user and talk pages as one sees fit. I'm quite certain there was a failed RFC on Netoholic at some point which concerned this behavior, but I can't find it at the moment (I will keep looking). If I do remember correctly, the predominant opinion was that while removing comments from one's talk page may be antisocial, it's within one's rights. I don't see what rule MARMOT has broken in removing comments from his talk page. If you desperately need to see old revisions, use the history button up top. Record diffs, if you want. But this is MARMOT's talk page, and he doesn't have to keep comments here that he doesn't want (at least as far as I'm aware). If MARMOT chooses to remove even this comment, I'd be content with his actions. - Vague | Rant 13:17, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)

Found it: Special:Undelete/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Netoholic_2. - Vague | Rant 13:33, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)

That is far from a consensus, and you were one of the only five people to agree that people can remove whatever they want from talk pages. That against at least five people that agreed it was not helpful. If you're going to cite some evidence that allows blanking a talk page in the middle of an RfArb against the user, you'll have to do better than that. - Taxman 13:51, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)