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The Joker

Eric! I was pleased to see your message on my talk board. How are you? Hey, by the way, I didn't coin "verifibullies"...I did "ErikBigNolePedia". :) I'm glad that it has critical commentary. I think that page was missing something without SOME image of The Joker on it. It just felt naked without it. The editing is going great. My "The Hire" page got upgraded to a "B" status! :) I think it needs some pics to illustrate it a bit but I'm not good at making tables or providing rationale. Anyway...that's how it's goin'. I hope you're well, my friend! TabascoMan77 00:40, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

That's for damn sure! There's so much I want to contribute but I only have so much willpower to sit at my computer and type this stuff. "The Hire" was a pet project of mine because there wasn't much info about it on the page and I wanted to make newcomers (and veterans) of the series feel like there was more to the series than just overlong BMW commercials. I WISH I had print sources everything I wrote but, as it turns out, I'm not sure there was much mention in print because it was an online, word-of-mouth movie series. Fittingly, everything written about it happened to be online instead of in the paper or the trades. I'm sure that if I had access to LexusNexus or what have you, I could source that stuff. Your page for Body of Lies is lookin' good, as usual. You have a real niche for this stuff. I'll do what my old parents do and just randomly assign you a career based on your hobbies: "You should be a journalist!" :) My edits for Marc Ecko are also fairly intact. I did the Barry Bonds bit. I also revamped Miami Vice (2006) but I'm having problems with a user who keeps coming in and re-editing the entire article repeatedly. What he does is he vandalizes by posting the exact opposites of everything said in the article. For example, if a sentence reads, "Michael Mann had problems keep control of his set and his actors were upset with him," he posts, "Michael Mann had NO problems keeping control of his set and all his actors praised his attitude." So on and so forth. On his talk page, he's been warned to stop vandalizing but, who knows. I can't do any better than warn him, myself. That's how it's going with me! I promise, that if I ever make edits to "The Dark Knight", they will be intelligent ones. You're doing a great job, Eric. TabascoMan77 01:17, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Did you see this?  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 01:49, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I saw your note, yes, I agree. ThuranX (talk) 21:55, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Films November 2007 Newsletter

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??? Less?

Well, I must say my first reaction to your message was a little bit of anger. I spent quite some time trying to fill in the extremely poor plot summary for Sunshine, and next thing I know I have someone saying they didn't really appreciate my contribution. This is the first time this has happened to me, but there has been other BS on wikipedia which has made me think twice about making contributions in the past.

However, this is more or less a "last straw" scenario.

I can read the section you quoted for me. It clearly states but should not exceed 900 words unless there is a specific reason such as a complicated plot. IT SAYS NOTHING ABOUT MINIMAL. I don't know if you are some kind of overbearing martinet who likes to "control" things or you simply did not like my edit, but when I read the guidelines for Misplaced Pages's plot summary sections, I didn't see anything but the word "should be" which meant where possible - and that is not the case here IMO.

The plot summary for Sunshine was both lacking certain details and in some ways deceptive - it was certainly highly deficient. Sunshine is not a simple, straightforward film that can be summarized in the 600 words (and that is nothing more than a SUGGESTION) - the evidence was clear from the weaknesses of the summary that was there. There were numerous plot/filming points which are mentioned on other portions of the page that made no sense to anyone who had not actually seen the film due to missing information in the plot summary.

Obviously, I must have stepped on your toes on some pet project that you feel belongs to you. I noticed you have numerous edits in the history of the page. You have an idea in your head that there is some "rule" that must be followed, and I don't agree with you - that is not my interpretation of the section you quoted. Popping onto my user page to tell me I've done something wrong because you feel you have some kind of ownership of a page is outrageous - and you didn't even make any expression of THANKS for improving the section.

So - the answer is no. I won't go back and cut back on the summary. It is within the guidelines and breaks no rules. If you want to muddle it up by removing salient points to make it like it was, knock yourself out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CokeBear (talk • contribs) 23:10, November 30, 2007 (UTC)

If people are curious about my response. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 23:19, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Fight Club

I really don't know, but it's coming along fantastically. Let me know when you want to go to FA. Obviously the lead needs a rewrite, but I think you've improved there. Alientraveller 22:29, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Awesome work on Fight Club. I thought I'd tell you that I came across the MOS for quoting, and it states it follows the "logical" method, which is placing the punctuation on the outside of the quotation--unless it is part of the quote itself. I was glancing over FC and noticed there were portions of text quoted and the period was placed inside the quote marks. I think this slips be FACs because most editors probably follow the general American style, which is punctuation on the inside.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 00:43, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, according to the MOS, encyclopedias use it because it's "more accurate", or something like that. Are you going to keep the track list from the CD in the article? I've only scanned the article, so I don't have any specific complaints...but it certainly looks good from what I can see. I'm anticipating the FAC--when you've finished all you're going to do with the article--I think this one is already at the point that it is set up to be the best film article we have.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 00:56, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

I was under the impression that you usually only have 1 infobox in an article. I mean, since it basically contains what's in the prose next to it--or probably should--it really isn't necessary. As for the track listing, I'm not sure of their relevance, unless there were issues with specific songs, which would warrant mentioning. A simple Amazon search will give you the track listings and usually a sample of each track. How large are you hoping to make this article?  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 01:16, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

No, I never looked at the others. Did you want me to?  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 01:25, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

I'll certainly put it on the list. This week is my last "real" week of school, and I have two papers and a group presentation due, so it could be that I won't get to it till next week. I'll try and watch both of the other commentaries--guess I better get another legal pad ;).  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 02:05, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

It is looking very good. I just found the second paragraph a bit meh without any real focus or anything that would interest a reader. More specific things like shooting locations would be worthy of a lead. I think the themes and the critical reaction is certainly more important. Alientraveller 12:12, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Find your focus through deciding how one would define the film's production. Perhaps it would be good to merge the second paragraph with the third because themes is really dependent on how one creates the film. That info on Norton losing weight while Pitt got more fancy could go in either casting or themes really. Alientraveller 16:38, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

LMAO, that IP was right..LOL. I wonder if I'm on it for real, or if they just knew about it and said I was on it for show. Wow, we actually have a CABAL..lol. I guess that page should read, "There is no CABAL, except when there's a CABAL".  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 23:09, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah. I'm not worried if I'm on it. I mean, I admit that I lose my cool with people sometimes, and it isn't right, but I don't believe I do anything that is actually worthy of blockage--except maybe being caught up in edit wars. Anyway, I'm going to try and do those commentaries for you here soon. I have two take home exams that I need to do, and after that I'm all done.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 23:36, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Right now, I'd say what immediately comes to mind would be cultural impact of the Friday the 13th series. It's the one section I know will be the hardest to attain, and I know you have a knack for finding some obscure, but really good articles on films. But don't worry about till I get atleast one of the commentaries done.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 23:55, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Luther Stickell (Mission: Impossible Film Character)

Just wanted you to know that I created my very first article. It's about Ethan Hunt's partner-in-crime from the Mission: Impossible movies, Luther Stickell. Take a look and let me know how you like it. :) TabascoMan77 00:34, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

That's exactly the advice I needed. I was looking for a good character page to learn from. Those two are perfect to study from. :) TabascoMan77 00:49, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

I was thinking of asking BigNole about that, too. This is my first time creating an article regarding anything so I'm just free-forming. This was just me jotting things down and then organizing it. I wanted the bits about him in each movie to be shorter but that was really the shortest I could come up with. Also, I think I want to add the types of technology used in the movies by Luther.TabascoMan77 00:58, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

I own all 3 M:I movies and I think the one I need commentary for the most would be #1. If I am not mistaken Ving Rhames used an Apple Powerbook 540c and the rest of the cast used the (then-new) 5300c. I think they also used an IBM ThinkPad in there someplace. I just have to do some more research. I see how the Voorhees and Sparrow articles are aligned and I wouldn't mind following that format...except, like you said, there isn't much context to Luther. I would hope that JJ Abrams has something to add about his character. Even reading the script at "script-o-rama.com" doesn't shed much light on his character. What I will do is listen to John Woo and JJ Abrams speak about their movies and see if I can pull anything useful out their commentary. If I can't do that, I'm gonna have to resort to researching the character. TabascoMan77 01:20, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Erik, thanks for ALL the suggestions for the Luther article. I had found the "Color Monitors" essay before I started but couldn't find anything more than the first paragraph. That page REALLY helps me out because that was the page I was looking for to put some good sources in. I'm also gonna scout the other articles and listen to the two commentary tracks I have. I wish Brian DePalma did commentary for the first movie. That would really help me out. TabascoMan77 00:02, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

MST3K RS

I found this apparent interview with a guy who worked on the MST3K film Zombie Nightmare. Does it look like a reliable enough source for the artice? --Lenin and McCarthy | (Complain here) 02:07, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Does it look GA quality, or should I not even bother trying to use it?" --Lenin and McCarthy | (Complain here) 02:13, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Fight Club in popular culture

I have userfied the article and included a copy of the article history on the talk page per the guidelines recommendations. Let me know if you need anything else, and I hope that helps you continue to improve the article for FA status. By the way, congrats on the new GA. --Nehrams2020 03:18, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Hitman

An editor has made it his mission to include the trivia on the Hitman movie article. I'de appreciate you're help, as I can no longer revert. DurinsBane87 03:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Maybe do what I do; defuse the need to include it by move it to discussion pending citation. Noting that it cannot return to the article without citation will either make them jump up and seek citation (and if they cannot find it, it isn't your fault) or it will give you a handfy-made excuyse for directing them to the discussion page to talk and learn why uncited info cannot be there. Just my two pence

300 & Valkyrie

I really want to see it be in the main space, and silly nonsense like insisting on revisionist history isn't going to help that happen. I guess i don't understand Agha. I see that he's capable of doing good work, and cannot fathom his missing the forest for the trees problem in the 300 article. Apparently, he got tired of having me counter his proposals; he filed a wikiquette alert about my behavior in the article over six months ago. I think he just altered it slightly from the super-duper-secret RfC sub-page he kept threatening to file, and maybe thinks that no one is going to notice his bad behavior then or now.

After the DG thing ended so stupidly (and really, there's no other way to describe how it was finally dealt with), I am kinda burned out on even trying to get these uncivil folk blocked/banned/whatever; its a lot of effort to see someone jsut sock themselves a new account and go right back at it. DG's workin' my last nerve though; he might be almost worth a return to ArbCom Enforcement.

I'll be there for Valkyrie, though. I think it is going to be a monstrous Heaven's Gate-like flop. Speaking of films, what did you think of Beowulf and American Gangster? - Arcayne () 07:04, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Talk:2008 in film

Are you sure you don't wanna comment on "I tagged the article a lot."? Surely you are a movie fan, and must have something to say about it. TheBlazikenMaster 19:19, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Great. I have tried submitting something there before, but I got a message that it will take over week or so for it to be added, there might be someone behind that's checking the additions. But yeah, I agree. News sites are way more trusted than IMDB. By news sites, I mean REAL news sites, not ones made by some random guy that just digs random news out of his brain. TheBlazikenMaster 19:47, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Here is something completely irrelevant to Misplaced Pages, but there is no other way to get the info. Do you have a YouTube account? If so what is it? Mine is BlazikenMaster, and I have some interesting blog videos. I've heard you're mute, that's too bad because all my blogs use speech. ITheBlazikenMaster 20:18, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that's exactly what I meant, sorry for the dumb choice of word. And yes all my blogs are of myself, otherwise they wouldn't be blogs would they? I suggest you get a YouTube account if you wanna continue the discussion as Misplaced Pages isn't a chatroom. TheBlazikenMaster 20:22, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't remember, but I did read the older stuff in your achieves, and am still doing it. I always read all discussions on the pages I wanna watch because Misplaced Pages is for knowledge. The more I read on talk pages, the more revisions I read, the more I know of the subject, (or the user in your case) get my point? TheBlazikenMaster 20:27, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh and I hope you can read online lips, because there are a lot of interesting things I discuss in my videos. TheBlazikenMaster 20:28, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Speak of the devil with false information: King Kong Vs. Jaws. Alientraveller (talk) 22:43, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Ah well, it's been deleted. Come on, a land animal versus a sea animal? Seriously.

By the way, can you keep an eye on Bond 22? It appears some people are trying to censor Max von Sydow's mention of Blofeld appearing. Not that I'm complaining: I read the three Fleming novels with that character recently and I'd love that tale of revenge for killing Bond's one true love on screen (this time Vesper, not Tracy). Alientraveller (talk) 22:52, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Aw man, speaking of monster mashes, what are your views on Cloverfield? While interesting, I got a feeling people will just be dissapointed: it's not like we'll get a good look at the monster.

Oh, and the Prince Caspian trailer was fantastic. It's strange though to see Georgie Henley with long hair. Alientraveller (talk) 22:55, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

I like Star Trek, and I think it's a good idea to reboot the series, because the whole backstory of superhumans like Khan being created in the 1990s was dating it a bit. I haven't done much work on the article because I don't really know much about their approach to it, the production design, inspirations etc. It's not like Transformers, because that I knew Spielberg, Rob Orci and Alex Kurtzman wanted it to make it about Bumblebee and Sam and the constant leakage of designs of the robots. I look forward to seeing what the Enterprise looks like, and maybe Romulans too, because Nero (Eric Bana's villain) sounds like a Romulan name. Alientraveller (talk) 17:41, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

(Considering it's out in January over here) I'm really looking forward to I Am Legend. I read the Mark Protosevich script and it was really interesting, and so after I see the movie I think I'll go read the book. Which is always the case really with me, because I'm more of a movie person, and books are like an extended edition in terms of encyclopeadic interest of real-world creation. I think the only time I specifically read the book I'd never heard of because of a film adaptation were Lemony Snicket and Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. I don't tend to worry about spoilers with adaptations, because I like surprises in depiction rather than actual story. But films like The Prestige, where the reason I see it because of the twist rather than a giant monster, I'd rather not be aware of. Alientraveller (talk) 17:56, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Speaking of monsters, wow, Phil Tippett is doing Cloverfield? Seriously, we all just wanna see that new beastie. Alientraveller (talk) 18:16, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Jurassic Park IV (2009)

Hi

I know what you're trying to say, but the producer said that they will try to release it by that time. It hardly seems likely to be released next year (2008) because of the WGA strike. Also, who's to say the other films aren't also going to be delayed. We don't know this. Thanks, anyway. Please keep it there, or move it to 2010 or something. However, I understand if you remove it. Thanks anyway, --EclipseSSD (talk) 18:07, 6 December 2007 (UTC).

Fight Club CE

Hi there!

This is regarding the Fight Club film article and the LOCE request. Looking at the length, the organization, and the list of references (!), I'd say this article has got a lot of potential (FAC?). I'd love to work with you to ce it, but I see a few users have already begun on it. So the questions are these:

1. IYO does the article still require a CE?
2. If so, what sections have been already reviewed, and which sections still need attention?
3. And if yes to question 1, the final question is whether you would be available throughout the ce process (for feedback and info/source/nuance clarification).

Thanks!

--Malachirality (talk) 19:38, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

• I'll get started on it soonish (but probably not for a few days) then, starting with the section after plot. Be warned though, that this is a copyedit only, so my "expert opinion" is limited to grammar, usage, style, and punctuation--not the actual subject matter (I know enough for a ce though). And thanks for communicating so promptly; these things go much better when there's a main author to talk to. --Malachirality (talk) 01:05, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Good call

Good call on the Jaws/King Kong madness. Takes a man to do that. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 21:47, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I concur: you have the patience of a saint. Alientraveller (talk) 21:56, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Even Jesus lost his temper. But sometimes you just have to let off some steam, recouperate and make sure you didn't make a civility violation or say sorry. You gotta remember these are real people or else you become the troll, the person who treats it as a game. Alientraveller (talk) 22:05, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Based on nothing more but my own gut feeling, I would think that a 10% divergence would be enough for a separate cream of the crop entry (I think Batman Begins must have levelled out since you last looked at its entry: 84% vs. 82%; creditable scores for any film, let alone a superhero one). I can sort of see the guy's point about explaining the ratings. I suppose if I'd never heard of Rotten Tomatoes or Metacritic before, I'd be a smidgeon confused until reading their respective entries, and so it probably doesn't hurt to keep the short descriptions. Best regards, Liquidfinale 16:38, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

"Oh crap" indeed. That could present some problems. As you say, No Country for Old Men has pretty much the same rating in both countries, but there's no guarantee other films will have. The Batman Begins entry shines a torch onto the problem; the film was released over two years ago and they haven't upped all the reviews yet? I wonder what it's like in the other territories. When it comes up again, I suppose we have three options: 1) pick the territory of the film's first release; 2) pick the territory of the film's origin; 3) pick the territory with the greatest number of reviews. Thoughts? Liquidfinale 21:11, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

I've tried half a dozen films, both new and a few years old, and each has been identical (right down to the number of reviews counted) on both the UK and US pages, so it may be nothing to worry about after all. Batman Begins is obviously just some freakish anomaly. Probably best if we just monitor the situation; checking both versions during the initial add to an article and playing it by ear if there's divergence. Also, I'm right about the gerund on Fight Club, but it's not worth arguing about; I suspect the 'correct' way would read oddly to 90% of readers and it'd end up getting changed back on a daily basis. Best regards, Liquidfinale 01:27, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

No, I'm never 100% sure about anything :). But "discouraging" is a gerund isn't it? i.e. the verb "to discourage" warped into behaving like a noun? "My discouraging a film adaptation"; "his discouraging a film adaptation"; "Erik's discouraging a film adaptation"; therefore: "a reader's discouraging a film adaptation"? It's very ugly, but does seem right. Liquidfinale 01:59, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. I've haven't yet fallen foul of WP:3RR during my time here, so I perhaps haven't paid enough attention to counting my reverts. I'll make sure I keep an eye out. Thanks again, Liquidfinale 22:03, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Gah, only this morning I told an editor "to think of Misplaced Pages not as an outlet for any real-world anger or annoyance, but as an escape from it. Taking a few seconds to read an intended edit summary or talk page comment back to yourself can make all the difference to how you're perceived" and then I go and leave an irate message for TheGoonSquad in response to a snarky (but ultimately inconsequential) comment from him on my talk page.. Your advice to him was much more constructive, and I'll do well to follow suit in the future. Liquidfinale 20:36, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Underworld 3

You tell me on my page, that underworld 3 is not comeing out in 2010? Can you tell where it comeing out. Most sites on google said it comeing out on 2010. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.191.91.213 (talk) 23:41, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Choke

Hey, thanks for keeping me updated. :) —Viriditas | Talk 09:27, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (film)

On the most recent edits, I reverted Helpsloose because it wasn't mentioned in the article. Could you be involved in this? I really think you agree that it should be mentioned in the article, I didn't wanna start dumb edit war, and I'm way too tired to start a discussion on the movie talk page, so I came to you. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 01:35, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

World's Finest

Actually, i think it's not so much a post- World's Finest relationship, but a more intelligent exploration and continuation of it. All of the issues (from both Batman's and Superman's private reflections on the other) refer to their previous and long-term experiences with one another. - Arcayne () 02:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Actually, the term 'World's Finest' is recurrent in the Superman/Batman series, and the term is utilized in the article for the current series. However, that's rather beside the point. The origins of the Midnighter (and Apollo) are found not in the more current series but in the older series as a different interpretation of the dynamic between two such characters. As well, the reference in the Midnighter article is used as an identifier for the Batman/Superman pairing, and not explored beyond that; the wikilink for the term explains the pairing in more depth. - Arcayne () 02:47, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, a compromise in the matter was already reached prior to your suggestion. I am not sure that a see also would be appropriate for the Midnighter article, as the article is indeed about the Midnighter. As well, such a wikilink would seem non-useful in the World's Finest or Superman/Batman articles - Arcayne () 03:19, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Critical reception sections

Sorry I didn't notice your comment on my talk page you sent 12 days ago. I did add the critical quotes to the Eastern Promises and The Brave One (2007 film) articles. I also expanded the reception sections on The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, 3:10 to Yuma (2007 film), Superbad (film), Next (film), Enough, Mr. Bean's Holiday, Jackass: The Movie, No End in Sight, The Ex (2007 film), and The King of Kong: A Fistful of Quarters. On The Ex (2007 film), I focused more on finding similar sentiments seen in multiple reviews and I wrote prose and cited the reviews. I really haven't added quotes lately. I've got people telling me that they're too long or that we can't quote so much. It just takes too long to put together and I'm not really seeing the benefit. Which 10 or so critics to cite out of 140? If we link to a review aggregator, readers can find reviews there. I do think that terms like "fresh", "rotten", and "metascore" should be avoided. Many readers don't know what they mean, and those terms might even be trademarked. I noticed there was some confusion over those terms at The Golden Compass article. The terms could be wikilinked and be redirects to Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic, but I just find it easier to say "X% of critics gave the film positive reviews based on Y reviews" when speaking of Rotten Tomatoes and say "the film received an average score of X out of 100 based on Y reviews" when speaking of Metacritic. I liked the work you did on Surf Ninjas. I'm impressed. :) --Pixelface (talk) 15:16, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Tangential to this critical reception talk, Erik, I know you tend to frown on "Book vs. film" type sections (and with good cause; most are nothing but original research), but I came across this earlier today and wondered if it might come in useful in your work on The Mist article. I haven't actually read it (I want to remain unspoiled), but it's from The AV Club blog section, and while I know blogs are not generally accepted as sources here, often The AV Club's can be more accurately described as a series of bona fide articles from their principal reviewers. Anyway, maybe it'll be useful. Best regards, Liquidfinale 00:10, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Dragonball

I'm becoming confused. Both Variety and THR reported the film would began filming last month, but it's not listed in THR's production listings, either domestic or international. We have the Mexican newspaper discussing a January start, but this could mean location filming. Your two cents? Should I just trust the trades' announcement and unmerge? Alientraveller (talk) 15:35, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

I got a funny feeling this project might get delayed: it's coming out on August 15 afterall. Unless Fox really want to rush this project. Alientraveller (talk) 17:18, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Cute technical jazz. Thanks for uploading the smaller Skull poster. Man, doesn't it look so cool? It's lovely so many oldtimers from the trilogy like Steven, George, Harrison, Frank, Kathleen, Michael Kahn and Drew Struzan are back, but I feel so melachony Connery, Rhys-Davies, Denholm Elliott, Ben Burtt and Douglas Slocombe aren't making the return trip. I hope the VFX supervisor is also an oldtimer. Still, should be an awesome ride for all us Indy fans. Alientraveller (talk) 17:45, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes please. The other LA Times cite has also timed out for me. Alientraveller (talk) 20:08, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Cloverfield

It is? Thanks for telling me! Do you know who created it?--Cojin (talk) 21:20, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

It seems like it's gonna be some type of whale type beast though. When looking through the Slusho site they say something about whales.--Cojin (talk) 21:23, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

What's the deal with those Viral sites anyway? How do they really promote a film? By giving it an aura of mystery?--Cojin (talk) 21:26, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Future films department...

...is now on the project sidebar and in the new announcements section. Just thought you'd want to know! :) Regards, Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 03:26, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Another thing I thought might be a good task for the department would be to go over all of the Future-Class articles and create a list of release dates for all of the films which have them - this will then give a worklist for when to reassign a normal class. New additions could easily be tracked through Special:Recentchangeslinked/Category:Future-Class film articles, which means that after the initial heavy lifting of compiling the list, maintaining it will be much easier. I only suggest all this because it seems that the Future tag often is not lifted upon release of recent Hollywood films, much less the many foreign films which don't get as much attention from most English-speaking editors. What are your thoughts? Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 06:18, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Replied on my talk page. Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 06:31, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! I wasn't really aware of Google Alerts, but I've set a few up now and I'm certain they'll be useful (though if there's even a scrap of information anywhere I don't already have about State of Play, I'll be very surprised). It's also good to see Future Films is up and running now; hopefully we can set a standard with that which other editors will follow, especially with regard to WP:NF. Best regards, Liquidfinale 10:25, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Future movies

Hello, I want to get an advice about future movies. Can you name me all reliable sites? Because I really wanna know of good reliable sites that give good info about movies, and is edited by professionals. Do you know of such site? I would appreciate if you named me more than one, thanks. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 21:16, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

NOR Request for arbitration

Because of your participation in discussions relating to the "PSTS" model in the No original research article, I am notifying you that a request for arbitration has been opened here. I invite you to provide a statement encouraging the Arbcom to review this matter, so that we can settle it once and for all. COGDEN 00:00, 13 December 2007 (UTC)