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You see this a lot in the Middle East, for instance, with the internet. Outside of the west, many people across the world have this false notion that if somebody uploads something to the internet, it must be true. That's ''really'' bad. <font size="4">]</font>&nbsp;<font face="impact">&nbsp;]</font>&nbsp;(]) 08:48, 8 February 2008 (UTC) You see this a lot in the Middle East, for instance, with the internet. Outside of the west, many people across the world have this false notion that if somebody uploads something to the internet, it must be true. That's ''really'' bad. <font size="4">]</font>&nbsp;<font face="impact">&nbsp;]</font>&nbsp;(]) 08:48, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
:Thank you for your detailed reply. Historically and universally, ''always'' people were misinformed, ''always'' those who had power (money today) brainwashed people. So, I wouldn't worry myself much about that. It has been this way and it will be that way forever (my point of view). Misplaced Pages can improve it in many aspects and that's why it has upset many people. But since I have a pessimistic view regarding the capability of wikipedia to really do anything afterall, I personally would not worry much about failure or success of wikipedia my friend. --] (]) 09:04, 8 February 2008 (UTC) :Thank you for your detailed reply. Historically and universally all around the earth, ''always'' people were misinformed, ''always'' those who had power (money today) brainwashed people. So, I wouldn't worry myself much about that. It has been this way and it will be that way forever (my point of view). Misplaced Pages can improve it in many aspects and that's why it has upset many people. But since I have a pessimistic view regarding the capability of wikipedia to really do anything afterall, I personally would not worry much about failure or success of wikipedia my friend. --] (]) 09:04, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Revision as of 09:05, 8 February 2008

Retired This user is no longer active on Misplaced Pages.

Unblocked

This account has been unblocked for the following reasons:

  1. No futher abusive activity since the final warning was given earlier today.
  2. Significant disagreement on ANI as to whether an indef block was appropriate at all.
  3. Failure to issue proper escalating warnings, failure to WP:AFG, and a little WP:BITE

All of that said...

You're on probation

You have to understand now that your sillyness on-wiki, and your primary use of Misplaced Pages socially and for meta-discussions (talk space, wikipedia space, user space) and not article space, are considered controversial and objectionable.

None of the topic areas you have edited are by themselves problematic. And minor use of humor (anywhere other than article space) incidental to making a legitimate point somewhere is acceptable use of the encyclopedia project as well.

However

You are advised to consider our core policies and your interactions here. If you're primarily trying to joke around, this probably is not a good place to do so. If you want to help build the encyclopedia, you need to do so more clearly and with less "other stuff".

If you edit in a disruptive manner, interject inappropriate humor, especially into article space, you will be warned again and/or blocked for increasing amounts of time for significant disruption. You can expect your next significant disruption to come with a 24 to 48 hr block, and further disruption to roughly double the duration of the blocks.

Welcome to edit constructively

Now that you're warned and aware of what the situation is -

I sincerely hope that you scale back the "other stuff" and get re-engaged with the encyclopedia project. We don't need single-minded article-edit only focused people. But we do need that to be the point of why you're here. I think and hope that you can do that.

Thanks. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 06:32, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Hope to see you around

I know this place can be insanely frustrating sometimes, but I hope to still see you around. -- Ned Scott 07:08, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Seconded. Take some time to clear your head and then get back here. - ALLSTAR 07:14, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Criticism of wikipedia

I had a question: Why are you interested in criticizing Misplaced Pages? Thanks. --Be happy!! (talk) 08:35, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Because Misplaced Pages has great potential to either:

  • Contribute to human knowledge
  • Contribute to human ignorance

What we do has the potential to change that. If Misplaced Pages fails, it will end up like television or the internet, where it contributes to human stupidity. If Misplaced Pages succeeds, it could be like a grand library, where it contributes to human knowledge.

This overall could have a substantial impact on world events, on whether one nation goes to war, on what economic policies nations are implemented (which affects human lives in a meaningful way, affecting their survival and quality-of-life), what politicians get elected, and more broadly, on how people love one another or hate eachother out of ignorance, and so on.

If Misplaced Pages is abused, misinformation will be spread. This ignorance, on a grand scale, can lead to things like war, tyrants rising to power, and violent crime. If Misplaced Pages succeeds, information will spread all across the world. This knowledge, on a grand scale, could lead to world peace and all of the idealistic goals the Foundation had when they started Misplaced Pages.

For more, see: M:Misplaced Pages and why it matters. Here is a chart that basically summarizes why Misplaced Pages is so important:

File:Misplaced Pages feedback loop.jpg

Imagine, for instance, what it would be like if the articles on Islam claimed that Islam supports terrorism and violence. It would have a cultural impact, too, because people unfortunately tend to believe what the read on Misplaced Pages is true.

You see this a lot in the Middle East, for instance, with the internet. Outside of the west, many people across the world have this false notion that if somebody uploads something to the internet, it must be true. That's really bad.   Zenwhat (talk) 08:48, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your detailed reply. Historically and universally all around the earth, always people were misinformed, always those who had power (money today) brainwashed people. So, I wouldn't worry myself much about that. It has been this way and it will be that way forever (my point of view). Misplaced Pages can improve it in many aspects and that's why it has upset many people. But since I have a pessimistic view regarding the capability of wikipedia to really do anything afterall, I personally would not worry much about failure or success of wikipedia my friend. --Be happy!! (talk) 09:04, 8 February 2008 (UTC)