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Hi, please read WP:BLP. You're arguing that a living person is noted for their animal cruelty, when all mentions to it are in reference to his films, and even then, aren't the main part of the articles. I'm just saying he's not mainly known for his animal cruelty, and while mentioning it in the article is all fine, you seem to feel that most people would associate the person with animal cruelty, which simply isn't the case. Please find a source that specifically states that he's a well-known and noted animal abuser if you're going to claim that in an encyclopedia article, otherwise, please be careful in your wording when it comes to biographies of living people. Thanks. - Bobet (talk) 16:11, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Your comments are pretty valid, when you put it like that, I guess he is known for his movies, and not animal cruelty. Unless that situation changes, I think I would be a little silly if I changed that article again.Sennen goroshi (talk) 16:00, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

uh ok

Could you please not post on my page? The edits you are talking about were not even me (example, the FOAD, i dunno what that even means). As for saying ``BS``, there is isn`t any protocol for notes for deleting unsolicted opinions on my own talk page. Please refrain from posting there unless you have something constructive to mention, cheers CJ DUB (talk) 04:46, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I "could" refrain from posting on your page, however when you are making comments that imply my edits are "BS" I don't think I will. And before you start denying that you made comments such as "FOAD" it might be a good idea to remember that your comments/summaries are all archived.Sennen goroshi (talk) 12:37, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't care if you delete my comments, or if you make edits that have content that I don't agree with, just watch your tone while on wikipedia.Sennen goroshi (talk) 05:02, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

RE FOAD: Oh yeah that one. That was FOUR MONTHS AGO! That user was warned by wikipedia as well as by me to stop posting incessant messages on my on my page, re: his love for Dominic Hasek. I was getting one every day. Maybe you should follow the whole thread before you comment. Also, what business is it of yours to police incidental conflicts on wikipedia, that have NOTHING to do with you? I have been writing articles forever, and i happen to be a ruthless, unbiased editor when it comes to fancruft on wikipedia, as per wiki mandate. I just get tired of dealing with little 12 yo's all the time. Finally, don't insert comments into the middle of discussions on my talk page. CJ DUB (talk) 16:20, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

please remain civil. Sennen goroshi (talk) 16:47, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Hey buddy, I had a look at YOUR user page and history; it seems like maybe you shouldn't be the one lecturing me on civility, facts, editing. You have quite a history of making abusive edits and bigoted slurs, especially against Korean pages and koreans. Let me know how your banning goes. Love, CJ DUB (talk) 16:54, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

A response on your recent message

Sennen goroshi, I found you just have joined the club along with your friends, Keyngez Keyngez and Jjk82 Jjk82, in which people who like to change and add contents in all Korea=related articles in a disruptive way.

First of all, upon your remark on your recent revision on the South Korea article, you said to me that the leave the contents supported with your so-called justifiable references and try to argue with some positive contents. I will tell you what. First, your idea telling the references you are urging that they cover the disruptive contents so firmly in a rational way is just merely your own opinion. Those references, mostly cited from news papers, were just topics introducing a small part of society. It is you and your seemingly friend, Jjk82, who draw the disruptive conclusions about the characters of South Korean society. You and your friend cannot generalize the society with small cases with aggresive attitude.

Let's say this way. For instance, last time I saw the news article referring a psychopathic Japanese lady killer who poisoned and killed children with no certain reasons. Can I bring and cite the news to Japan article here in Misplaced Pages and urge most Japanese ladies have a tendency to kill children? Absolutely not accepatble, right?

In addition, I have lots of articles referring to poverty and starved-to-death homeless persons in Tokyo, Japan, as well as the news article telling the full of hatred toward foreigners and foreign workers by Japanese people. Do you want me to generalize and define the characters of Japanese in the Japan article here in Misplaced Pages by quoting those articles? I can start it rightnow as you guys have done to the South Korea article, but I am a rational person.

Why don't you do some positive contribution to your Japanese-related articles, rather than spending your times on disrupting Korea-realetd articles in Wikipedua. I also found that you have a history to argue with other Korean fellow, and you harrassed him by saying unacceptable words. Please be courteous to other Wikiusers.Patriotmissile (talk) 15:47, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

3RR

You have violated the three-revert rule on Article. Any administrator may now choose to block your account. In the future, please make an effort to discuss your changes further, instead of edit warring.

Sennen goroshi, you are currently engaged in a 3RR situation on the South Korea article, so please behave in a good manner. Please spend your precious times on positive contributions, rather making disruptive ones.Patriotmissile (talk) 16:09, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

huh? i made one edit. what part of making one edit, is breaking the 3RR?Sennen goroshi (talk) 16:43, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Here's a simple answer to your question, Sennen goroshi . You just reverted the contents to the certain version, which has been reverted mutiple times by your friendly user, Jjk82, and also judged to be disruptive by administrators. That issue has already settled down before you brought it again on purpose. In terms of series of disruptive reversion in article, you just have violated 3RR rule, I think. Now do you understand the reason why put it to you?Patriotmissile (talk) 17:40, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Patriotmissile, Do not threaten users with a block if they are not in clear violation of WP:3RR. I do not see where Sennen has broken the policy, this can be considered incivility. Anyone is free to revert pages atleast once unless the revert is restoring pure vandalism. In the future refrain from warning for 3RR unless the editor has reverted a page OVER 3 times, that is how 3RR works. Furthermore, in the future, you may wish to leave a handwritten note other then using templates when notifying an established editor. Sennen goroshi knows wiki policy and how to edit properly and within the lines of these policies, there is no reason to leave warning templates on his talk page, this can be viewed as saying he is stupid or a new user. Thanks. SpigotMap 18:58, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

:::: Hmmm Thank you for your instruction. I will follow your recommendation, SpigotMap. Well however, the user user:Sennen goroshi has made settle-downed issue iterated on purpose. In terms of the ultimate purpose of 3RR rule, user:Sennen goroshi has just violated it.Patriotmissile (talk) 19:11, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

If Sennen Goroshi has violated the 3RR that is fine. As far as my history, that is in the past. As far as Sennen reverting his page and removing warnings? That is perfectly acceptable, do not claim 3RR or make accusations about removing warnings, he has every right to do whatever he wants to his talk page. SpigotMap 20:22, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Of course he would want to delete all this. Everything here can be a basis for his own downfall. Bringing in anti-Korean bias and attempting to insert a bigot filled section in South Korea is in my opinion very incivil. Take your bias elsewhere and edit neutrally here. Its clear that your opinion about Korea is conflicting with many editors here. Good friend100 (talk) 20:43, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

This is getting a little stupid, please don't use my talk page to attack me, and what I think is far worse, please don't use my talk page to attack SpigotMap, he came here to try to stop the problems we are having, and does not deserve to get your personal insults. I read every message that is put on my talk page, if I think the message should stay - it stays, if I don't see the need for it to stay - it gets deleted. End of story. Thanks for the help SpigotMap, it's nice to see decent editors like you on wikipedia, Goodfriend/CJ DUB, don't waste my time please. Sennen goroshi (talk) 03:57, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

No problem :D. I'm glad to put whatever problems we had in the past behind us. I wish people would learn policy before they start pushing points and pushing POV. SpigotMap 04:03, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Policy is important, as is sorting out whatever problems one editor might have with another. I have had numerous content issues with editors. Most of them have either proven to me that they are correct, accepted that I am correct, or we have asked for a 3rd opinion. Whatever the outcome of the problems, we have remained civil and after the dust settles, we are on good terms. That is the way you and I dealt with out differences - like adults not children. The only problem is the 1% of editors who cry like little kids when you quote policy to them, or revert their edits. I don't mind the differences of opinion, I just get annoyed with whining editors who make such a fuss when they don't like my edits. Anyway, time for work - laters Sennen goroshi (talk) 04:16, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

CJ DUB

oh well....as CJ DUB seems to be a little reluctant to allow my comments to remain, they might as well sit on my talk page, in all their glory.

Could you please not post on my page? The edits you are talking about were not even me (example, the FOAD, i dunno what that even means). As for saying ``BS``, there is isn`t any protocol for notes for deleting unsolicted opinions on my own talk page. Please refrain from posting there unless you have something constructive to mention, cheers CJ DUB (talk) 04:46, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

You are right, there are no rules regarding you deleting comments on your own talk page, I delete comments myself, as and when I feel the need. However, there certainly are rules regarding civility, you must remain civil at all times, that includes your edits, your edit summaries, and even the edit summaries on your own talk page.

FOAD is a well known explicit insult, and the edit was talking about was quite obviously made by you, as it was posted from your account 02:05, 21 August 2007 CJ DUB (Talk | contribs) m (5,351 bytes) (foad) (undo) it is highly unlikely that you were unaware of the meaning of the term FOAD, the chances of you typing 4 random letters and coming up with a well known insult is close to zero.

I don't care if you delete my comments, or if you make edits that have content that I don't agree with, just watch your tone while on wikipedia.Sennen goroshi (talk) 05:02, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

RE FOAD: Oh yeah that one. That was FOUR MONTHS AGO! That user was warned by wikipedia as well as by me to stop posting incessant messages on my on my page, re: his love for Dominic Hasek. I was getting one every day. Maybe you should follow the whole thread before you comment. Also, what business is it of yours to police incidental conflicts on wikipedia, that have NOTHING to do with you? I have been writing articles forever, and i happen to be a ruthless, unbiased editor when it comes to fancruft on wikipedia, as per wiki mandate. I just get tired of dealing with little 12 yo's all the time. Finally, don't insert comments into the middle of discussions on my talk page. CJ DUB (talk) 16:20, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

please remain civil. Sennen goroshi (talk) 16:47, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Hey buddy, I had a look at YOUR user page and history; it seems like maybe you shouldn't be the one lecturing me on civility, facts, editing. You have quite a history of making abusive edits and bigoted slurs, especially against Korean pages and koreans. Let me know how your banning goes. Love, CJ DUB (talk) 16:54, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Hey buddy, thanks for taking such an interest in my talk page and my edits, I'm flattered. If I notice a bandwagon anywhere near me, would you like me to notify you, so that you can jump on it? and thanks so much for the love, love from one man to another man is so nice, see you later, love and kisses Sennen goroshi (talk) 04:25, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

You have violated the three-revert rule on User talk:Sennen goroshi. Any administrator may now choose to block your account. In the future, please make an effort to discuss your changes further, instead of edit warring.
Well done, removing my comments and User:Appletrees warnings, have resulted in you breaking the 3RR on your own talk page. the next step is a report filed on the admin's noticeboard and you being blocked. CJ DUB (talk) 18:27, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/3RR#Exceptions

reverts performed by a user within his or her own user page, user subpages, provided that such reverts do not restore copyright violations, libelous material, WP:BLP violations, or other kinds of inappropriate content enumerated in this policy or elsewhere Sennen goroshi (talk) 05:18, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

14:37, 26 November 2007 CJ DUB (Talk | contribs) (2,730 bytes) (rem of hateful material by User:Sennen goroshi) (undo)

hmmmm and what exactly was the hateful material that I placed on your talk page? shall we find out?

::: Hey buddy, thanks for taking such an interest in my talk page and my edits, I'm flattered. If I notice a bandwagon anywhere near me, would you like me to notify you, so that you can jump on it? and thanks so much for the love, love from one man to another man is so nice, see you later, love and kisses Sennen goroshi (talk) 04:25, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

reverts performed by a user within his or her own user page, user subpages, provided that such reverts do not restore copyright violations, libelous material, WP:BLP violations, or other kinds of inappropriate content enumerated in this policy or elsewhere Sennen goroshi (talk) 05:18, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

well that is about as hateful as a carebear.Sennen goroshi (talk) 15:07, 26 November 2007 (UTC)