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Satanism is a religion.... BM is not anti-religious. Satanism is a religion.... BM is not anti-religious.



Black metal IS anti-religious. What is black metal without it's idealogy? Anything in black metal which isn't anti-judeo-christianity isn't black metal, or you just don't hear anything on the subject at all. Also Shane, I've fixed the intro and idealogy section - please don't revert anything without telling me why. Or just don't revert anything cos now the relevant sections of the article pwn ;) ] 21:37, 17 June 2007 (UTC) Black metal IS anti-religious. What is black metal without it's idealogy? Anything in black metal which isn't anti-judeo-christianity isn't black metal, or you just don't hear anything on the subject at all. Also Shane, I've fixed the intro and idealogy section - please don't revert anything without telling me why. Or just don't revert anything cos now the relevant sections of the article pwn ;) ] 21:37, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
You tell them, I'm with you. Black Metal is dangerous, and not anti-religious, but solely anti-christian, which is far worse. You tell them, I'm with you. Black Metal is dangerous, and not anti-religious, but solely anti-christian, which is far worse.

I might say that Black Metal has evolved into other lyrical approach in these days. Of course the lyrics still tell anti-religious themes, but the evolution's is clear.
And about Satanism, please, Anton LaVey himself said that Satanism is not a new kind of religion, but a life style (or philosophy, as you wish to call it).
Another thing to have in mind is that Satanism in Black Metal lyrics are apart of Satanism told by Church of Satan or any other line of Satanism, except for those who believes that Satan is a kind of entity. ]


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Photograph of North Brookfield, Massachusetts from the air

Please be advised that the photo I added to the North Brookfield article was NOT vandalism, especially considering the cost of aviation fuel. I would appreciate if if you do NOT delete my work again. You can't just grab the last part of the article that YOU edited and save it to get rid of subsequent vandalism. Much additional work is often done in addition to the trivial vandalism. You need to REVIEW the edits before you revert them, PLEASE! --LymanSchool 00:39, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Okay. BTW, your work on the North Bookfield official page is outstanding. --LymanSchool 12:36, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Black metal

Hi,

I know you didn't say that all BM bands condone burning churches, it was simply an illustration that not all bands are equally concerned with that kind of criticism. Sorry about the confusion. However, a sentence such as "black metal has met with considerable criticism" could be concerned a weasel word, and you at least need to say from whom the criticism comes from. I changed "criticism" to "hostility" because I think it's more accurate; many people are hostile to extreme metal genres without having any actual criticism aginst it. Therefore hostility is more widespread than criticism.

Lastly, you seem to think that all BM bands are "hateful and anti-religious"... This is obviously not the case, since there are Christian black metal bands (therefore not anti-religious). As to being hateful, I'd say that many bands are no more hateful than those in other metal genres (and I don't mean just death metal!). For instance, the themes of Summoning are from the Lord of the Rings, and there are many folk black metal bands that aren't all that hateful (I'm talking about the lyrics of course). If you want to change the wording, go ahead, I'm sure we can work something out. IronChris | (talk) 05:05, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Satanism is a religion.... BM is not anti-religious.

Black metal IS anti-religious. What is black metal without it's idealogy? Anything in black metal which isn't anti-judeo-christianity isn't black metal, or you just don't hear anything on the subject at all. Also Shane, I've fixed the intro and idealogy section - please don't revert anything without telling me why. Or just don't revert anything cos now the relevant sections of the article pwn ;) 86.149.59.252 21:37, 17 June 2007 (UTC) You tell them, I'm with you. Black Metal is dangerous, and not anti-religious, but solely anti-christian, which is far worse.

I might say that Black Metal has evolved into other lyrical approach in these days. Of course the lyrics still tell anti-religious themes, but the evolution's is clear. And about Satanism, please, Anton LaVey himself said that Satanism is not a new kind of religion, but a life style (or philosophy, as you wish to call it). Another thing to have in mind is that Satanism in Black Metal lyrics are apart of Satanism told by Church of Satan or any other line of Satanism, except for those who believes that Satan is a kind of entity. (talk)

Arc Fatalis

I turned this article back into a redirect because I don't think it "asserts the importance or significance" of the band. (I would have put a speedy deletion tag on the article if it hadn't been a redirect originally). Nothing personal. -P4k 06:44, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

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Fordham co-op program with Columbia

YOu have made some really good edits to the Fordham article. I think there should be some discussion on removing the reference to the co-op program, though. I appreciate your point that the program is small, but in the context of the wiki article the point is to illuminate a successful partnership with another prestigious entity, such as the Alvin Ailey program noted in the same paragraph. I am going to start a discussion page at the Fordham article to see if there are other readers/editors who have an opinion Thanks.Shoreranger 17:54, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Discussing a banning

Thanks for all your contribs to the black metal page, and thanks for helping revert practical vandalism on the part of 86.145.249.81 and 86.149.59.252 (who I suspect to be the same person). However, despite our efforts to keep sanity to the page, this individual keeps coming back to impose his unnecessary edits. Do you know how to block him out? If so, I think he's more than enough qualified. It's something I've never done before so I'm not familiar with how to do it. Thanks. -- Logical Defense 21:39, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Fordham as first Catholic college in the Northeast

I know that BC supporters often make this claim, but the facts don't bear it out. They trace their "origins" to a school in the basement of the cathedral, but in reality it does not contitute a college. If read carefully, the Wiki article for BC supports this, though it is far from straightforward:

"In 1827, Bishop Fenwick opened a school in the basement of his cathedral and took to the personal instruction of the city's youth. His efforts to attract other Jesuits to the faculty were hampered both by Boston's distance from the center of Jesuit activity in Maryland and by suspicion on the part of the city's Protestant elite. Relations with Boston's civic leaders worsened such that, when a Jesuit faculty was finally secured in 1843, Fenwick decided to leave the Boston school and instead opened the College of the Holy Cross 45 miles west of the city in Worcester, Massachusetts where he felt the Jesuits could operate with greater autonomy. Meanwhile, the vision for a college in Boston was sustained by John McElroy, SJ, who saw an even greater need for such an institution in light of Boston's growing immigrant population. With the approval of his Jesuit superiors, McElroy went about raising funds and in 1857 purchased land for "The Boston College" on Harrison Street in Boston's South End. With little fanfare, the college's two buildings — a schoolhouse and a church — welcomed their first class of scholastics in 1859."

The first time the word "college" is used is in reference to Holy Cross, and in relation to Boston not until 1857, and then goes on to say there were not students until 1859. That was a ful1 18 years after Fordham.

I have no oppositoin to the insertion o fthe word "chartered" you added in the Fordham article, as I don't think it detracts from the point, but the fact reamains that it was extablished as a college first. Shoreranger 14:23, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Unblack metal edit

Hi, Sorry if the statement I added didn't make sense, I often have trouble wording things exactly. However, I'm with a group of people who do consider the term "unblack" to be meaningless and fairly insulting, so if it's not too much to ask, I wonder if you could somehow fit that into the article in a way that is Wiki appropriate?

Thanks, Signed: User too lazy to register an account


MRBEAN668 I was adding a picture saying 'Unblack'. That was it. It is the logo for unblack metal, and I see you are also a Catholic. It was not vandalism. Thanks: Mrbean668

sadly there is a whole "unblack metal" genre same sound (for the most part) as black metal but EXACT opposite lyrics.

signed: cradle thy filth (for inapropriate wiki talk e-mail me at mrbdangl6662318@yahoo.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cradle thy filth (talkcontribs) 16:44, 24 September 2007 (UTC)