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*I do not belong here on this page, but feel I need to make a progress report. Please keep in mind that since the article is about me, my every word is suspect. I can not be expected to have ] because of ]. However, ] and I have been having a very reasonable discussion on my talk page (feel free to visit) where he has granted that I may be notable enough to have an article on me remain on Wiki and that the article now being considered for deletion is not the same article he sent here. In his supporting the tenets of Wiki in the strongest way possible, he kept editing the article, even though he was sure it would be deleted anyway, and unfortunately turned the article something which would be a total embarrasment to Wiki. We both agreed that editors trying to confirm any possible worth would have had to check the edit hitory of the article itself and then spend all kinds of time trying to compare earlier and later versions... and it would be quite time-consuming. I am grateful that he has agreed to restore the article to what it was the day it was introduced to AfD as an aid to editors here. I have concurred with him that if editors here at AfD feel the original article was non-notable, that I would be happy to have it go.. and if editors here felt the original version did have some worth, I was willing to have it stay. I do not know when the article will be restored (however tenperary). Thank you. ] (]) 09:45, 14 January 2008 (UTC) *I do not belong here on this page, but feel I need to make a progress report. Please keep in mind that since the article is about me, my every word is suspect. I can not be expected to have ] because of ]. However, ] and I have been having a very reasonable discussion on my talk page (feel free to visit) where he has granted that I may be notable enough to have an article on me remain on Wiki and that the article now being considered for deletion is not the same article he sent here. In his supporting the tenets of Wiki in the strongest way possible, he kept editing the article, even though he was sure it would be deleted anyway, and unfortunately turned the article something which would be a total embarrasment to Wiki. We both agreed that editors trying to confirm any possible worth would have had to check the edit hitory of the article itself and then spend all kinds of time trying to compare earlier and later versions... and it would be quite time-consuming. I am grateful that he has agreed to restore the article to what it was the day it was introduced to AfD as an aid to editors here. I have concurred with him that if editors here at AfD feel the original article was non-notable, that I would be happy to have it go.. and if editors here felt the original version did have some worth, I was willing to have it stay. I do not know when the article will be restored (however tenperary). Thank you. ] (]) 09:45, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
**Sheesh, man, you have as much right to be here as anyone. It's the encyclopedia '''anyone''' can edit, remember? Don't worry about expressing your opinions (you're more than welcome), and don't worry about us not taking into account that you're the article's subject (we will). --] (]) 16:56, 14 January 2008 (UTC) **Sheesh, man, you have as much right to be here as anyone. It's the encyclopedia '''anyone''' can edit, remember? Don't worry about expressing your opinions (you're more than welcome), and don't worry about us not taking into account that you're the article's subject (we will). --] (]) 16:56, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
***I said those portions could be restored with references for each of the statements being made. This is the only way to prevent it from violating any of the guidelines I cited. I see that much of the unsourced information has been returned and it is my intention to remove anything without a source in this article if it survives this AfD. ] (]) 18:42, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

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Michael Q. Schmidt (actor)

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Disputed prod, questions about this actor's notability. Procedural nomination. UsaSatsui (talk) 08:03, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Keep He has been in over 200 film and television projects and seems to backed up by references. Appeared in numerous notable films. Can't see the problem here. M♠ssing Ace 09:40, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Weak delete unless primary claim to notability, playing the Mountain Troll in the Harry Potter series, can be confirmed by independent coverage. The rest of this is just puffery for minor and fleeting roles. --Dhartung | Talk 10:46, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete, seems to be nothing more than a moderately successful bit-part actor. Lankiveil (talk) 11:40, 11 January 2008 (UTC).
  • Delete - Vanity page was created by Schmidt and edited by his sockpuppets to bolster his claims of notability. Article was being maintained solely with promotional material using almost entirely original research in violation of WP:AUTO, WP:OR, WP:SPAM and WP:ADVERT. Information in article is almost identical to that on his IMDB page and most of the references cited are to his personal website in violation of WP:V and WP:RS. This is one of a number of spam articles created by these accounts to promote this actor and it should be deleted first as spam and second to discourage others from using Misplaced Pages as a marketing vehicle for their acting resume. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 14:39, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep Somewhat notable actor with reprising roles in several shows. See article's talk page for further information (no need to put it all here). I concur this article was initially added and updated by a registered sock and in violation of WP:ADVERT, but that doesn't make the information inaccurate. Additionally, subsequent edits have made put this article IAW WP policy and guidelines.131.44.121.252 (talk) 15:17, 11 January 2008 (UTC) (BQZip01)
  • Many articles about an object have sources that are from a personal website. As long as they are not controversial or inaccurate, the basic facts are certainly citable from that source. It certainly could use more sources to make it better, but that is not a requirement of WP:DEL. Furthermore, I did provide other reasons on the talk page of the article and felt it very pointy to duplicate that information here, so I gave a reference. It is that simple. Please try not to read too much into my disagreement. — BQZip01 —  21:42, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep - Played regular characters on several TV shows, Appeared on Jimmy Kimmel live, Penn & Teller: Bullshit!, and Distraction. Many minor roles in movies. Why is this even up for AfD? If there is a problem with the tone of the article, fix it, but there's no question this is notable. Torc2 (talk) 21:26, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment - Schmidt has said he hired a publicity company to write this article and now requests that it be deleted. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 12:28, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
  • That's sad, but kind of irrelevant. Whatever conflict occurred in the past needs to stay there. At the absolute minimum, we know that Schmidt is notable, and that's enough reason to keep an article on him. The contents can be worked out on the article itself. Hopefully editors will treat the material with some dignity, since minor wikicrimes shouldn't prejudice Wiki's article about somebody against them. Torc2 (talk) 13:02, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
  • I do not belong here on this page, but feel I need to make a progress report. Please keep in mind that since the article is about me, my every word is suspect. I can not be expected to have NPOV because of COI. However, Cumulus Clouds and I have been having a very reasonable discussion on my talk page (feel free to visit) where he has granted that I may be notable enough to have an article on me remain on Wiki and that the article now being considered for deletion is not the same article he sent here. In his supporting the tenets of Wiki in the strongest way possible, he kept editing the article, even though he was sure it would be deleted anyway, and unfortunately turned the article something which would be a total embarrasment to Wiki. We both agreed that editors trying to confirm any possible worth would have had to check the edit hitory of the article itself and then spend all kinds of time trying to compare earlier and later versions... and it would be quite time-consuming. I am grateful that he has agreed to restore the article to what it was the day it was introduced to AfD as an aid to editors here. I have concurred with him that if editors here at AfD feel the original article was non-notable, that I would be happy to have it go.. and if editors here felt the original version did have some worth, I was willing to have it stay. I do not know when the article will be restored (however tenperary). Thank you. MichaelQSchmidt (talk) 09:45, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
    • Sheesh, man, you have as much right to be here as anyone. It's the encyclopedia anyone can edit, remember? Don't worry about expressing your opinions (you're more than welcome), and don't worry about us not taking into account that you're the article's subject (we will). --UsaSatsui (talk) 16:56, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
      • I said those portions could be restored with references for each of the statements being made. This is the only way to prevent it from violating any of the guidelines I cited. I see that much of the unsourced information has been returned and it is my intention to remove anything without a source in this article if it survives this AfD. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 18:42, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
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