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Seresin

Voice your opinion (talk page) (4/0/0); Scheduled to end 07:24, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

co-nom Seresin (talk · contribs) - The other day I was checking out the admin coaching page looking for somebody who I thought might make a decent admin. I investigated several potential candidate, but one stood head and shoulders above all of the others. Seresin has been active with Misplaced Pages since April 2007, during which time he has made about 5,000 edits. One of the things that impressed me was the breadth of his contributions--particularly in the Misplaced Pages and Misplaced Pages Talk spaces (400/200 edits respectively.) He has voted in ArbCom (after asking some candidates questions.) He has received 4 barnstars from fellow wikipedians, 2 for anti-vandalism activities and 2 for inter-personal behavior. A few weeks ago, Anonymous Dissident referred to Seresin as "my fellow Wikipedian and hopefully one day admin, seem to know policy to the enth degree." This comment coming from Anonymous Dissident spoke volumes of Seresin's technical knowledge. I also reviewed a number of his edits and other comments, and my respect for him as an editor continued to grow. Seresin used to be known as User:I but recently changed his name. One of the things that I respect was that when some controversy arose related to single letter users, he listened to the criticism and modified his stance.

Generally, when a 17 year old seeks adminship, I am reluctant to support. But Seresin has shown a great deal of maturity especially when it comes to the tools. Seresin initially visited the AdminCoach page on August 13th, but nobody accepted him as a student. Rather than nominate himself or ask somebody who worked with him to nominate him, he waited patiently and developed his wiki knowledge. On December 1, he restated his desire to go through admin coaching. I offered to become his coach. I felt as if his willingness to wait was a clear sign of his maturity. Rather than rush the process, he wanted to wait until somebody else felt he was prepared for the tools. In the few days that I've worked with him he has done that. As his coach I asked him to EWS23's deletion excercises Seresin gave me some of the best answers I've seen. So I asked him 17 policy based questions ranging from topics such as Speedy Deletion, to name changes, to legal threats, to protection, and blocking. He gave me very well thought out and complete answers! Still not 100% convinced by his great answers, I reviewed 200+ of his edits, and those convinced me.

Having grilled coached him, I have zero doubt that he knows the policies (or at least how to find them) and will make an excellent admin! So I introduce you to Seresin.Balloonman (talk) 06:33, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Co-nomination by Sunny910910-This is my first RFA nomination so please bear withme.
I've known Seresin for a long time. I met him back when he was named "I", I had just reverted vandalism on one of the articles in Inheritance cycle and I went to warn the IP when I realized that Seresin had already done it for me. So I had thanked him, and durring that time, he suggested that I try TW. Anyway, thats probably enough about how I met him. Out of all the non-admins that I've met, I believe that Seresin is the best suited for the job.
For one thing, he has a great comprehension and understanding of CSD. For example, this (now deleted) page had been requested for speedy deletion per WP:CSD#A1 Seresin had looked over it and told the nominator that it was not nonsense (as you can see [[Computer prank#Joke programs|here]]) but still meets the CSD only as WP:CSD#A7 instead of WP:CSD#A1. Normally at this point I would provide a link, however, unfortunately all the evidence has been lost Seresin's talkpage archives.
I also see that Seresin has much needed patience and cool to deal with vandals, even in the face of personal attacks.
See this exchange: . Not to mention that he has patience to deal with normal waiting, after he let me co-nom this RFA, he hasn't ever even mention it again (let alone ask me if it was finished yet) and especially hasn't shown any impatience.
Anyway I should be wrapping this up before this gets too long. Seresin is a good editor and I believe, if he's approved, he'll make a great admin.--Sunny910910 03:07, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here: Thank you Balloonman and Sunny — seresin | wasn't he just...? 07:25, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate

Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Misplaced Pages as an administrator. It is recommended that you answer these optional questions to provide guidance for participants:

1. What admin work do you intend to take part in?

A: I have most of my adminstrator-related experience in deletion areas, such as speedy deletion and articles for deletion. I've also done some username work, and have reported a few usernames to usernames for administrator attention; I've also commented at request for comment on usernames when there are entries there. I would also deal with vandalism, for which I have received two barnstars. After I've gotten more experince as an administrator, I'll probably deal with other things, such as page protections or 3RR blocks. I also might update Did You Know? when it gets backlogged, which I often see on AN(I). I intend to start with areas I'm comfortable with, and then as I gain more experience work in other areas.

2. What are your best contributions to Misplaced Pages, and why?

A: The more extensive of my contributions are mostly minor fixes, such as copyediting. I also like creating redirects when they are useful. I recently discovered how much fun cleaning up and standardizing disambig pages can be. While not as important as some things, making Misplaced Pages look better and be easier to read is always a necessity. I enjoy making the project easier to read and more useful.

I recently created my first large, non-stub article, Parmigiani Fleurier, which I am very proud of. It's currently in the wheels of DYK, and will hopefully be on the mainpage in the nearish future.

3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?

A: Well, I try to make it a point to avoid the drama that sometimes plagues this place, and conflicts in general. As a result, I have not been in any major disputes. I believe that the majority of the little conflicts I have been involved in have been related to my opinion on what I consider makes something notable, especially fiction-related. A while back (July, I believe) I was involved in creating a (rejected) process to try to deal with the large amount of articles on individual episodes of television shows. An editor commented to me that my behavior in one of the discussions (specifically a TfD) was inappropriate. Upon assessing then, I didn't feel as if it was poor behavior. However, upon reassessing it now, with more wikiexperience, I can clearly see where my comments were out of line. I discussed with the user then, and have taken that conversation and the concerns raised and tried to be mindful of it in my interactions since then.

The other "major" dispute was a conversation with an editor after I notified him that he had a fair-use image on his page, and would he please remove it. He continued editing after I notified him, so I removed it myself. He took offense, and got upset. I defended myself against what I thought were some spurious accusations (including having an administrator sockpuppet). At the advice of another editor who commented in the discussion, I realized that it was time to end the discussion. In retrospect, I should have left the conversation sooner than I did, as the image had been removed and therefore the issue was resolved; there was no need to continue. This would probably be the largest conflict I've been involved in thus far.

As for stress, I haven't really had any. I am not a person who gets lots of stress, and conflicts with anonymous people online over something that is, in the grand scheme of things, often of little importance, do not cause me stress. As for future disputes, which, as implied by adminstrators' comments that I've seen, I will probably find myself invariably involved in, I intend to continue my policy of either avoidance, or disengaging as soon as possible. That said, I won't shy away from trying to resolving disputes, but I will try to avoid as much useless drama as possible while doing so.

Optional question from Master of Puppets

4. In your above answer you stated that you try to avoid drama and major conflicts. However, as an administrator, it would your duty to intervene in edit conflicts and other sorts of disputes between editors, which may sometimes get out of hand. How would you act if one of these came your way?

A:

General comments

• See Seresin's edit summary usage with mathbot's tool. For the edit count, see the talk page.

• Links for Seresin: Seresin (talk · contribs · deleted · count · AfD · logs · block log · lu · rfar · spi)

Please keep discussion constructive and civil. If you are unfamiliar with the nominee, please thoroughly review Special:Contributions/Seresin before commenting.

Discussion

Support

1. Support as co-nom.--Sunny910910 05:33, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
2. Support as co-nom. Seresin is one of the most qualified people I've encountered!Balloonman (talk) 07:29, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
3. It was kind of Seresin to do this before we died, wasn't it... -- Anonymous Dissident 07:33, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
4. Support Great contributions! I'm liking the question answers, too, and a run through your contributions secured my support. Also adding in an optional question. Good luck! Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 07:37, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
5. Support 1) Good answers to the questions. 2) A sensible level of patience shown by going through coaching. 3) I saw like, maybe 1 C:CSD tag that was declined in two months, and plenty of nominations, so no concern on deletion policy. 4) This diff I particularly liked - shows a deeper understanding of guidelines than many IMHO. On a side note, I'd have supported anyway, but oppose number one is deeply disapointing and well out of line with current RfA "expectations". Pedro :  Chat  08:17, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Oppose - I haven't seen his contributions, so my criticism isn't pointed into that direction. He's active on en.wiki since 3 March 2007, that means, less than a year (10 months and few days. He's not experienced enough. Since en.wiki is the biggest Misplaced Pages, we cannot allow ourselves such luxury. I don't say that Seresin is not good, I just want to say that he doesn't know what traps await him. With 2 years on en.wiki, with few experiences on heated things, he'll be a wiki-veteran that 'll recognize things. However, than we'll have to look at quality of his contibutions. Kubura (talk) 07:36, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

   I oppose this oppose, and with vehemence. 10 months is considered by most a long period of time, and by far enough for a candidate to be an admin. And to disregard his contributions like this, and look purely at his length of time here, really gets my goat. Sorry. -- Anonymous Dissident 07:40, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

   Please also consider my health. I would likely have died if he waited much longer on this RFA, and I expect I would no longer be around if he waited 2 years. "Death by impatience" - how undashing... -- Anonymous Dissident 07:44, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

   Hi, Dissident. You're here for 13 months. Believe me, you'll learn a lot in the next 11 months. En.wiki has a big userbase to pick from, we have enough experienced users that are over 2 years regularly here. Seresin 'll belong there once. "Considered by most"? What does that mean? Who counted that? And have you asked experienced users, those with over 2 years on en.wiki? Kubura (talk) 08:20, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

   I'm sorry to name names, but User:WJBscribe, who is a bureaucrat, joined Misplaced Pages in November of 2006, thus failing your criteria for adminship despite a RfB that passed at 172/3/1. I respect your right to an arbitary standard Kubura, but when that standard is so far outside of general community consensus perhaps you may wish to reconsider you stance. Best. Pedro :  Chat  08:35, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

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