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== Our recent discussion - let's move it, I'LL host! == == Our recent discussion - let's move it, I'LL host! ==

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User:AL2TB/Userpage

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Discussion

BTW...

It is best we keep our personal info a secret, so predators/stalkers won't catch us and stuff. I'm doing good in that class, so heres the thing. Make sure what Misplaced Pages is about, edit the encyclopedia, and make sure your acustom to the policies and traditions in Misplaced Pages. Good luck and happy editing! :) PrestonH 03:53, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Okay, sure, I'll keep quiet about our personal stuff. (Though in my opinion, mentioning our teacher or our school is not really personal info, as opposed to revealing your home address.) And I'm not really a newcomer because I already familiarized myself and know the traditions of Misplaced Pages because I already edited bunches of times from my IP address (and I wish to not tell anyone what my address is, but if you check the articles about interstates, I think you can figure it out). I talk to you differently since I talk to a Wikipedian whom I know in real life. Just like my cousin you-know-who, I edit roads. I already know the standards; how do you think I got addicted to Misplaced Pages? Anyways, thanks, and have fun editing, too! AL2TB Gab or Tab 05:39, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
P.S. Also, unless you have another appropriate e-mail messenger and you wish me to ask you the following question there instead, I might ask you for math homework on Misplaced Pages because sometimes, I forget to copy it down from class. (Besides, it's better than calling you via telephone.)
P.S.S. How do you decorate your own siggy when you sign your posts? I wish to know how. :) AL2TB Gab or Tab 05:39, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
P.S.S.S. How do we utilize a watchlist? What's it designed for? AL2TB Gab or Tab 05:41, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
At the top of each page, there is a watch tab. Clicking that tab will add the page to your watchlist. When someone edits that page, the change will appear on your watchlist, which can be used to guard pages you're interested in against vandalism, or even just to see if others are improving an article you wrote (or adding bad information or what not.) —Scott5114 06:39, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to Misplaced Pages!

Welcome!

Hello, AL2TB, and welcome to Misplaced Pages! Thank you for your contributions relating to roads. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} on your user page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions.

Please become familiar with the Misplaced Pages and U.S. Roads standards by checking out User:Rschen7754/Manual.

Additional road article-related questions can be answered at the following links: United States, Canada, or other countries. You may also ask questions at my talk page.

Feel free to ask questions at #wikipedia-en-roads on IRC as well.

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian and a roadfan! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your username and the date. Again, welcome!  —Scott5114 06:39, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Response...

A list of answers provided above and additional tips.

  • You can request protection over here.
  • Remember that Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia so try not to go overboard with the signatures, OK? Occasional signatures are alright, but what really counts is editing the articles and their content.
  • Please be aware that they are stalkers in Misplaced Pages, so giving out personal info is extremely dangerous (but I'm glad you are aware of it, see here).
  • The reason I locked my userpage is because it is vulnerable to vandalism and yeah.
  • My e-mail is enabled, and to enable yours, go to Special:Preferences and type in your e-mail address. I will usually introduce in my e-mail address to verify that I'm PrestonH. Go to here for confirmation.
  • You have to wait another few days until you can edit my page, which deters vandals away.
  • You seem to have a firm grip of wikimarking, so I apperciate your knowledge about that.

PrestonH 03:21, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

WT:ELG

Actually, I think the discussion is still ongoing. Feel free to chip in! —Scott5114 04:56, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

It's at least temporarily stalled because of the realization that we don't have a full list of postmile equations, and thus cannot calculate accurate mileage. --NE2 17:03, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

See the discussion on WT:ELG. --NE2 07:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Response

Well I'm not too paranoid about it, but I request an admin via e-mail to delete the personal info. Since you are obviously not a newcomer, I will be your guidance so I can help you with bits and pieces of policies (I already mention this in real life, so this is a reinforcement). Well. good luck! PrestonH 17:09, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

My respone to the RfA

I would accept my RfA nomination. I'm pretty sure you can do the formatting and stuff for the nominations page. However, if my RfA dosen't succeed, I'll work out on my criticism and improve from there on. PrestonH 06:29, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

PrestonH RfA

Why did you indent two comments in the oppose section here? I dorftrotteltalk I 18:34, December 9, 2007

Because the same user cannot vote more than once. AL2TB Gab or Tab 18:39, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Never mind. AL2TB Gab or Tab 18:43, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
What makes me think that very very new users as nominators are not so well-suited to raise my trust in an RfA? Well, e.g. things like this. I dorftrotteltalk I 19:18, December 9, 2007
Don't worry, I think I understand. I dorftrotteltalk I 19:26, December 9, 2007
AL2TB: I have left a comment in response to one of your comments at Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/PrestonH. Please act immediately, thanks. Daniel 22:33, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Bypassing redirects

Please see Misplaced Pages:Redirect#Do not change links to redirects that are not broken; thank you. I am reverting your edit to SR 3 because you broke the SR 36 link. --NE2 20:15, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, I fixed the link, so was that okay then? AL2TB Gab or Tab 02:13, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
No; you shouldn't bypass redirects like that. --NE2 18:21, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Bear Valley Road

Why the heck did you do that? Please read WP:PROD: After ten days with no objections, it would have been deleted. --Rschen7754 (T C) 01:50, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, as of this moment, I see a discussion going on regarding to the deletion of the Bear Valley Road article. AL2TB Gab or Tab 00:58, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Which would have been unnecessary. Please make sure you know what you're doing before you do it - I've seen many mistakes throughout your edits, made because you don't know what you are doing. --Rschen7754 (T C) 02:07, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
If it seems to you that I'm making mistakes, please remind me if I make some mistake again, and point to me where the rules is. I'll try to follow that from now on. Also, I created the afd because this administrator said that I can use the template if I create the page for discussion. Well, if that's not how it's supposed to be done, I'll read the policy and will try my best to follow it. Anyways, thanks again. AL2TB Gab or Tab 02:08, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
You misinterpreted his comment. TMF reverted this because your addition of PROD was unnecessary and because you did not create the needed subpage. Now, you have added a delay to the deletion of the article. --Rschen7754 (T C) 03:29, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

P.S. I warned people that I do make mistakes quite often, especially minor, silly mistakes. I try my best to correct them on my own, but if you (any editor out there) do catch one of my mistakes (or anyone else's for that matter), then you should correct it. If not, then I guess a revert should do. AL2TB Gab or Tab 02:14, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Your RFA was unsucessful

I'll improve as an editor like you say on my talk page, but there is a slim chance my intentions will switch toward adminship. If there is ever a case where I change my mind, then I will tell you in real life first than the others so you can nominate me. Thank you for nominating me for adminship though previously. :) PrestonH 03:23, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

I-5 CA

a) Per WP:CASH and just about every other US roads project out there, we use the Exit list header' b) we don't include former exits. --Rschen7754 (T C) 06:19, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

What revision did I do that was wrong? AL2TB Gab or Tab 06:22, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Um..... a) you removed the Exit list header, and b) you included a former exit. --Rschen7754 (T C) 06:23, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
I was trying to fix the location column and made it look like how User:NE2 did it. There is no easy way to revert, however. AL2TB Gab or Tab 06:24, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
You didn't even touch the location column, and it was Geopgeop who did that. Also, you misinterpreted how NE2 did the exit lists - he combined two lists; you just randomly removed the header.
It is clear that you do not understand WP:USRD or WP:CASH. Please study these and related pages before going further. --Rschen7754 (T C) 06:26, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
It is also clear to you that I make silly mistakes. I did not realize that I removed the header. All I was really doing was comparing a certain revision, copy that info of the exit lists (and I was not aware of the changes made since then). An IP made the location column look different. I was just trying to revert it back to the way it was. AL2TB Gab or Tab 06:28, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Also, I used to edit as an IP before I enabled my cookies to create an account. Maybe one of those IP address (68.XXX.XXX.XXX, for example) is mine. I did touch the location column; I was just trying to revert back to the way it was. Therefore, I am not a new contributor, and I did read the guidelines in WP:IH and WP:CASH AL2TB Gab or Tab 06:31, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
You are committing the fallacy of self-righteousness. If you don't know what it is, it is confusing good intentions with good actions. --Rschen7754 (T C) 06:41, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Do you think it's best that I should use the "Show Preview" button more often? I think that can ensure my mistakes can be cleared away before saving my revision. AL2TB Gab or Tab 06:43, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Yes, and it is easier for others to see what you have done without digging through diffs. If you make multiple edits to do what could be done with one edit, it makes a mess. --Rschen7754 (T C) 06:53, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your note. I'll do that form now on. :) AL2TB Gab or Tab 18:07, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Interstate 94 in Wisconsin

Please do not change links that are not broken as you did in Interstate 94 in Wisconsin The edit has been rolled back. For further information please see WP:R2D Thank you,  — master son 21:06, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

U.S. 6 in California

It looks like your position in keeping US 6 in California has been mostly vindicated. Are you in a position to expand on this article and write about its history? If so I say lets do it before the issue is raised again. Davemeistermoab (talk) 03:01, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

I'll try during my Winter Break (starting on December 21). AL2TB Gab or Tab 23:47, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Actually, I might try it later. Right now, I have other things to do. Sorry. AL2TB Gab or Tab 20:24, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Merry early Xmas

Hey AL2TB, how is it going in real life? Merry Xmas dude, here is your present from yours truly...

Congratulations, AL2TB! For your motivations, edits, and friendliness, I award you this spinning ball thingy. Your continous quality edits keeps this ball spinning.

I hope you enjoy this shiny gift/award from me (I recommend you put this on your userpage, your desicion). I'll see you again in real-life in a couple of weeks. Bye! PrestonH 23:20, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the award. Yeah, I'll see you in two weeks! Be ready for our Chapter 5 test in math class! AL2TB Gab or Tab 20:01, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

SVG

The GIS program I use outputs SVG. You can also make it with programs like Inkscape. --NE2 21:01, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Image Copyright Status

Thank you for the barnstar engraved as me. That was very kind of you ;). But the image of the barnstar you recently updated said it is "missing copyright status" over in this image. Can you provide a copyright liscense over at Commons so they won't delete the image after 7 days? Thanks! PrestonH 22:33, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Took care of that. Glad you enjoyed that barnstar! :) AL2TB Gab or Tab 00:05, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Replaceability

What exactly is irreplaceable about Image:California bridge postmile.GIF? Anyone could make a free-use image in Inkscape in about ten minutes (in fact I'm planning on doing it after I post this)...it doesn't warrant uploading a fair use image. Avoid using fair use images as much as possible; we only use fair use images when we have no other options open, like on Johnny Olson (who died in 1982) or Family Feud (cameras aren't allowed into the studio). Good job providing the fair use criteria though! —Scott5114 07:02, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. Hmm... I got to learn more about these images. Where is the best place to start learning on proper ways to upload them? AL2TB Gab or Tab 21:21, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
The appropriate policies for fair-use/non-free images is WP:FU (don't laugh...it really is! :P). You can also learn a bit by watching the image gurus in action at WP:IFD. —Scott5114 01:47, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Okay, thanks! I'm sure to learn a lot from there. And as for the first link, I laughed anyways. :D AL2TB Gab or Tab 02:25, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Naming of Chicago article

There has been a fair amount of prior debate about the best title for the Chicago article; see for example this move request. The consensus at the time was that Chicago was the preferred name, and Chicago is listed at the Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (settlements) guideline page as an exception to the canonical "City, State" format. Due to the prior discussion surrounding this issue, it may be preferable to file a move request and/or start a talk page discussion if you want to move it back to Chicago, Illinois, to see if consensus from the prior move request debate has changed. Regards. --Muchness (talk) 04:40, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

County abbreviations

The reason these were used is that it wasn't clear that they reset at county lines. But this is now abundantly clear, with the note at the top and the ranges listed in the county column. Why did you remove the county routes? You should also see Misplaced Pages:Redirect#Do not change links to redirects that are not broken. --NE2 01:27, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

What county routes did I remove? (I do not recall.) AL2TB Gab or Tab 01:29, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
It appears that you removed all of them. --NE2 01:30, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Oh, sorry. It must have occurred in the process of editing and facing an edit conflict. AL2TB Gab or Tab 01:51, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Tips... (security practices and rollbacks)

I must say your account is off at a great start, and you most of the wikimarkups and quite a few policies (course you've first read Misplaced Pages since 2004 which shouldn't come out too much of a surprise). Here is an important tip you might need (in case you didn't know). Make sure your account is secured to prevent it from being exploited. Here are the following links for further instructions...

If you believe you don't have a strong password, try to change it ASAP. On with the rollback instructions...


Here are the list of ways you can get the rollback tools...

To get the rollback tools for the Lupin anti-vandal tool on the first, follow the instructions given when you click on the link. It will mostly be involved on your monobook script and installing it. Similar instructions can be find in the "popups". The rollback only works if you are at the "history" of the article. The VandalProof requires manual downloading though (click link for further instructions). I'm pretty sure you know what a "rollback" works and how it functions, so you can choose which one (or more) that is mostly comfortable. PrestonH 03:19, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Your Talk page

Can you change your font to a more readable version - I've had trouble trying to read it. Thanks.  — master son 23:53, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Um, no. Sorry. Unless everyone else has trouble reading it (and it appears that they can all read it just fine), I'm keeping this font. However, you can click the "edit" link and read from the text box for a more legible font. Otherwise, chances are you may need to work with your computer (probably the monitor's contrast and brightness in particular) or call a technician to fix your settings. AL2TB Gab or Tab 00:06, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
I can't read your talk page either. --Son (talk) 07:09, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Follow the advice above, or maybe check your eyesight. AL2TB Gab or Tab 18:57, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Our recent discussion - let's move it, I'LL host!

AL2TB - I understand the desire that you have to keep your talk page free of contentious issues. To that end, let's move this to MY talk page, I'll host any further discussion on this matter. (I have absolutely NO issue with controversial topics or discussions, it's ONLY Misplaced Pages...) Edit Centric (talk) 00:19, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Done. AL2TB Gab or Tab 00:43, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

California State Route 160

Of course it is. Thank you, I appreciate it. All I've been doing was following guidelines from the WP:ELG. Plus, I've tried to follow a similar approach of NE2's way of exit lists in other articles lately, only to get slapped in the face with "redundant" and "unneccessary". I guess we all have to come to some sort of compromise, like sticking with the county abbreviations in the mileposts. PhATxPnOY916 (talk) 02:25, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Words of Wisdom...

Have you realize that NE2's 2nd RfC has been archived three months ago? You might want to remove the comments you made recently as that RfC is not active right now. PrestonH 07:09, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Took care of it. AL2TB Gab or Tab 18:55, 30 December 2007 (UTC)