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:::::::That's the premise of the project, isn't it, notability being the threshold for inclusion? I think the place to sort that out is the article itself, or the notability standards if you think they're too inclusive. Deleting wikilinks is awfully indirect. Anyway, my main concern was to keep an eye on what looks like a pattern of disruptive edits. I have no interest in J-Stalin, though I almost feel like I know him by now. ] (]) 22:50, 20 February 2008 (UTC) :::::::That's the premise of the project, isn't it, notability being the threshold for inclusion? I think the place to sort that out is the article itself, or the notability standards if you think they're too inclusive. Deleting wikilinks is awfully indirect. Anyway, my main concern was to keep an eye on what looks like a pattern of disruptive edits. I have no interest in J-Stalin, though I almost feel like I know him by now. ] (]) 22:50, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

::Also your comments have led to me include you in ''my'' threshold for people with poor critical thinking and logic skills. I am smart!.] (]) 23:28, 21 February 2008 (UTC)


:]Let's add everyone and everything thats ever had anything to do or been to anywhere at any place near this neighborhood and the articles for west oakland, oakland, alameda county, california, and wtf not the U.S.A. too!] Ditto to IL2BA's strange bedfellow's comment. rofl. It gets removed, period, point, blank. This guy isn't even signed to a label. He claims to be, but its his own label, and he's the only artist on his alleged label. It's laughable. I just you vote to have the article deleted. It's so-called references are unobtainable "album notes" and other dubious sources like a review article about a performance in a dinky newspaper's lifestyle section which reads like a promo.] (]) 23:27, 21 February 2008 (UTC) :]Let's add everyone and everything thats ever had anything to do or been to anywhere at any place near this neighborhood and the articles for west oakland, oakland, alameda county, california, and wtf not the U.S.A. too!] Ditto to IL2BA's strange bedfellow's comment. rofl. It gets removed, period, point, blank. This guy isn't even signed to a label. He claims to be, but its his own label, and he's the only artist on his alleged label. It's laughable. I just you vote to have the article deleted. It's so-called references are unobtainable "album notes" and other dubious sources like a review article about a performance in a dinky newspaper's lifestyle section which reads like a promo.] (]) 23:27, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

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Stop adding J Stalin to this article he is inconsequential and is completely out of place for such a mini-stub of an article.Boomgaylove (talk) 13:02, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Stop edit warring over this. The information stays in. It is sourced, similar the kind of information that is appropriately included in many other articles, and your argument to remove it is invalid. There's no consensus to delete and, frankly, your opinion does not count because you have not been editing in good faith. You are simultaneously nominating his article for deletion claiming there are no sources, while erasing the sources and blanking the article, and trying to get him deleted here. If you keep this up you are going to be blocked. What gives? Wikidemo (talk) 16:19, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

not bad faith. doesn't belong here. let it go. i'm not the only one that thinks so. your swimming against the current dude.Boomgaylove (talk) 16:36, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

You do not have consensus for your improper edits. Please slow down and stop edit warring. Wikidemo (talk) 16:37, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
look i'm gonna make this real simple for you bro. You're wrong. 2 to 1. So stop it. Secondly, I am reporting you for continually accusing me of vandalism. That is a personal attack, and that is harrassment.Boomgaylove (talk) 17:07, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
You are misstating and playing games with policy and the notion of "consensus." Please go ahead. If you cannot figure this out on your own, AN/I is this way. Wikidemo (talk) 17:11, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I find myself, strangely enough, siding with "Boomgaylove" on this one. We're talking about a two-bit rapper here; they're a dime a dozen, so certainly not "notable". Every baggy-pants gangbanger around there aspires to be one, and lots of them end up releasing CDs with small distributions; so what? It should go. (By the bye, Wikidemo, it's probably fair to point out that you've already overstipped 3RR in your zealous restorations of this item.) +ILike2BeAnonymous (talk) 19:17, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I haven't gone past 3RR (more than 3 reversions in a 24-hour period) but I don't want to edit war, which is why I stopped reverting this problem user pending a community resolution. Although I do respect your edits on a number of subjects, I find your characterization of "baggy-pants gangbanger" shows a disrespect for the subject matter and possible insensitivity that does not seem encyclopedic. If a notable person is from a place it makes sense to say so in the article about the place, particularly if his origin is a significant part of his notability, e.g. a rapper from the projects whose work is in large part about describing life in the projects. There must be a few other notable people from those projects, but not a huge list, and perhaps the only good thing to come out of those projects is art. It's not going to be overlistification. That's begging the question of whether he's notable. Until proven otherwise I think we should assume that everyone who has an article here is notable. It's interesting to observe that a lot gets written about rap artists, even minor ones. They write a lot, and there is a lot of coverage, something I think we ought to celebrate and not deride.Wikidemo (talk) 20:36, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Just to address one point: "Until proven otherwise I think we should assume that everyone who has an article here is notable." Really? Either you must be extremely naive, or perhaps you've drunk too much of the Wiki-Kool-Aid to have a clear perspective on this. Surely you're aware of the vast amounts of flotsam and jetsam that get added here constantly, and the continual battle to separate out the truly "notable" articles from this sea of stuff. +ILike2BeAnonymous (talk) 21:39, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
That's the premise of the project, isn't it, notability being the threshold for inclusion? I think the place to sort that out is the article itself, or the notability standards if you think they're too inclusive. Deleting wikilinks is awfully indirect. Anyway, my main concern was to keep an eye on what looks like a pattern of disruptive edits. I have no interest in J-Stalin, though I almost feel like I know him by now. Wikidemo (talk) 22:50, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Also your comments have led to me include you in my threshold for people with poor critical thinking and logic skills. I am smart!.Boomgaylove (talk) 23:28, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
+Let's add everyone and everything thats ever had anything to do or been to anywhere at any place near this neighborhood and the articles for west oakland, oakland, alameda county, california, and wtf not the U.S.A. too!+ Ditto to IL2BA's strange bedfellow's comment. rofl. It gets removed, period, point, blank. This guy isn't even signed to a label. He claims to be, but its his own label, and he's the only artist on his alleged label. It's laughable. I just you vote to have the article deleted. It's so-called references are unobtainable "album notes" and other dubious sources like a review article about a performance in a dinky newspaper's lifestyle section which reads like a promo.Boomgaylove (talk) 23:27, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
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