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Can you please protect Gaya confederacy from unregistered users? this persistent user is using two different IPs to add this irrelevant blog page as a source. thanks. Odst 02:14, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
- Looks like Academic Challenger (talk · contribs) has done it already. Still, thanks for bringing it to my attention. --Nlu (talk) 07:13, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Regarding your edits and further comment here
Are you familiar with WP:DBTN? And did you actually check the link? Bad form. Ryan4314 06:02, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
- WP:DBTN is not a justification for your own improper actions. I looked at the site in question. In my opinion, it clearly violates WP:EL. Whether you agree or not, "But I'm a newcomer whose actions should be tolerated!" is not a proper argument. --Nlu (talk) 06:52, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
- You are mistaken, this was not my IP, you were wrong to assume it was (If you looked at my contributions you could clearly see my "post registration" edit history pre-dates this particular edit). I merely came across this exchange as I have recently joint the article, in an attempt to keep it updated. If it was me as a newbie, you better believe you would've of heard about it!
- You're also mistaken again, I was not attempting to "debate" the matter with you. Only to tell you of your bad tact in the use of generic templates. These templates were created so we could give un-volatile warnings to vandals, to save time and add uniformity to Misplaced Pages, they are still however templates none-the-less. Templates are un-specific, emotionless and should not be used in every situation.
- I presume, that being an administrator you are still modest enough to chalk this up as a "lesson learned", to draw a "positive" from this experience? Or have you learnt all there is to know about wikipedia and interaction with those who use it? Ryan4314 22:43, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
- I see nothing improper with reverting an improper link. If you believe otherwise, tough. --Nlu (talk) 04:55, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
- "Tough", I can see you've obviously devoted a lot of thought that response, to a member of community you were elected by to administrate. Ryan4314 18:29, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
(undent) Hi Ryan... I hear what you're saying, and it is very obvious that the contents of the page you are discussing have some importance to you personally. I know that the Misplaced Pages way of doing things can be bewildering and even annoying at times. It takes time to adjust into the system, and what you have to bear in mind is that most of the time things that may seem rude or abrupt to a nascent editor are actually just the actions of an editor who has done the same thing hundreds of times to hundreds of articles, and is doing something that large numbers of other editors have also done hundreds of times to hundreds of articles. It's possible that from your point of view the action doesn't seem appropriate, because the contents of the page that you are involved with have been removed by someone who is a stranger to you. Moreover, the verbiage on the template that was put on the talk page may seem a little impersonal and matter-of-fact. However, from the point of view of people who have been around a long time, these actions are quite appropriate. I think the key point here is that the article in question is clearly important to you, but to everyone else (and I hope you'll forgive me for saying this) it is merely words on a page — and the words need to be checked, and the sources need to be checked, and there are a number of relevant rules and guidelines that apply. I actually agree with Nlu's actions (again, I know you may be offended by that, and I'm sorry), but I hope you can see they were not intended as a slight or an attack or an action of callous disregard or anything at all like that. Cheers! --Ling.Nut 19:12, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
- No, I'm British, but not a serviceman or in anyway involved with any of the personnal mentioned in the article. I also agree with NLU's actions (I agree with all wikipedia policies, that I know of), originally I was only informing NLU that I thought his use of templates in such a delicate situation was "bad tact". Since then the messages I've added have only been corrections e.g NLU thinking I was the IP, you thinking I'm involved with the deceased. This was never a debate, and NLU has been rather brusque in his responses e.g "Tough", and therefore I have become disappointed administrators like this exist on Misplaced Pages, am I allowed to be disappointed?
- I will say though Ling, you have been very civil in the way you message, which is painfully obvious next NLU's messages, and I feel your comments were designed to be informative, not provocative. Cheers Ryan4314 03:32, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Reverting Cut-and-Paste Moves is POV-Pushing?
Can you point out the POV-pushing somewhere here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Svooun757 (talk • contribs)
- You know what you did. This is hardly the only edit that you made on the page. --Nlu (talk) 20:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
- Can you point out any POV-pushing? Because I can't find any. Provide at least one link for that article. I bet you didn't even look at the differences between revisions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Svoun757 (talk • contribs)
- Whatever. I am not going to play this game with you. You know what you've been doing when you were IP hopping. --Nlu (talk) 05:45, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
- Can you point out any POV-pushing? Because I can't find any. Provide at least one link for that article. I bet you didn't even look at the differences between revisions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Svoun757 (talk • contribs)
Dong Yaying
Before I make a fool out of myself on AFD, I thought I'd check with you first. I'm suspecting this article to be a hoax, what do you think? _dk 04:27, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
- No hits on Google, Google Scholar, JSTOR or Academic Search Premier. Looking very suspicious, esp. given the surname "Dong". --Ling.Nut 04:36, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
- Now the page subject turned from a Han Dynasty eunuch to a Tang Dynasty one....now this change is very suspicious, as it looks like the author changed the subject to Tang after his cover is blown for the Han period. But since Tang Dynasty is really out of my scope, I'm even more unsure whether to put it on AFD. So far a prod notice and a hoax tag have been removed by the author. (p.s. Ling, Dong is a very common surname! There's nothing wrong with it :) _dk 10:13, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
- My guess is that it's fictional (rather than hoax). I think what gives it away is that Liu Keming wasn't killed by anyone named Dong; it was another powerful eunuch, Wang Shoucheng, who killed Liu. (Sorry I didn't get back to you quickly on this; I've been worn out all week waiting for my trial case (set for this past Tuesday) to get a courtroom available.) --Nlu (talk) 13:37, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
- Incidentally, I thought of speedy deleting it, but I can't find an appropriate criterion to fit this under. If you can file an AfD, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. --Nlu (talk) 13:38, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
- Also, I also misread the text of the article slightly. However, there is nothing I can find that confirms the existence of this person. --Nlu (talk) 15:07, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
I went ahead and AfD'ed it. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. --Nlu (talk) 15:35, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
- For the record, of course I know Dong is a surname.. but it is also one of many AmerEng slang words for penis, and its use in an article about a eunuch seemed highly coincidental to me :-) -- Ling.Nut 00:15, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
WP:RD/H
Could you please take a look at this question? Perhaps you could tackle the query or refer me to a wikipedian who could be of help? Thanks in advance, Ghirla 13:16, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for bringing it to my attention. These are questions that call for answers that are really outside my area of expertise such that I can only make semi-educated guesses, and I don't think I should. --Nlu (talk) 12:57, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Great contributions
i've read lots of your article about Chinese history there & i ve translated some of it into Indonesia, ex:Yuchi Jingde, Qin Shubao, Du Ruhui, etc. it enable me to know more about Chinese history/ our ancestor history. keep writing. I wait u to write about the historical figures from Song & Ming Dynasty because the availabled articles are not expanded enough. Thx. --125.163.27.218 16:04, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, and I also appreciate your translation work. I haven't been writing as much lately since I've been busy, but I do plan to write more when I get more time, which I should, next week, for example. --Nlu (talk) 15:14, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Mr. Nlu, from where do you get such a complete information about history ? u always get new knowledge from your work here, thx --125.163.27.218 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.94.127.3 (talk) 15:32, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
- Well, I was a history major in college... :-) But my main source is the Zizhi Tongjian] -- both the original and the modern Chinese translation by Bo Yang. I also use the official histories. --Nlu (talk) 17:53, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Richard Archer and other
Hi, Nlu. It's been a while since I've last sought or talked to you. Well, I was trying to move the page Richard John Archer to Richard Archer, but then realised that I couldn't (I can't delete the page Richard Archer, which I intended to move it to). Could you do this, please?
I was also meaning to ask whether I should make an RfA or something. Any tips, or anything? Thanks! Qwerty (talk) 04:43, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- Done. Sorry didn't notice this earlier. --Nlu (talk) 04:16, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Yug request
Hello Nlu,
I'm currently in Taipei being the recipient of a Taiwan gouverment scholarship. I think (??) you leave in Taipei, if it's the case, please can you contact me (via email), I'm especially interesting to get a cheap of the Cambridge history of China, especially about the Sui & Tang dynasties.
Regards
Yug 11:09, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- I actually live in California, not Taiwan, although I visit Taiwan occasionally. I actually wouldn't know much about Taiwanese bookstores (new or used). Sorry. --Nlu (talk) 14:48, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- O.o Ok, that's sad but I will survive !, see you . Yug 02:17, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
- :-) --Nlu (talk) 04:14, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
- O.o Ok, that's sad but I will survive !, see you . Yug 02:17, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Zhou Yu
Hello Nlu, sorry to bother you again...I've been repeatedly reverting fiction from the Zhou Yu acticle, but the fictitious parts have all been restored by a editor who is convinced that the popular fictitious account of the Battle of Chibi is actually historical fact. Despite my daily reversions and attempts in proving him wrong, he keeps reverting to fiction. Is there anything to do that can resolve this problem? _dk 00:02, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- I'll be on your side. --Ling.Nut 01:24, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- I would suggest filing an WP:RFC (not for user conduct yet, but for content discussion). If that doesn't help, I'd then consider reporting to WP:AN/I to ask for an admin warning/block. --Nlu (talk) 06:11, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- An additional thought -- I'll leave a comment on the person's talk page as well and see if that helps. --Nlu (talk) 06:40, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you for your help :) _dk 08:04, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- No, thank you. --Nlu (talk) 08:46, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you for your help :) _dk 08:04, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- An additional thought -- I'll leave a comment on the person's talk page as well and see if that helps. --Nlu (talk) 06:40, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- I would suggest filing an WP:RFC (not for user conduct yet, but for content discussion). If that doesn't help, I'd then consider reporting to WP:AN/I to ask for an admin warning/block. --Nlu (talk) 06:11, 26 September 2007 (UTC)