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::Dear me, don't give it another thought. You're ascribing too much importance to the whole thing. As for Penwhale, who just shot himself in the other foot (), I do believe I could manage a discussion with him without referring to your authority. ] | ] 18:26, 1 November 2007 (UTC).
::Dear me, don't give it another thought. You're ascribing too much importance to the whole thing. As for Penwhale, who just shot himself in the other foot (), I do believe I could manage a discussion with him without referring to your authority. ] | ] 18:26, 1 November 2007 (UTC).
::Well, I think you should give it another thought. Bishonen is being far too charitable about this, and, I for one, expected more from you. ] 19:37, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Oxygen tanks are recommended for the New Beetle Kabocha Squash, Bishonen? Aha, the chinchilla is using the label to hide a bloated belly then. Somebody needs to add farting chinchillas to the list of issues affecting air safety today. Suggested fine print for the chinchilla label: NASA warning with image from inside the Beetle Kabocha Squash, showing passengers passed out on the way to the ball due to chinchilla fume toxicity. Pia02:47, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Diff and link guide
I think I fixed the issue. I had a '|' after my url, which killed the diff. It should work now I think. Best, --Bfigura23:02, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank you. I copyedited a little and moved your section higher up, in the interest of the structure of the page as a whole. I reckoned it's logical to have the sections about different ways of creating diffs and links come first, and then finish with a section about how to put them into your text. Bishonen | talk23:19, 15 October 2007 (UTC).
Do you know I really am becoming psychic, I know I'm always saying it but I think it is true. I wrote this yonks ago and forgot about, then when I became a "II" it was one of the pages I truly forgot about and never put it on my watch list - today I sudden;y and for no reason thought about it - and just look at the immediate edit history - it was my baby crying for me! These things cannot be explained!!! I think I will start telling fortunes on my page, there are already quite a few people's futures I can see quite clearly. Anyhow could you mind the baby for me, while I'm away for a few hours, when I get back I shall give it a few hundred footnotes and add to the "new place". Giano13:08, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
No problems, I have reverted myself so that you can easily sort it out. I left you a message on the talk page. Happy editing. Giano14:05, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
An exiting new series and category
I have decided to kick the ball off with the start of a new and interesting category on titled people here is the first The del Carreto Barons of Racalmuto. Should you want to help please select a redlink from here. Tha aim is to have the whole lot culminating with the present day incumbent. 15:14, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't give a rat's behind about "civility," because the term cannot be defined, much less put into practice, but I do believe in matching levels of politeness. Always start nice, I say to myself, but take a look at Talk:Ormulum. One hates to be vicious, but I really thought the whole thing was a put-on. No one would be so foolhardy, arrogant, and willful as to put a "cite" tag on a version 1.0 FA without bothering to read it or do some research, I thought. Utgard Loki12:42, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
My RFA
Thanks for voting on my RFA! Although ultimately it was unsuccessful, I do appreciate the feedback. I believe I've discussed the issue you brought up with you before, so I won't continue to do so here, however all I can say is I'm sorry that you thought that instance was enough to set off enough alarm bells that it would determine how you voted. I did not mean for that event to leave as big an impact on you as it did - and I did not think it did as I thought it was over fairly quickly (even though it did end somewhat bitterly), so again, for that I'm sorry. Perhaps if I ever decide to run again I will have had enough experience to override this unfortunate event and I can gain your support. Thanks again.--danielfolsom22:41, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
I'd be grateful if you could review what's been going on in the last few days on L. Ron Hubbard (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Misou (talk·contribs·deleted contribs·logs·filter log·block user·block log) has been edit-warring to delete references and links without consensus on this and several other Scientology-related articles (check out his recent contributions). Justanother also wants to remove the same links but is going about it in a much more consensual fashion by seeking consensus on Talk:L. Ron Hubbard. This seems a very obvious breach by Misou of the article probation. I can't take action myself, as I've been involved in editing some of those articles, but it seems like a fresh outbreak of the kind of behaviour that resulted in the original arbitration in the first place. -- ChrisO18:17, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
It's a GA now? Cool. I suggest it's time to take the hoax out, then. Don't you think so? Come on, you know what I'm talking about. Nobody believes there was ever a ship called "the Wetmore," you know. All right, it's pretty funny, it made me laugh. But it's over. Take it out, Lar. Bishonen | talk23:33, 19 October 2007 (UTC).
My take on these texts are that they are close to "copy", i.e. commercial, and the most important thing is that they sound good. The choice might be between 100% accurate and awkward, and 90% accurate and smooth Swedish - then you go for the 90%. I am sure a professional translator could complain about style level and many such things. I think we should be happy if we manage to create texts that works for the purpose. You are most welcome to take a look at all of the texts, of course, but we are especially looking for help with the questions posted on the talk pages above. I have also asked the person who wrote the text, Sandra Ordonez, the Communications Manager of the WMF, and Bastique, the volunteer coordinator, since what happens in these matters I think is very much his domain. You don't have to do anything of course, but if you feel like chipping in, please do so fairly swiftly since this fundraiser thing will be launched soonish. // habj21:24, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi Bish, could you please do me a favor and delete these two redirects with the artificial history .
Those are the traces of some user's moving unilaterally a bunch of articles without even informally proposing at talk. I moved those back except these two since the redirect's history require the admin intervention. TIA, --Irpen21:15, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Oh, sorry about the page. It's the rabbits, I expect. I do archive quite frequently! Yes, I do disagree, I think it's an inherently POV name. But that's not the reason I closed as "delete"; I merely thought deletion was the result of the debate. If you feel strongly about creating the redirect, you'd better take it to deletion review. Regards, Bishonen | talk23:30, 28 October 2007 (UTC).
We disagree then. I think a redirect from a POV name to NPOV DAB page is OK. However, I don't think I feel strongly enough to stir up a new debate. I do like the rabbits though. Thanks, SmokeyJoe05:36, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
It is, of course, not an innocent search term. It's a term in use specifically by one group of people. A redirect is a nice way of handling these specialized points of view, in general, if those points of view won't overwhelm the target. Given who the specialized group is, in this case, I rather suspect that "Ethical issues" would very, very soon get the full weight of those persons tipping the article over, capsizing it into the seas of POV war. Probably right to delete, if that will actually deal with the problem. Utgard Loki11:46, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
How about boasting, is that ok? Then I'll just mention that 'Zilla has plenty of room for more rabbits and their friends and fans in her pockets now, after summary eviction of teh little godking. Bishonen | talk12:10, 29 October 2007 (UTC).
Maybe you should direct User:MER-C to the WP:SDG. My own deluxe RFA nomination from Sarah was replete with diffs. Athaenara is really wonderful and thorough. Her unfortunate interaction with Justanother is an exception from the rule, but I'll let others present evidence if they wish. At the moment I am very busy with other things. - Jehochman17:11, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
It's not that I don't believe you, but what flummoxes me is that any diff I click on—any one presented in the RFA so far—seems to be an exception to the wonderfulness rule. I hope somebody else will present diffs where the being wonderful manifests itself, because I'm a little weirded out by the strangeness. I'd be glad to support, if I could find a reason to. You know—a reason with diffs. Bishonen | talk18:01, 29 October 2007 (UTC).
The talk:Subtlety thing really gets to my last nerve, I must say, because I've been there. I've been at the computer, having compiled a mass of information from the DNB,Grove Dictionary of ___, whatever web links look useful, and then had someone tell me that the article should be all about X or Y. Well, that's an odd thing to hear, when one is taking such care, but then, of course, "You don't own the article, and I say it should be about what I want it to be about" gets used instead of argument, instead of discussion, instead of compromise, instead of, frankly, cooperative editing, which is supposed to be what we're about. So, when I see something like that, someone who as a regular user would try to bully and bluff to get her way, I wonder what the odds are that, with the block button, she wouldn't invoke an acronymn and block, invoke an acronym and protect, etc. Geogre10:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Long time, John, hi! Are you sure? "Be polite" (on the talkpage) raises a red flag, certainly... but I don't see anything else obvious. Then, admittedly, I stink at this, being as I am a credulous fool. Bishonen | talk21:14, 29 October 2007 (UTC).
Please, whoever you are, I just want to be left alone, and if you check my recent history I am not prone to "edit-warring." I see that you like to edit certain types of articles, I will stay away from what you have been historically editing. I'm focusing on getting some articles up in quality on the project. But I do not like the speculation about who you think I am. I have received some personal threats off-Misplaced Pages, and that is all I am going to say about that. Goodbye. Curt Wilhelm VonSavage21:57, 29 October 2007 (UTC).
Please, I beg of you Bishonen (talk·contribs), kindly ask this other user to leave me alone. If there are any future conflict or concerns, do not hesitate to message my talk page. But at the moment, there is zero "edit warring" or anything of the kind going on, save for my own talk page. Due to my own personal safety issues off-Misplaced Pages and various contacts I have spoken with regarding personal threats, I do not wish to disclose anything at this time. Thank you. Curt Wilhelm VonSavage22:42, 29 October 2007 (UTC).
Yes, please can it, John. There is no rule about disclosing alternative accounts. They only become your business, or mine, if they're used disruptively, for instance to vote twice or to evade the 3RR. Bishonen | talk00:23, 30 October 2007 (UTC).
Indeed. And I consider reverting articles back to preferred versions that are months old to be disruptive. You might recall how quickly (and inappropriately) Smee created all the sock puppet pages for me. Now it seems a different set of rules are requested from said editor.
For the record, I have no intention of creating sock puppet pages, however it's also important that this information be available when the RFA is presented. Over 3000 edits in a single month? Reverting articles to 'preferred' versions?
A quick check of the edit history of this 'new' persona will either reveal someone with an IQ of 2000-3000 (if they can begin editing and produce 3000 edits and be this familiar with the rules in their first month) or someone who is a previously established editor who knows all the ropes. There can be no argument that this is an experienced editor. The rest of the edit patterns, articles, edit comments, and attitude clearly establish the identity. Look at all the 'overlapping' contacts involved. Can you say DYK Barnstar?
The fact that s/he is watching your page (or my edits) is also a bit odd, if it isn't User:Smee re-incarnate. The fact that s/he is watching Smee's page and REVERTED a post within minutes, is also a bit odd for someone who claims that I'm mistaken.
Personally, if I wanted to hide, I'd be HAPPY for someone to come along and mistake me for someone else.. misdirection is a great way to stay hidden. The fact that my suggestion received the reaction that it did, simply adds merit to the claim.
Bishonen (talk·contribs), I got your email, and thank you. I hereby apologize to Lsi john (talk·contribs) for reverting to older versions of articles he had edited, from a version of: "Smee". I cannot go into details but a friend of mine off-Wiki and fellow Wikipedian did indeed receive some threats at her place of work, from someone who she said, and I trust her, had found out her identity on Wiki. This indidivdual called up her employer, and tried to have her fired by complaining about what she was doing online. Needless to say what she had told me was very frightening. This is all I will say about this. Lsi john: I hope you can understand that I am sorry about the reversions to some of the older versions of articles you had edited, under my first contribs here as Curt Wilhelm VonSavage. I will not do this again. But please, I wish you to stop this harassment you are doing. Bishonen has explained why you may feel angry, and I can understand that too, but this is not about anyone avoiding any blocks or anything like that, as you can see we are not debating this from WP:ANI or WP:ANI/3RR or anything like that - you have even made recent reversions to some pages that I had reverted when I first got here as Curt Wilhelm VonSavage - and I have ignored them. This is moreso about private concerns of mine for myself and my friend's identities off-Wiki. I hope you can understand, and you have a right to be angry about those first few reverts/contribs of mine. Yours, Curt Wilhelm VonSavage19:35, 30 October 2007 (UTC).
Inquiry
You available to discuss a matter on IRC? -- Cat 00:31, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I am sorry to have been such a jerk, but there are bigger issues afoot. I did leave Penwhale a clue. If it happens again, you can point to that diff. The reason I was a jerk is that you were laying down sucker tracks for other, clueless admins to follow. - Jehochman10:32, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
"Sucker tracks" are what expert skiers leave behind when they ski a nearly-impossible slope, and then some stupid newbie follows the tracks down and falls off a cliff. - Jehochman10:39, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Dear me, don't give it another thought. You're ascribing too much importance to the whole thing. As for Penwhale, who just shot himself in the other foot (ANI? What ANI? I asked on IRC !), I do believe I could manage a discussion with him without referring to your authority. Bishonen | talk18:26, 1 November 2007 (UTC).
Well, I think you should give it another thought. Bishonen is being far too charitable about this, and, I for one, expected more from you. El_C19:37, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
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