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I think the sentence "The particular usage of Ride of the Valkyries in this scene shows how the piece was perceived by some Americans during the beginning of the 20th century - as the pinnacle of "Aryan" music." should be removed. It is unverifiable and ]. You say "it is certainly safe to say", but this is just your opinion. You have no evidence even to prove that Griffith specifically asked Breil to include this particular piece. I am not saying we should remove all reference to BOAN from the article. I am saying we should remove the unverifiable sentence. --] 23:28, 13 November 2007 (UTC) | :I think the sentence "The particular usage of Ride of the Valkyries in this scene shows how the piece was perceived by some Americans during the beginning of the 20th century - as the pinnacle of "Aryan" music." should be removed. It is unverifiable and ]. You say "it is certainly safe to say", but this is just your opinion. You have no evidence even to prove that Griffith specifically asked Breil to include this particular piece. I am not saying we should remove all reference to BOAN from the article. I am saying we should remove the unverifiable sentence. --] 23:28, 13 November 2007 (UTC) |
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Category:List of military dictatorships in Latin America films
Hi. I've just created a topic at Categories for Discussion proposing that we delete Category:List of military dictatorships in Latin America films. I have explained my reasoning on that page, and wanted to invite you to join the discussion, here. All the best ×Meegs 06:19, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
Ride of the Valkyries
Hi there,
I've stated my point of view on the reference to "Birth Of A Nation" over at Talk:Ride_of_the_Valkyries#Birth_Of_A_Nation. Personally I've never felt that a list of contexts in which a piece has been used is very illuminating as regards telling anything about the piece itself. It also has the potential to become bloated out of all proportion to the material which is actually about the work. Yourself and others may well disagree. By all means reply on the article's talk page; I am quite happy to abide by the consensus. Regards, --Stephen Burnett 07:16, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Constitution
That's a very good question. There are copies of the original 1950 Constitution available online behind subscription walls; many libraries have scanned them in, and technically Google books should have the full version online, as it is public domain. (They don't, though, which is irritating.) I personally use an old copy from the 1950s. I'm sorry I can't help further. Hornplease 04:17, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Ride of the Valkyries - Birth of a Nation
Hello, I should probably provide a better reason for why I removed the content. The statement "perceived by some...as the pinnacle of "Aryan" music." is quite unverifiable, as well as not falsifiable. I strongly believe (having seen BOAN, though not with the original score) that no one would consider the Ride of the Valkyries as a pinnacle of Aryan Music. Other works by Wagner would certainly be more appropriate (eg. Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg, which plainly advocated German Nationalism, and was used as Nazi Propaganda). Ride of the Valkyries is not a serious piece (The Valkyries often laugh out loud during it, as did the audience at a recent production of Walküre that I saw). However, this is all beside the point. If you can source such a claim, then by all means include it.
Regards, --Alexs letterbox 03:31, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for your measured response,
- I think the sentence "The particular usage of Ride of the Valkyries in this scene shows how the piece was perceived by some Americans during the beginning of the 20th century - as the pinnacle of "Aryan" music." should be removed. It is unverifiable and WP:OR. You say "it is certainly safe to say", but this is just your opinion. You have no evidence even to prove that Griffith specifically asked Breil to include this particular piece. I am not saying we should remove all reference to BOAN from the article. I am saying we should remove the unverifiable sentence. --Alexs letterbox 23:28, 13 November 2007 (UTC)