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:: Strongly disagree; the way we judge if something should be included is if reliable sources see fit to mention it. ] (]) 00:17, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:: Strongly disagree; the way we judge if something should be included is if reliable sources see fit to mention it. ] (]) 00:17, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:That is simply a partial and wikilawyering interpretation of how we work, and an extreme inclusionist approach. Notability is also important, BLP is also important, NPOV is also important (though the latter is not pasrticularly relevant here). Thanks, ] 00:21, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
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The source says that Murphy "launched his career with a bang by producing Quentin Tarantino and Oliver Stone's controversial 1994 movie "Natural Born Killers,". Firstly, lauching your carreer with a bang and rising to prominence aren't the same thing. Secondly, the source seems to indicate that he was the sole producers hence it is dubious as to how much of a "bang" his career was launched. Pocopocopocopoco (talk) 04:26, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Well I would point out that its only being used to source the statement that he rose to prominence due to Natural Born Killers - which is true. Also, the news source "Reuters/Hollywood Reporter" is rather more reliable than imbd (which, like Misplaced Pages, is user edited). If they view him as being the main producer, they're a reliable source for that... WjBscribe04:30, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
I don't think the real issue is whether or not he was born in New York but whether we should include it anyway now we can indeed source it. I would argue that we shouldn't include it on privacy grounds, I believe in this case we should try not to include any personal information and focus exclusively on his professional career, which this is not a part of. We already make clear he is American in the opening. Thanks, SqueakBox23:47, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Strongly disagree; the way we judge if something should be included is if reliable sources see fit to mention it. JoshuaZ (talk) 00:17, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
That is simply a partial and wikilawyering interpretation of how we work, and an extreme inclusionist approach. Notability is also important, BLP is also important, NPOV is also important (though the latter is not pasrticularly relevant here). Thanks, SqueakBox00:21, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
