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| *i object, was only following ] "Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material — whether negative, positive, or just questionable — about living persons should be removed immediately and without discussion from Misplaced Pages article" | |||
| ::I don't know the subject of Hyphy, and perhaps the nominator does know enough to think this artist is minor. However, on the face of it there are quite a few reliable sources out there that give non-trivial coverage (including feature articles and interviews) with this person. There were two sources when it was nominated. I've added a few more and I think that's barely scratching the surface. He sounds like a fixture, well respected and integrated to the local hip-hop scene (which is one of the most active in the country) despite his young age. But again, I don't know the field. ] (]) 02:07, 20 February 2008 (UTC) | ::I don't know the subject of Hyphy, and perhaps the nominator does know enough to think this artist is minor. However, on the face of it there are quite a few reliable sources out there that give non-trivial coverage (including feature articles and interviews) with this person. There were two sources when it was nominated. I've added a few more and I think that's barely scratching the surface. He sounds like a fixture, well respected and integrated to the local hip-hop scene (which is one of the most active in the country) despite his young age. But again, I don't know the field. ] (]) 02:07, 20 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
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J Stalin This article should be deleted because this individual is completely lacking notability. There are no sources identifying notability. The one source is an article in a local paper about an upcoming article, such article are largely about up and comers and local non-notable performers. Does not meet WP:NOTABILITY.Boomgaylove (talk) 01:18, 20 February 2008 (UTC) He is not singed by a major record label, he hasn't sold a notable amount of records, no info on record sales at all. No major news sources.
Does not meet, Misplaced Pages:Notability (music)#Criteria for musicians and ensembles
- Template:Oppose/Delete-per aboveBoomgaylove (talk) 01:18, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
- i object, was only following WP:BLP "Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material — whether negative, positive, or just questionable — about living persons should be removed immediately and without discussion from Misplaced Pages article"
- I don't know the subject of Hyphy, and perhaps the nominator does know enough to think this artist is minor. However, on the face of it there are quite a few reliable sources out there that give non-trivial coverage (including feature articles and interviews) with this person. There were two sources when it was nominated. I've added a few more and I think that's barely scratching the surface. He sounds like a fixture, well respected and integrated to the local hip-hop scene (which is one of the most active in the country) despite his young age. But again, I don't know the field. Wikidemo (talk) 02:07, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
- please point those alleged several reliable sources here. "He sounds like" is not a valid argument.Boomgaylove (talk) 06:00, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
- It sure is a valid argument, conclusive in fact. If an artist is important in an important scenes, it supports notability. Wikidemo (talk) 08:04, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
- Keep. Notable Bay Area rapper who gets 46,600 Google hits. Also, sources have now been added to the article. And I can confirm what Wikidemo has already said: this man is notable within the Bay Area hip-hop community. Bash Kash (talk) 05:05, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
- the google hit arguement is not acceptable, and even so, major databases of musicians, news articles, or music website don't show up alongside his name. Largely just myspace myspace and more myspace. It doesn't matter if he is notable in the Bay Area music community, that's not enough for any artist to merit a wikipedia article, he must be of national importance really, nothing against J Stalin himself.Boomgaylove (talk) 06:03, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
- Note - the nominator appears to be bent on removing this artist from the encyclopedia, including removing sourced content and trying to delete the reference (repeatedly) from another article. If the nominator has some special reason to think this artist is not worth learning about on the encyclopedia despite lots of news references I would like to hear it. I don't have any stake in this either way. However, based purely on Misplaced Pages policies the artist clearly satisfies general notability criteria. Wikidemo (talk) 07:48, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
- the google hit arguement is not acceptable, and even so, major databases of musicians, news articles, or music website don't show up alongside his name. Largely just myspace myspace and more myspace. It doesn't matter if he is notable in the Bay Area music community, that's not enough for any artist to merit a wikipedia article, he must be of national importance really, nothing against J Stalin himself.Boomgaylove (talk) 06:03, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
How does he meet any WP:N? He does not meet absolutely any Misplaced Pages:Notability (music)#Criteria for musicians and ensembles, the burden of proof is on you to backup those claims.Boomgaylove (talk) 12:49, 20 February 2008 (UTC)