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Sockpuppet

Eh? Who did? Where? Cheers, Dlohcierekim 14:50, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Nevermind. It's sorted. --Hammerandclaw (talk) 19:54, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Re:Userboxes

You are very welcome! I did not see the code I am afriad, but if you copy it onto my usertalk page - I'll put it onto your user page. If I can help you further, feel free to contact me. Tiddly-Tom 20:05, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I have put up those user boxes for you, if I can help you further, drop me a line. Tiddly-Tom 07:24, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Cheers man. Sorry to keep bothering you, but the vietnam war one does not show up for some reason. If you have the time to help, that would be much appreciated. I'm very grateful for the work you've been doing. Thanks--Hammerandclaw (talk) 21:27, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

No problem at all. The Vietnam War one appears when I look at it - it is right at the bottom of the list and because the link is not very clear due to the colours used. If this was the problem your experienced, tell me and I'm sure I can come up with something ;) Tiddly-Tom 23:27, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, that's the problem, the code's there, it's just not visible. Cheers.--Hammerandclaw (talk) 10:41, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

How about now? It is easy to change the colours if you wish. Tiddly-Tom 10:58, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

How do you do that? Perhaps I should try and get another one, or put it in a different place.--Hammerandclaw (talk) 11:00, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

That user box is now located on a sub page of yours (User:Hammerandclaw/Vietnam War) - I coped the code for it from the original location to put it onto your subpage, and changed the code to change the colours. I then created a special link to it on your user page which meant that it copied the user box across without the code. Tiddly-Tom 11:11, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Hey

Hey. Good to see someone is watching out for my spelling. Just a heads up that some editors might not like you editing their posts - even if it is just a spelling mistake. I have no objections at all though ;) When you did it, you entered a space at the begining of the next line. For some reason, this messes up the page display. It does

this.

I have fixed it, so don't worry about it With regards to your user boxes, you did not have to copy across that code, I had placed it at the bottom. To do this I added {{User:Hammerandclaw/Vietnam War}} to the list of user boxes on your page. This effectively copies the contents of the page (that is linked to) onto the page where the link is added. So at the moment you have two Vietnam War boxes ;) Your user page is messed up, on my browser at lest (boxes on top of each other) - I will have a look and see if I can fix it, if not, I'll contact someone who might be able to. Tiddly-Tom 21:47, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

How many Nam boxes do you have on your userpage (how many do you see)? I see two. When you look at the code, all you will see is {{User:Hammerandclaw/Vietnam War}} - it will not copy the code. This process is called transclusion. Tiddly-Tom 09:03, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

File:Burning Viet Cong base camp.jpg

This user is interested in the Vietnam War.

You see that? Tiddly-Tom 11:00, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes. Thanks, seems that all of the user boxes I try and put on aren't visible, it's really screwed. You want to put that code on the page I assume?--Hammerandclaw (talk) 11:03, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

How many Nam userboxes you see on your userpage now? Tiddly-Tom 11:06, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

One, but only half is visible. Others I've tried to add are not working.--Hammerandclaw (talk) 11:09, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

What do you meen by half visable? Tiddly-Tom 11:12, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Is this the only box you are having problems with? Can you see it fine here? Tiddly-Tom 11:18, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't know why you are experencing theise problems. If you can explain it well, the people at the help desk might be able to help you. Sorry! Tiddly-Tom 11:27, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Do you meen the other userboxes - or boxes in general? It is not that I have had enouth - I like helping people - its that I had run out of ideas! Tiddly-Tom 11:31, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

What about now? I'll be back later. Tiddly-Tom 11:56, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Fixed latest batch ;) Tiddly-Tom 13:07, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Apoc Now...

Certainly, if it does sound like a copyrighted source that you're familiar with then I'd be fine w/changing it so it isn't anymore BUT we cannot revert to that awful prev vers w/the section breaks (if that's what you're suggesting, I've been wrong before, of course, please tell me if I am!). As a librarian I just couldn't stand to see that vers. Also, the current summary isn't mine, it was done after I attempted to put the tag on (had some trouble w/the formatting), so it's someone else's work. So, send me the source & we'll go from there, ok? Thanks much! Tommyt (talk) 03:34, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Lost interest in the issue? Tommyt (talk) 16:03, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

apoc now

Not especially, it's just I don't judge you as being at the top of my priority list. All better?--Hammerandclaw (talk) 18:09, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

"All better?" Well, that depends on you, I think, & I'll quote you again, "I look forward to your reply" from 2/3. I guess you weren't looking forward to my reply after all. So, we'll just leave the matter there. Have a better one! Tommyt (talk) 19:03, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

I was actually referring to you getting so concerned over me not responding to your messages, but obvoiusly you failed to pick up on this. Speaking of which I waited longer for you to respond to me, than me to you, did you realise that? Third of all, I intend to re-write that summary, properly, and I won't need you to assist me in any way, so take leave.--Hammerandclaw (talk) 21:55, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, you may want to reconsider your rhetoric so others you communicate w/don't get the wrong impression, IE, you should use a phrase other than "it's just I don't judge you as being at the top of my priority list." That sounds quite dismissive. Just a piece of constructive criticism. It was your idea to furnish proof of a copyrighted source that you thought the summary had been lifted (for lack of a better term) from, but you obviously changed your mind & felt providing a reason was unnecessary. BTW, there will be others out there who will be willing to "assist" you, so be prepared. Misplaced Pages is about contribution to articles, not control of them. Tommyt (talk) 04:29, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Anyone offering assistance, I appreciate their offer, but not yours, since you couldn't actually write it yourself, no?--Hammerandclaw (talk) 10:48, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

So, in your opinion, I'm not permitted to contribute to the plot summary you plan to write? Or am I not qualified somehow? Hrrrrmmmm, not very Wikipedian of you, I'm afraid. I think I'll just have to watch it closely now... Tommyt (talk) 13:58, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

You're trying to tell me you work for Misplaced Pages? To quote you, "I tried to change the page but it was overturned." That seems to demonstrate other users were not impressed with your changes,so maybe you are not qualified to write the article after all. Care to explain what you tried to do?--Hammerandclaw (talk) 19:24, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Nope, I don't, not in the classical sense, so I'm not a member of Wpedia's "board of directors" or whatever entity governs it. BUT, as a registered user of W-pedia, I DO have the right to change any content I choose, so yes, I do work for Wik, & so do you. Whether or not my changes are accepted is up to my fellow users. When I tried to change the Apoc Now article I felt that something radical was necessary, the section breaks were badly done, the writing was poor, it had b/c bloated & unencyclopedic, so I tried to chop out the entire thing & replace it. I admit, not the best move. Someone reinstated the bad vers & I tried a more diplomatic approach; went to the talk page & requested that we tag the article (I'm a bit rusty w/attaching warning tags) to encourage others to help improve it. And it worked much better, so my headstrong attempt was clearly not the best method. I thought that more would agree w/me but I was wrong. Now, as for me not being qualified to write the article, I think I am. I've been a fan of the film for nearly 20 yrs, I own 2 diff vers of it on DVD, I eagerly went to a showing of the Redux Vers in Manhattan in 2001, I've read much literature on Vietnam & films about the war, & I have a degree in English & Literature. I also recognize that plot synopses in Wik are NOT the place for interpretive rhetoric, which seemed to plague the old vers. They should be concise, extraneous details should not be incl, like quotations, no matter how famous they are ("I love the smell of napalm..."); not necessary in summarizing the plot. I've written other summaries before & over the few yrs I've been contributing to Wik, I've learned that many of them are too long & bloated & full of fancruft. Also, sect breaks are generally discouraged; fans only put them there to make the article look better but they just sit there, taking up space. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tommyt (talk • contribs) 20:07, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

The napalm quote was there when I last checked. Anyway, your knowledge and interest in the film

is certainly not to be argued with, be it true, and, same as you I find the film, the war in general and the themes of the movie very interesting, but I still cannot bring myself to agree with you, in the main. Hmmm, tell you what, perhaps I shall try and locate the original writer of the article and vouch for his opinion. Till then, I'll leave the article alone. P.s You need to sign your posts. --Hammerandclaw (talk) 22:06, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I missed signing the last post, just a fluke, nothing more. Oh, my interest in the film be true, trust me! Yup, the napalm quote is there & it shouldn't be, along w/all the other quotes. They simply don't lend themselves to the synopsis. If anyone wants to hear it they should just watch the film. If they want to see how famous it is there's a myriad of books & even more websites out there w/probably 1000s of interpretations. Incl it will just encourage users to put blockquote formatting around it, increase the size, whatever. Pretty soon you're right back where you started, the article is bloated, crufty & ludicrous. BTW, look in the history sect under the date 1/23, some user named Tony Sidaway. Tommyt (talk) 05:18, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Internet Browser

Hey, I have a tool that might be useful for you, if you use FireFox. Drop me a note on my talk page, thanks ;) Tiddly-Tom 19:10, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Would you like to get involved in reverting vandalism? If so, I suggest you read this page and do as instructed. I then suggest you read this. After you have done that, read on with this message. I suggest you use Twinkle for reverting, and Lupins tool for finding vandalism. After you have put them both in your monobook, and refreshed your cache by clicking ctrl+shift+R, click on Recent IP edit in the left menu, then when edit appear, if they are vandalism, click diff then revert using the red twinkle revert button. When using lupins tool, I suggest you click the following boxes at the top: Ignore talk pages, Ignore pages outside the article namespace and Automatically expand new content. Good luck, and leave a message if you have any questions or problems. Tiddly-Tom 07:02, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Apocalypse Now

Why, hello! Now I have it that you are the writer of the new Apocalypse Now plot synopsis, would that be correct? If so, drop me a message on my talk page, I think we need to have a discussion on it...--Hammerandclaw (talk) 11:11, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi. The plot summary currently there was put there by me. It's a copy of the one at this old revision as edited by User:Freakofnurture at 14:17, 23 July 2006. I've just noticed you started a discussion on the talk page, and I'll take it up there. --Tony Sidaway 12:33, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

February 2008

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Misplaced Pages, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to User talk:Carcharoth, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. – nh.jg 18:43, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Your comment on User talk:Carcharoth

This is unacceptable. Continue attacking other editors will result a temporary or permanent revocation of your editing privileges from an admin due to your editing abuse. – nh.jg 18:49, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: hmmmm

Look man, I have been editing this thing for longer than you, so give me my due, and second, my crummy broadband can't process his goddamn page, do you understand???????!!!!!!!!!!…--Hammerandclaw (talk) 18:47, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah well you're not an admin. What the hell's the problem???--Hammerandclaw (talk) 18:52, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I am not an admin but please refrain from posting disruptive comments on user's talk pages. – nh.jg 18:55, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

User:Carcharoth‎

I don't know what you think this is going to acheive, but I see from your recent contributions that there is some kind of a dispute going on. That was not a productive way to go about solving it. Due to previous warnings I see on your talk page, consider this a final warning: I'm afraid I will have to block you for a short time if you vandalize anyone else's user page or talk page. --barneca (talk) 19:44, 18 February 2008 (UTC)