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== Bill O’Reilly Celebrates Black History Month == | == Bill O’Reilly Celebrates Black History Month == | ||
Reports now surfacing the web from employees of Fox News |
Reports now surfacing the web from employees of Fox News about Bill O'Reilly's celebration of Black History Month ] 17:06, 1 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
:Keeping in mind ], that had ''better'' be backed up by a ] prior to inclusion. ] <sup><small>(]|])</small></sup> 17:09, 1 October 2007 (UTC) | :Keeping in mind ], that had ''better'' be backed up by a ] prior to inclusion. ] <sup><small>(]|])</small></sup> 17:09, 1 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
::Inclusion? Why should this be included? --] 14:14, 4 October 2007 (UTC) | ::Inclusion? Why should this be included? --] 14:14, 4 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
:::If it becomes ], ], and ] (I haven't heard anything else about it) then the burden is on someone to show why it must be excluded. Remember that ]. Either way, it does not appear that this story "has legs" or has hopes of being reliably sourced (at least in the short term), so it's probably a moot point. /] 15:54, 4 October 2007 (UTC) | :::If it becomes ], ], and ] (I haven't heard anything else about it) then the burden is on someone to show why it must be excluded. Remember that ]. Either way, it does not appear that this story "has legs" or has hopes of being reliably sourced (at least in the short term), so it's probably a moot point. /] 15:54, 4 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
I've edited the first sentence of this section due to BLP concerns. ] <sup>]</sup> 16:47, 4 October 2007 (UTC) |
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What is wrong with the You-Tube videos?
The You-Tube videos of himself are somewhat sped-up to about two percent try to make O'Reilly sound more like a puppy dog in those videos, which confuses some of their viewers.
--4.160.216.121 01:50, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Which ones? I watch him on Youtube all the time and have never noticed. Jcrav2k6 18:34, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- Please see WP:TALK. This page is to discuss changes and improvements to the article. Ramsquire 18:49, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- Please see WP:EL and confirm that any videos are not in violation of external link protocol, including linking to copyrighted material. Bytebear 21:32, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Archive
I think it is time for this page to be archived. If there is some current ongoing discussion, please advise. Otherwise I will archive the page. Ramsquire 22:02, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Shocking Omission
The word Peabody doesn't show up on the page. O'Reilly has repeatedly claimed to have won "two Peabody awards - the most prestigious award in journalism" for his work on Inside Edition. He's repeated this claim for several years on every venue he spoke in front of. This glaring omission causes me to doubt everything I read on Misplaced Pages.
How do you guys choose which facts to ignore? Do you practice censorship, do certain people "own" pages and publish whatever they feel like under the guise of a public encyclopedia, or what?
- You may want to check his controversies article. Ramsquire 16:24, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
I made some edits that don't really chnange the meaning per se but changes the tone a bit? But to be fair, why call one person's claim "a lawsuit" but call O'Rielly's claim as a "preemptive lawsuit?" -- the tone of the 1st para of that section suggests the harassment was true, and it wasn't extortion, it was just O'Reilly saying it was ... one is depicted as the truth teller and the other is the liar ... and we don't know any of that. In addition, some of the ocmments are illogical. I removed where it said the disputes were settled "in her favor" -- because it was not a court settlement, there is no "favor" one way or another. Also it's confidential. Both of them say it was settled in "their favor." Oh, also at one point, one of them "contends" something, and the other "claims" something. Adjusted that so they are the same. SecretaryNotSure 01:27, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
For what is O'Reilly best known?
Is he best known as a (political) "commentator" or as a "TV presenter" or something else? If you asked 1000 Americans what he BO'R does, what would most say (apart from "I don't know"!)? It would be convenient if it were something other than "commentator", as it would mean we could rename the article and therefore remove the disambiguation "hat" at the top of the page (the other Bill O'Reilly was a sports commentator, after he retired from playing). NB "(political commentator)" would also do the trick nicely. --Dweller 16:15, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- He is best known as the host of the O'Reilly Factor, and that is stated in the first sentence in the article. He is a political commentator so I don't think we need to change anything in the article lead. Ramsquire 16:56, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- You misunderstood me. I'm not suggesting any amendment to the Lead - I'm referring to the article title. --Dweller 17:35, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- I see no point in removing the disambiguation hat. It's interesting to know that there's another famous Bill O'Reilly. Ben Hocking 17:10, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- Interesting opinion, thanks. Logically extending that, we'd make all pages for similarly named people into disambig pages. --Dweller 17:35, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- Maybe I'm missing your point, but don't we already do that in most cases? Ben Hocking 17:40, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- Not where there's a prime usage. --Dweller 20:16, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- Gotcha. There are four issues: (1) The hat dab—AFAIK, that's almost universal. (2) the dab page. Also almost universal. (3) What Bill O'Reilly redirects to: the dab page or this page. This is not at all universal. The question is whether this BOR is sufficiently more famous than the other for Bill O'Reilly to redirect here. (4) Given that Bill O'Reilly would be synonymous with the dab page, whether the dab page should redirect to it, or vice-versa. It seems that having Bill O'Reilly redirect to the dab page makes a lot more sense. I plan on suggesting this on Talk:Bill O'Reilly. Ben Hocking 20:25, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Bill O’Reilly Celebrates Black History Month
Reports now surfacing the web from employees of Fox News about Bill O'Reilly's celebration of Black History Month AhmaudAdoudie 17:06, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- Keeping in mind WP:BLP, that had better be backed up by a reliable source prior to inclusion. Ben Hocking 17:09, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- Inclusion? Why should this be included? --Tom 14:14, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
- If it becomes reliably sourced, properly presented, and verifiable (I haven't heard anything else about it) then the burden is on someone to show why it must be excluded. Remember that notability does not apply to content. Either way, it does not appear that this story "has legs" or has hopes of being reliably sourced (at least in the short term), so it's probably a moot point. /Blaxthos 15:54, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
- Inclusion? Why should this be included? --Tom 14:14, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
I've edited the first sentence of this section due to BLP concerns. Ramsquire 16:47, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
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