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Re: David Tress

No problem! I've redirected the David tress page to David Tress, it's always worth having lower case surnames as redirects in case someone who doesn't use the shift key tries to find something. For future reference, if you do create a page by mistake and want to request deletion, adding {{db-g7}} to the page header will alert administrators to the page - this is only for mistakenly created pages though. By the way, good work on the article :) - Zeibura 20:35, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

A disambiguation page won't be necessary until there are three of them. I've changed the links on the film pages to point at David Tress (actor), which is currently a redlink. Once someone creates that article, a link at the top of the artist article should be placed, saying something like "This article is about the artist. For the actor, see David Tress (actor)". If someone then writes more articles about other people called David Tress, meaning there are more than two, that's when David Tress would need to become a disambiguation page pointing at David Tress (artist), David Tress (actor), David Tress (victoria cross maker) etc. Hope this makes sense, - Zeibura 21:48, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

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Royal Astronomical Society library

Hi there. I noticed your edit at Royal Astronomical Society about the library. Thanks for that. Would you be able to supply any more information? I have access to sources about the history of the society, but if you have access to the library, I am sure there will be lots more available on the society and other astronomy topics. I also tidied up the required tags for the picture that a bot left a message about above. Hope that helps. Carcharoth 19:50, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Just about all you'll need to know about the RAS is on its website, somewhere or other (not terribly well organized or signposted, but it's there!). I based my addition on what's on the Library page which I linked to. I didn't want to overdo it lest it be queried as advertising. There is a 2-volume History of the RAS (ISBN 978-0632021758 and 978-0632017911) which you could add to the references if you thought it helpful. Is there anything specific you wanted to know? Regarding the deletion of the book cover, I let that go without comment as it's unimportant. All I had done was to substitute the cover of the second edition of Universe for the cover of the first edition, with the same rationale as used by the original uploader (who I suspect was associated with the US publisher). Skeptic2 20:29, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the details of the two volume RAS history! If I can't find stuff in there or on the website, I might pop back and ask you, if that's OK. One thing I am interested in is the history of MNRAS. Reading some of the old issues (mainly the obituaries and society news) available online at the ADS is fascinating. I recently worked on Astronomische Nachrichten, and would like to do something similar for MNRAS (all part of Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Academic Journals, in case you are interested). Carcharoth 22:25, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

MN didn't start publication until the RAS had been going for a few years. All the early papers went in the Memoirs. Then there was a period of overlap when stuff such as obituaries appeared in both. Only a subset of Memoirs is currently on the ADS but the rest should be going up sometime soon (inside knowledge). For an A-Z index of published obituaries see here: http://www.ras.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=219&Itemid=98 (another of those hidden-away pages). Skeptic2 22:46, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh wow! :-) That list of obituaries is just incredible, especially the ADS links. The index for military ranks and titles of nobility reminds me how many of those 19th century astronomers (probably all of them, in fact) were gentleman scientists, often pursuing astronomy after a military career, or using inherited wealth. I know a lot of those astonomers have Misplaced Pages articles and links to obituaries, but that resource will be extremely helpful for updating ones that don't. Are you aware of Wikisource? Have a look at this for an example of an early notice by John Herschel in the first issue of AN. Carcharoth 22:56, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

I've been looking around that website, and this is especially impressive. One of the Misplaced Pages pages I take an interest in is Royal Medal (an award of the Royal Society), and from there I've become interested in many award articles, including Gold Medal of the Royal Astronomical Society. I wonder whether the other five awards listed here are notable enough for Misplaced Pages? Also, I've been looking at the Latin on the Gold Medal, and was wondering if there is a translation anywhere? I think it says "Quicquid Nitet Notandum" on the front, and something else I can't make out on the reverse. And it would be nice to know who the people are on the medals. I recognise Herschel's 40-foot telescope on the front of the gold medal, but not the people on the front of the medals. Carcharoth 23:13, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Hey, I Googled the phrase, and found a book!! See here: "Whatever Shines Should Be Observed". Fascinating! Carcharoth 23:16, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, the Gold Medal is obviously the top award. I'm not sure how the astronomical community rates the Eddington and Herschel medals, although there are some big-name winners. Perhaps best simply to describe briefly what these other awards are for and link to the relevant page with the list of winners on the RAS website? Skeptic2 19:14, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

OK. I'll have a look sometime and see how many of the winners have articles. If a lot of them do, a list might be doable, or at least mentioning the award in the biographies. Carcharoth 23:13, 25 October 2007 (UTC)