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Coca-cola

actually, jossi. the coca-cola page was hacked and there was no code with the hack on it so i guess it was some like fixed hack thing. sorry you missunderstood.

i have a wikipedia account its ryryion theryes nothing wrong i would never mess wikipedia up its helped me with alot of papers.

thanks

ryan..

(screen name (aol) westoceanlove16)— Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.255.183.240 (talk • contribs)

Jossi, please look at Generation Rescue talk page

We think we have materially improved the citation, and that problems have been created by people who violently disagree with Generation Rescue and want a very slanted entry. All we want is a Wiki page that is neutral and presents BOTH sides of the organization.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Staff Writer Wiki (talk • contribs)

Request for Comment: Regarding subcategory title

Please give your comment / suggestions regarding this in the Sathya Sai talk page. I have also requested comments from other editors. Wikisunn 22nd February 2007

You comments relating to an edit on Leonardo. 1. I bow to your editorial skill 2. I believe you are in error and obviously uninformed on recent theories regarding DaVinci's Mona Lisa. Therefore I would request you retract you comment of Vandalism as it is unwarranted. There was no nonsense in the comments appended. If you still believe there was, please be specific. I thank you for you concern and applaud you contributions but I do not want you to believe there was nonsense or malice. I would be pleased to have had the opportunity to append cites to support my comment had you not voided them. I would hope that actions were not homophobic and assume you are not involved in art history. I am university educated with an art history minor from Columbia University, N.Y. and studied in Italy as well. In any event, best regards. denidoc@gmail.com

Prince Henry

I will try to follow your suggestions. However, let me point out that the first to insult with vulgar terms like "asshole" was Dr. Lisboa. And it is difficult not to attack a poster who is constantly wrong, refuses to acknowledge his errors, and simply persists in them or drops one error and creates new ones. In short, how gladly must one suffer fools?

professional historian who has corrected Dr. Lisboa's many errors.

Another "Dr" Lisboa on Prince Henry the Navigator complaint

This has nothing to do with the content of the article, but simply the unneccesary insult directed toward me on the talk page. I noticed your post there, and this seems to be the only way of contacting you. I refuse to take abuse from another person, virtual or otherwise. Thank you.

Calligraphy

Hi Jossi. I note tonight that someone put a spam notice at the bottom of the Calligraphy page. I hope it was not you ? I have done most of the editing recently- I have contacted some 3rd parties about their own sites that I have put links to. My judgement is that the assistance and educational value of the ones chosen is significant. There are a number of editing decisions that I have made that exclude content on the basis of it being an invitation for all and sundry to post their own sites or books. I recommend that if someone has a specific objection that they make it public. Otherwise I think we're on the right track. What do you think about the prominent calligraphers list ? I don't think that it is useful and again poses a threat to the credibility of the main site. ayou may wish to read my recent contributions on the discussion board regarding some of the things I have had to correct- one example includes changing a short, direct quotation from a reputable source into a misquotation. Can we have a look at introducing some new images and perhaps removing "Urkunde" ? Please respond on my talk page. Regards.≈ Furminger ≈ 19 April 2007

I did not touch that article for a while. For an guideline on what is acceptable as an external link, see WP:EL. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk)

IRC cloak request

I am jossi on freenode and I would like the cloak wikipedia/jossi Thanks. --~ ≈ jossi ≈ (talk)

backdrop on Stephan Sinding pages

how are you, i was at the help desk and couldn't find stuff on taking down a photo just 4.11 Uploading a photo. I wasn't the one who took down the "Kjærlighetspar" photo on the intimacy page, i just signed out of my accout to post a myspace and youtube vandal pic hoping someone would take down all the pics seeing how none of the pics are specific to the intimacy sentences. it worked, but on the Stephan Sinding page the back frame and caption for the pict "Kjærlighetspar" ("Loving couple") is still up just like on the intimacy article. i think the pics were deleted by you since User:Jossi was the last undo, and a administrator. can you send some pointers on how to get rid of that backdrop on Stephan Sinding pages and not just take them down Please.

pict frame backdrop on Stephan Sinding pages

Stephan Sinding pages, thanks.

sorry for that long letter since you werent even the one who undid the last message. i didnt even notice the Click here to ask your question about editing Misplaced Pages on the New contributors' help page. if your the one who got intouch with User:Ziji to take down the back pict frame on the Stephan Sinding pages, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.175.95.66 (talk • contribs)

How do I ask for protection on (a) page(s)?

How do i ask for protection on a page?

Please reply on my talk page

WikiProject Biography Summer 2007 Assessment Drive

WikiProject Biography is holding a three month long assessment drive!
The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unassessed articles. The drive is running from June 1, 2007 – September 1, 2007.

Awards to be won range from delicacies such as the WikiCookie to the great Golden Wiki Award.
There are over 110,000 articles to assess so please visit the drive's page and help out!

This drive was conceived of and organized by Psychless with the help of Ozgod. Regards, Psychless .

Article Protection

Please can you justify how issues regarding the trademark is relavant to the Royal Bengal Airline article? Please could you very kindly review this again and cut this out? Thank you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Airphantom (talk • contribs)

Can you please help me - again

Hi. On the Henry Keogh page there has been a debate going on about that there was no citing on whether he attended the school. One has been made, but how do we know that she isn't just lying to make sure it stays on? Surely there must be more than just writing something down and giving it an un-proven cite and that makes it able to be kept on. Can you explain to me more on that situation of whether you can just write it down or you have to actually have physical proof.

Sorry, some people must think they are you as they are asking a question I am asking you.

my edit to 2005

Might I point out the line concerning "Berticus the great"?

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deleted help page

hi,

I was reading something on help page. After few minutes i went to have coffe some body have deleted or edited the content in my help page and saved the page how can i get back that content. Please help me in doing this. Thanks and regards, Y.Naganaresh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naganaresh (talk • contribs)

Mean Red Spiders

All the information is true.

David Humphreys — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dashumphreys (talk • contribs)

self published sources

"Material from self-published and questionable sources may be used as sources in articles about themselves, so long as:

   * it is relevant to their notability;
   * it is not contentious;
   * it is not unduly self-serving;
   * it does not involve claims about third parties;
   * it does not involve claims about events not directly related to the subject;
   * there is no reasonable doubt as to who wrote it;
   * the article is not based primarily on such sources."

stop removing sections without discussing them on the talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.61.208.156 (talk • contribs)

Exactly. Please do not re-add material that violates policy. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk)

Thanks for Extension

Dear Jossi,

Many thank for giving me (and everyone else out there) until the eighth to get the citations in.

RE: Categories

Honored

Jossi, I'm honored that you've offered to nominate me for adminship. I'm interested in serving as an admin but would like to avoid a premature or unsuccessful RfA. Kinowing my own life experiences and responsibilities, I am sure that I can be trusted as a responsible sysop at Misplaced Pages. However, I realize Wikipedians only know me through HG's edits/contributions. So, if you don't mind, I'd like to ask you a few questions.

Besides my absorbing the admin reading list and RfA info, what do you think I should do to prepare for the RfA?

Do you have a sense of whether/how I should address some of my shortcomings prior to an RfA? Or during the RfA discussion? For instance, my current edit count is around 1,650, which is lower than the benchmark used by some RfA nominators (if not voters). In addition, I lack certain areas of know-how or experience, such as may be needed for editing the interface or working with bots.

When were you thinking would be a good time to start the RfA?

Thanks for your confidence in me. Take care. HG | Talk 16:21, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

There is no need to rush for an RfA, and indeed is better to be well prepared ... A first good step would be to ask for a Misplaced Pages:Editor review, and see what recommendations you get from other editors. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 20:33, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

You can also get involved in some of the janitorial stuff, such as fighting vandalism, working on one of the many backlogs, etc. If you are interested in spending some of your wiki-time in removing vandalism from Misplaced Pages, email me and I will give you instructions on how to set yourself up with some tools for that task. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 20:38, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I think the editor review is a great idea. It's interesting, the review page itself says it's not for people who want to be admins, but then a fair amount of the cases do revolve around RfA issues. Well, no matter how it plays out, I'd be glad to get feedback on any aspect of my efforts here. Perhaps I'll try my hand at some maintenance tasks, too, at some point. Thanks. HG | Talk 02:12, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Advice please

Dear Jossi, This is outright harassment, following on the heels of filing a vandalism report against me (that was turned down flat), besides little insults like this though he was supposedly a brand new user. Who has time to deal with such editors?

I've been treating him with good faith and he continues to test the patience of all on the Sahaj Marg talk page.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thank you, Renee --Renee 19:18, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

My view, is that given enough rope certain people do not need help in getting the proverbial knot around their own necks. Save these diffs, and if he persists, you can file a notice for disruption at WP:ANI ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 20:30, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. Will do. Renee 20:41, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Sock confirmed. Thanks again for moving us forward on the Sahaj Marg page. You had mentioned in one talk post that newspaper articles could sometimes be primary sources? When is that the case? --Renee 13:49, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Yep ... given enough rope .... some people inflict pain upon themselves unaided. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 14:59, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I modeled the following off of what you did (cut and paste). Hope they're right! (feel free to fix if messed up) Comments welcome, Renee Renee 22:25, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome

However, I noticed that you undid my edit at Israel. Could you please explain to me why? Tegwarrior 23:29, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, sure. I will explain in that article's talk. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 23:36, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Responded there. You seem to have missed the two points of my change. If they now make sense to you, I'd appreciate it if you'd restore my change now rather than leaving it for me to do after a couple of days. Tegwarrior 00:04, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Washington post article

Hi Jossi - Here's the article on Misplaced Pages editing of political pages from Monday's Washington Post that included some quotes from me - front page, by the way. Tvoz |talk 23:37, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Got it, thanks. You make us proud...! :) ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 23:42, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks - it was pretty cool. Tvoz |talk 05:11, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

User:206.40.168.90

I caught this user's vandalism at Paul Reubens about half an hour after your "only warning" tag. Block? Cheers! Murderbike 23:47, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Principle, rules, the madness!

I wrote a first draft for a new essay, Misplaced Pages:The rules are principles, and I would really appreciate your input and opinions. I hope this finds you well. Cheers! Vassyana 02:07, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your assistance and feedback. I particularly like the picture and caption. :) Vassyana 05:14, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Looking good...! ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 05:17, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

The Protocols and World Revolution

The two Antisemitism templates are different! Ludvikus 04:11, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but for a short stub, it is an overkill... ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 04:17, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

James R. Lewis

A {{prod}} template has been added to the article James R. Lewis, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice explains why (see also "What Misplaced Pages is not" and Misplaced Pages's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you endorse deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please tag it with {{db-author}}. Rat 13:47, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

This had been significantly defaced, as a trivial inspection of the history showed. I've de-prodded and restored the pre-vandalism version. SamBC(talk) 13:53, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

NOR - proposal for second section

While we continue to slug it out over primary and secondary sources, would you support this proposal? I raised it a little over a week ago and there was some support and little opposition. Having proposed it I don't think it is appropriate for me to make the change, but if you think it would be an improvement could you orchestrate moving it into the policy (or try to)? I think everyone would like to see some forward motion, and it is not going to happen with the sources issue right now ... Slrubenstein | Talk 16:47, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Vandal

Ozzie9 has been vandalizing the Hillary article. Captain Phoebus 18:37, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

In the future, please post a notice at WP:AIV ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 18:51, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I over-rode your block of User:Ozzie9 and turned it into an indefinite block. The contribution history is 100% vandalism. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:31, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Sure, no problems. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 20:32, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Rfcs and other travesties

How did you miss that Rfc? Ferrylodge is still complaining about Bishonen on his talk page, go look.

Perhaps you missed the entire mess. I could start with the original incident, but I think these will be sufficient (assuming you actually need to see any more): Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive252#Harassment Charge By Bishonen Against Ferrylodge, followed by Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Bishonen 2, followed by Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive259#Disruptive editing at Misplaced Pages talk:Requests for comment by Ferrylodge. These are only the main events in a long and sorry saga. I could have written a huge Rfc followed by ArbCom, but I thought it would save time and effort, on everyone's part, to simply list the highlights at CSN. KillerChihuahua 00:52, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Missed it completely... Well, there still are nooks and crannies in Misplaced Pages that escape my attention.... ;) ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 00:55, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

What a bloody waste of time... This community ban should have been done long ago. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 00:58, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, that's clearly my position. Enough is enough, and in this case, more than enough. KillerChihuahua 01:06, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Aye! ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 01:06, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

I would appreciate you taking a look at this. KillerChihuahua 22:25, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Indian religions

Hi, Jossi…….IAF is wreaking a havoc on the pages of Indian religions. I suggest that you have a look at his edits and discussion. He has violated the 3RR rule many times. Its high time some administrator intervened here. --Anish Shah 09:04, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

User Manish Modi is reverting the Indian religions page without as much as a peep into the talk page. I think he is either a troll, or just someone not interested. Indian_Air_Force (IAF) 18:15, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

I have blocked IAF for one week. This is a recurring pattern of behaviour. He was blocked just over a month ago for 96 hours due to similar actions. Also, IAF's claim that MM never posted to the talk page is false, which continues an apparent pattern of distortion/disruption. Vassyana 19:09, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Good call. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 21:18, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

IAF is once again back to his old tricks by using IP - http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/60.243.3.105

He has started edit warring once again - http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Indian_religions&curid=14605&diff=160193788&oldid=159952940

I suggest that this page be semi protected. Thanks--Anish Shah 08:08, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Youtube thread

The reason I linked to it was the comments at the bottom >_> Will 10:02, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Uri Geller

I'm wondering if you'd like to take a look at Uri Geller, and see if you think it faces the same issue of an overdone criticism section that Sylvia Browne had. An editor there thinks so, and without reading the whole thing, it looks like it to me as well. ——Martin _{(Talk Ψ Contribs)} 14:08, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

I have cleaned it up a bit, removed a bunch of self-published sources as per WP:SELFPUB and WP:BLP and made some comments in talk. Happy editing. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 21:40, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Wow, you're fast

Thanks for fixing my mistake in cutting off your signature there! Sorry about that. Wikidemo 14:38, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for the welcome "jossi"! Deconstructhis 23:17, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Sure... Happy editing! ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 23:57, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Dominionism

Hi Jossi. I really appreciate your helping me clarify what I did and didn't mean to say on Talk:Dominionism. The infobox is now (only slighly) less problematic than it was, but it could be changed back in a moment sometime down the road, unless we make a clear statement that its form until yesterday was biased. If you agree (and even if you don't), I would greatly appreciate your opinion of the bold-italic statement I've posted near the end of this thread. Thanks, --BlueMoonlet 01:11, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

thanks

That's basically what I did months ago, hopefully it will stick this time. --JWSchmidt 15:03, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

I have sprotected and placed the page on my watchlist. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 15:17, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome!

Thanks for the warm welcome! I'm just getting started and I'm doing a lot of reading before I make too many edits. Please let me know if you see something I can do to improve my editing. --Jdcaust 20:42, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Just read some of the links I placed in your page, and have fun... Happy editing. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 21:10, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Consensus and policies

Jossi... I don't want to post this to the NOR talk page, as it would simply be a distraction from the discussion... But I do want to point something out to you...

Your edit summary: "This is official policy until such time in which consensus about changing policy is found", which you added to your reverting the addition of a disputed tag on the NOR page, reminds me a lot of a discussion you and I took part in back in October '06 on the WP:RS talk page. Then, the issue was whether to demote WP:RS to Essay or keep it as a Guideline... and people were in a minor revert war over the tag. For example see: this diff, where you return the tag to "essay".

The thing that I just want to point out is this: At that time, you were the one arguing that to fend off a challenge to the status of a guideline/policy, it was the job of the editors that liked the page to show that there weas a consensus to keep. you were defending your edits by saying that it no longer had consensus, and were trying to rebut the claim you now make... that to change the status of something the challengers needed to demonstrate consensus to change. See this old discussion (and those around it) and you will see what I am talking about.

I happen to agree with your current stance (did then, still do)... It does take more than a few editors to "dispute" or challenge the status of a guideline/policy page/section... but I do have to wonder whether your flip/flop in attitude on this question depends on whether you happen to like the policy/guideline in question or not? Just think about it. Blueboar 19:09, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Ambox type=serious

I noticed you'd changed the type of {{POV}}, {{original research}} and {{blpdispute}} from "content" to "serious" a few days ago. I've reverted the changes, since the consensus on Misplaced Pages talk:Article message boxes seems to be that type=serious should be reserved for things like imminent deletion (i.e. {{AfDM}}, {{dated prod}}, {{db-meta}} etc.). If you'd like to discuss this issue, I'd suggest doing so here. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 21:42, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I will raise the issue there. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 22:08, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

GA review of Paul Dale Smith

I'm not trying to be territorial, but I'd put up a review notice on the nominations page and was in the midst of writing a review. The headline of your article talk section was to say the nom was put on hold, but the page's talk tag is unchanged. I see you placed the hold tag on the nomination page's entry though. Just let me know what you were intending. VanTucky 04:47, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

By all means, take over the review. No problems. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 05:08, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks jossi. I'd be happy to hear any additional comments you have concerning the article and the review. VanTucky 20:04, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

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NOR

I am starting to lose patience with WAS 4.250, which is a bad thing. Am I misinterpreting him? Am I being unfair? I would appreciate it if you would comment on this exchange. Slrubenstein | Talk 02:50, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/John_W._Morgan needs pi banning again

Hey there,

I feel silly asking again, but I think we need to ban IPs from this article. People having stopped having an argument and are now just editing nonsense.

Thank you for your time. -Kirkoconnell 12:32, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

speedy delete

Hi Jossi,

Would this be eligible for speedy deletion? (It seems that since the intent was to delete the Shri Ram Chandra Mission pages that this page should be deleted too - no?) If yes, which category would it be? (no content?)

Thanks, Renee Renee 13:05, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

deleted. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 14:41, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

thanks! Renee 16:24, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Templated

I have responded to the template you placed on my talk page. If you have anything to add please do so there. Thanks. --Brianmc 18:33, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I was under the impression ...

... that (dass) this (diese) was (was) the (die) English (Englische) wikipedia (wikipedia) and (und) not (nicht) the (die) German (Deutsche) wikipedia (wikipedia).

Jossi, I might have been mistaken on the 'voting' policy, but I'm pretty sure that this still is the English wikipedia. Adding German names to English words and altering links a la "]" goes beyond me. When people want to know German words for ship classes that also exist in English, they use Wiktionary.Rex 19:49, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

I see no harm in adding other languages to specific names and terms. We do this in may articles, using sanskrit, hebrew and other. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 22:10, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Really. All those terms have perfectly acceptable English counterparts. Indeed many are calques from English. If it concerned a unique word (which I have yet to encounter in German) I would agree, but adding German names behind every English word or using German terms with English redirects is beyond me. You see, my philosophy is that the people who visit the English wikipedia ... want to read in English, not German. Might just be me of course.Rex 07:32, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Note

Please check the history of the Theta Nu Epsilon article through June for the wild and unsubstantiated claims by whoever the advocate for a Purdue story is, (including an extensive made-up history for a never-existing organization called the Holy Order of Skull & Crescent). His posts resulted in large-scale changes to a handful of articles, all of which had to be removed when the hoax was exposed. The article on the Holy Order of Skull & Crescent was deleted. There were several accounts involved in June, including many posts from the IP address 65.54.154.XXX. Now there are the accounts 'Bfigura' and 'Editing', posting the same highly unique story and supported by additional sock puppet posts from 65.54.154.XXX

The article is 100% unsourced. I have tagged it accordingly. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 02:26, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

That's untrue. The article does have references and sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.133.124.199 (talk) 01:38, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Tagged accordingly. See WP:V. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 03:23, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't believe you understand the verifibility guidelines. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.133.124.199 (talk) 00:54, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Phrasal attribution

Hey Jossi. I was wondering if you might comment on this this idea at V. It might also have some bearing on the discussions at WT:NOR. Hope you're well. Marskell 12:06, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Developed Country

Jossi, I erased what seems to be a mistake in the article. If you had read my post in the discussion forum you would understand why. I believe it is correct to improve and erase mistakes in Misplaced Pages. Listing Turkey and South Africa as developed countries is clearly a mistake thus the CIA list is not credible. I think you would agree that leaving such a list in the article is very confusing and not in par with the meaning of Misplaced Pages to provide useful and correct data. If there is a mis-spelling from my side, please feel free to correct it. Dont revert my whole edit!...Unless you have proofs that this list is correct. If so please use the discussion page the specific article before any reverts..Thanx213.5.211.252 17:28, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

In Misplaced Pages we describe information published in reliable sources as per our policy of verifiability. If a source, such as the CIA made a mistake, we simply say that "the CIA says Turkey and South Africa as developed countries", attributing that viewpoint to them. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 18:29, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

New User - Living Bio question

Hey Jossi, I'm not a regular contributor so I don't know the "editing/negotiating with others" policies, but a recent attempt to find information caused me to try to edit a page---with no luck. I saw your name on editorial assistance, and figured I'd ask. What do you do with someone who immediately changes a page back the minute you make changes? The current page on "Judd Winick" was such a congested irrelevant mess that I tried to pare it down, but today it's been put back, and is now actually even more fan-like and longer. I'll give up if it's going to be impossible, but every now and then I like to help around here, and this page is just silly at it's current length. :( Kyraven 13:28, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Best is to engage the editor that is reverting your edits and ask him/her to discuss thes edits with you. If the editor does not respond and continues reverting, you may want to alter an admin at WP:ANI. I will take a look. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 15:45, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks for trying to help. I give up. Everything I tried to convey he took as a personal attack, and focused on everything unimportant, without even seeing the major fixes that need to be made. His tone of "affronted honest dismay" made it impossible to convince him of anything. I'm sad to say I'm finished trying---I don't need this level of stress. I had really hoped that editing this article would be my first step into becoming a regular contributor, but this experience has been so frustrating that I don't think that will happen now. Sigh. Kyraven 18:07, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

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Rex's Block

Should Rex not be blocked for the remainder of the time he was alotted? He was offered a chance to leave comments about his community ban Community sanction noticeboard and he has done that. Anyways, I'll leave it up to you. Kingjeff 19:53, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

He still has exactly 541 hours and 50 minutes of the block to be completed. He is served exactly 34 hours and 10 minutes. Kingjeff 19:59, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Blocks are not punitive but preventative. Any further disruption by this user will result in a one month block escalating to three months if recurring. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 00:42, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure if you realized this but Rex was only unblocked so he could leave messages on his case that you closed on the community sanction board. That's my interpretation of this. Kingjeff 20:42, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I realize that, but what I say above is a good call, I think: The community sanction is sufficient at this point, as any related disruption will be taken very seriously and will be swiftly followed by an immediate 1 month block. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 21:22, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

!!!

You're a Zukofsky fan? And an HG fan – you and me might be friends yet.--G-Dett 01:08, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Do you mean Louis Zukofsky? No really... I just edited an article about René Taupin recently... But that does not mean we cannot be friends... :) ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 01:13, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I didn't know about René Taupin, and I know a fair amount about Zukofsky and Pound. I'll have to look into him. OK, so we both like HG, that's a good enough basis (such a gentleman, what's not to like?)...--G-Dett 02:46, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

HG? ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 02:48, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

User:HG, lol.--G-Dett 02:53, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

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