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Please do not use talk pages such as Talk:Prescott Bush for general discussion of the topic. They are for discussion related to improving the article. They are not to be used as a forum or chat room. See here for more information. Thank you.--Veritas (talk) 15:50, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Prescott Bush support for Hitler and anti FDR is notable. This video shows the notability. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnAUQeHykXY

• Please stop. If you continue to use talk pages such as Talk:Prescott Bush for inappropriate discussion, as described here, you may be blocked. --Veritas (talk) 15:56, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

  Are you WP:OWNERSHIP Igor Berger (talk) 15:57, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Instead of just using templates, I'll add that your continuous reversions are disruptive as they clearly violate WP:NOT#FORUM. Article talk pages are not a forum for posting videos or chatting on the general subject matter of the individual concerned in the article. Rather, article talk pages are for the discussion of article edits only. --Veritas (talk) 15:59, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

I am not chating about Prescott Bush but the video is by a journalist about Bush's connection to Hitler and FDR. Igor Berger (talk) 16:01, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

You are using the forum to post a video, not to discuss article edits. WP:NOT#FORUM clearly states, "talk pages exist for the purpose of discussing how to improve articles; they are not mere general discussion pages about the subject of the article, nor are they a helpdesk for obtaining instructions or technical assistance." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Veritas (talk • contribs) 16:02, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits.
If you continue to use talk pages such as Talk:Prescott Bush for inappropriate discussions you will be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. --Veritas (talk) 16:05, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

You do not own the article or are you a boss of WikiPedia. I reverted 3 times and you reverted 3 times. If you revert one more time you will be violating the WP:3RR Igor Berger (talk) 16:06, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Note that 3RR makes an exception for the reversion of obvious vandalism. I have already pointed out to you how your edits are obviously violating Wiki policy. Please cease now. --Veritas (talk) 16:09, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

You do not own the article and I am not a vandal but an editor. You have violated 3RR and I am reporting you. Igor Berger (talk) 16:11, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

You are also WP:Refactor your talk page for social engineering refactoring Igor Berger (talk) 16:51, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

• I have asked User:Jehochman#WikiPedia_has_a_Problem to investigate.

• He replied. " That sounds like a fringe video to me."

• I replied, "It is not a fringe video because later I realized the reporters story, "How Bush's gradfther helped Hitler raise to power http://www.guardian.co.uk/germany/article/0,,1312542,00.html already incorporated in the article Prescott Bush#Nazi collaboration controversy Prescott_Bush#_note-Guardian. Also the editor waring with me had no reason to thow templates at my talk page and call me a vandal. I am an editor as well. And he did not respect the 3RR." Igor Berger (talk) 08:34, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

• I was not using Talk:Prescott Bush as a WP:NOT#FORUM but wanting to bring new notablity to the article with the video link, but later I descovered the news story has been incorporated into Prescott Bush article already. Igor Berger (talk) 08:34, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
• After trying to give my hand in friendship to User:Veritas I am called a Troll for that, give hand after called Troll Igor Berger (talk) 16:59, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
• This is an interesting conversation with regards to WP:BITE do not template the nublets and the regulars This advice was given to me by User:Versageek Regards, Igor Berger (talk) 17:44, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

January 2008

Igorberger (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

This Block was not merited being that the situation was already resolved!

Decline reason:

It would not appear so, looking at the contribs history, your repeated attempts to use the talk page as a forum, and then your bogus NPA warning against Veritas does not show a good-faith attempt to work within the bounds of Misplaced Pages guidelines and policies. — Jayron32.talk.contribs 06:27, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

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• I have asked User_talk:Jehochman#WikiPedia_has_a_Problem to Investigate this. Igor Berger (talk) 06:40, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

• I have sent you back to User:VirtualSteve. I am confident he can explain this to you. Jehochman 07:05, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

  I am sorry I am afraid to talk to him. Last time I asked for help he called me a Troll. He also refers to me as an aligator when he talks to his friends about me. Igor Berger (talk) 07:11, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

• User:VirtualSteve said about me, "Bullshit - the only reason I'm responding to you so slowly is 'cause I'm holding off this frigging crocodile with my other hand" Igor Berger (talk) 07:22, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

• Admin User:The_undertow got offended with VirtualSteve calling me crocodile. If I wasn't busy on my Soloflex, while eating apple pie, I would probably block you for pulling the crocodile card Igor Berger (talk) 08:13, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

• Last time I politely asked for his help he called me a Troll. Request to User_talk:Peachyms/ delete the erronies page was called Trolling by VirtualSteve Igor Berger (talk) 07:27, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Igorberger (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

The block was not merited because I was not violating any WikiPedia policy and User:VirtualSteve has WP:ABF with User:Igorberger and calls me a Troll and a crocodile. Igor Berger (talk) 08:41, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Decline reason:

You are not blocked at this time. Stifle (talk) 10:34, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

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• More personal attacks by User:VirtualSteve claimin refactoring. I only refactored to put the old messages to archive that are not relevent to this issue. Igor Berger (talk) 08:57, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

• The reason for moving old messages because the page has become to big! Igor Berger (talk)

Note to admin considering second unblock request

Please see the following edits here, and here and perhaps ask these editors as to the truth of this matter. - With thanks --VS 09:00, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Igor, brotherman... the crocodile comment was innocuous. VS and I were trading derogatory remarks and he mentioned a crocodile. In vernacular, a croc simply refers to VS's Aussie lineage. Please be advised that having never come across your edits, there is no way I could have meant it in a direct reference to you, nor would I ever adhere to such a personal attack. I was simply engaging in personal banter with Steve, and as you can see, the word 'crocodile' came up. I can empathize with you feeling that it was directed towards you, but looking over all realms of possibility, I think you can see it surely did not refer to you. I apologize for any misconceptions. Unless you are indeed a crocodile, in which case, yeah, I can see why you are pissed. Later, gator. the_undertow 09:12, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Dude I have no bad blood with you. I actually seen your good work at ANI. Igor Berger (talk) 09:15, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

• (copied from Jehochman's page) Please come to my talk page Igor - politely - leave Jehochman alone - stop telling stories and point me to exact diffs of these complaints. Then I can show you why you are a troll, why you were warned by other editors for trolling, why I never called YOU a crocodile (you were not even a part of the conversation) and why you are a destructive editor. I will also post this edit on your talk page and will not respond further anywhere else. So please come to my talk page when you are ready.--VS 09:16, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

• VirtualStve please stop Trolling my talk page. If you cannot see me as a fellow editor but as a Troll, you should look in a mirror. Igor Berger (talk) 09:19, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

• VirtualSteve you are acting like an experienced editor like you are perfect and do not make mistakes. And as if you know everything without investigating the issues. How long have you been an WikiPedia admin? 7 months and 1 day? Igor Berger (talk) 09:23, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Igor, why don't we take it over to my zoo of a page. I'm sure we can find some resolve. I'll be happy to act as a neutral party and then you guys can carry on as positive contributors, and I can carry on with whatever I do here. the_undertow 09:26, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

The undertow I rather do this at my cage being VS likes me so much..:) Igor Berger (talk) 09:30, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

• Out of respect for my brotherman WikiPedians I am going to give VirtualStve an chance to put this behind. User_talk:VirtualSteve#Are_you_going_to_Stop_Calling_me_a_Troll.3F Igor Berger (talk) 09:38, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

This issue between VirtualSteve and Igorberger has been resolved amiable Igor Berger (talk) 10:31, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

So I thought but instead of deescalating the matter VirtualSteve is thowing more gasoline on the fire This is what he said to me when I asked him for help, "VirtualSteve can you telll User:Veritas I am not Trolling you or him - Not a chance - Veritas was and is correct"Igor Berger (talk) 20:53, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Your edit to Troll (internet)

Howdy. I reverted your edit to this article because there is already a "see also" at the top of the article to the Misplaced Pages essay, Misplaced Pages:What is a troll?. There's no need for a section in that article which would have the same meaning. Thanks for your contribution. MKoltnow 04:49, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

• Would like to add WikiPedia Troll to the article. Igor Berger (talk) 05:02, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

  You do not think it is worth to have a small mention as I have done and put a link to the esay?

  It is just very frustrating how easy editors call other editors trolls on WikiPedia, that in itself is destruptive. Thanks, Igor Berger (talk) 04:57, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

  There is a link to the essay right at the top of the article, so no, I don't think there's anything to be gained by what you added. Also, Misplaced Pages is not double-capped; there's no capital 'p' in it. MKoltnow 05:05, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

  Thanks for your input. The WikiPedia is camel back, the original Wiki format. I will bring the question to the article's talk page and see what is the consensus. Igor Berger (talk) 05:10, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Igor, but...

...it's just a garden variety vandal, just coming off a 6 month school block, and I fear soon to go back on one. No need to feed him, just ignore him and he'll go away. --barneca (talk) 19:00, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

I try to help people because I know it can be hard on both ends. Hope he stops if not he will be blocked. Igor Berger (talk) 19:01, 29 January 2008 (UTC)