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::: Its not censored, but neither is it a battleground or a indiscriminate collection of information. The question is not about your right to add a neutral flag or his right to remove it as a POV, but to ask what value does a flag add to an article. Unless an article is about a flag, the encyclopaedic value of adding one is negligible at best. Add in the sensitivity of ''that'' flag and there is often less than zero value. | ::: Its not censored, but neither is it a battleground or a indiscriminate collection of information. The question is not about your right to add a neutral flag or his right to remove it as a POV, but to ask what value does a flag add to an article. Unless an article is about a flag, the encyclopaedic value of adding one is negligible at best. Add in the sensitivity of ''that'' flag and there is often less than zero value. | ||
::: You may well have a valid argument on some articles, but that gets lost among edits like I don't see any consensus for your additions and (while there may or may not be consensus for the alternate position either) there is at least few different editors reverting your edits. So, in the current climate you have a predicament, but also few options. If you continue revert-warring with Padraig et al, then you will probably find yourself on probation. Alternatively, you find a way of coming to some sort of compromise, one article at a time. That requires editors to work together. If you come up with reasonable proposals without edit-warring and they are all rebuffed by Padraig, then come back and I will see what can be done to precipitate progress. ]<font color="black">e</font>] 07:27, 11 March 2008 (UTC) | ::: You may well have a valid argument on some articles, but that gets lost among edits like I don't see any consensus for your additions and (while there may or may not be consensus for the alternate position either) there is at least few different editors reverting your edits. So, in the current climate you have a predicament, but also few options. If you continue revert-warring with Padraig et al, then you will probably find yourself on probation. Alternatively, you find a way of coming to some sort of compromise, one article at a time. That requires editors to work together. If you come up with reasonable proposals without edit-warring and they are all rebuffed by Padraig, then come back and I will see what can be done to precipitate progress. ]<font color="black">e</font>] 07:27, 11 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::: I am rather busy the rest of this week, but I will come back with a list of proposals without edit warring per your offer. Thanks ] (]) 15:52, 11 March 2008 (UTC) |
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Both of you; nothing on the talk page, so that's just edit-warring pure and simple. Any more and I'll invoke probation. Black Kite 15:42, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
- Astrotrain stop edit warring on the Ulster Banner issue as you are on Portal:Northern Ireland/Intro and other articles. You have failed to provide WP:RS when ask on numerous occassions to support your claims, failure to do so means your edits are WP:OR.--Padraig (talk) 22:55, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
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This addition is pretty provocative and inconsistent with any other article in the series. The really isn't any encyclopaedic need for it, as already made clear by BHG. Please don't re-add it. Rockpocket 23:00, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
- Looking through your recent contributions, I have come to the conclusion that there is justifiable concerns being expressed about your focus on adding the Union Flag and Ulster Banner to a number of articles. These flags are contentious and thus we should ask ourselves what do our readers gain from having a flag on an article vs the inevitable disruption and bad feeling that their presence can invoke. I just don't see much benefit here. The flag is not official, therefore its representative value to us is minimal.
- There is a rapidly decreased tolerance for this sort of edit-warring since the ArbCom. You, I know from your comments elsewhere, are aware of what has happened to other editors who have pushed their luck. Please don't put yourself in that situations, since if you continue with these sorts of edits without getting consensus you will be placed on probation. The chances are this will be the last warning you will get. Please heed it. Thanks. Rockpocket 23:44, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
- Padraig's complaint's are just the latest in a longstanding campaign of harrassement. He constantly reverts any articles on flags to suit his own POV, and rejected any attempt at the last mediation to reach a compromise. He has worn down every other editor who has tried to reach a solution on this issue. The flag may be contentious, but it still exists and should not be avoided in case we offend, Misplaced Pages is not censored.Astrotrain (talk) 10:08, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
- Its not censored, but neither is it a battleground or a indiscriminate collection of information. The question is not about your right to add a neutral flag or his right to remove it as a POV, but to ask what value does a flag add to an article. Unless an article is about a flag, the encyclopaedic value of adding one is negligible at best. Add in the sensitivity of that flag and there is often less than zero value.
- You may well have a valid argument on some articles, but that gets lost among edits like this. I don't see any consensus for your additions and (while there may or may not be consensus for the alternate position either) there is at least few different editors reverting your edits. So, in the current climate you have a predicament, but also few options. If you continue revert-warring with Padraig et al, then you will probably find yourself on probation. Alternatively, you find a way of coming to some sort of compromise, one article at a time. That requires editors to work together. If you come up with reasonable proposals without edit-warring and they are all rebuffed by Padraig, then come back and I will see what can be done to precipitate progress. Rockpocket 07:27, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
- I am rather busy the rest of this week, but I will come back with a list of proposals without edit warring per your offer. Thanks Astrotrain (talk) 15:52, 11 March 2008 (UTC)