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::Really. Show me the source that backs up your wonderful neutrality as displayed with this comment: ''I think the white supremacy is generally more associated with racism than black supremacy, as there are no forms of white supremacy (as far as I am aware) which cannot be termed "racist." Most forms of black supremacy are "racsit," but not all forms are. Many things associated with black supremacy are not in fact racist per se.'' Is there a source for this? Are you being serious that white supremacy is always racist and that black supremacy is noy in fact 'racist' per se? 'Supremacy' implies racial superiority, no matter how YOU feel about it. An standardization in the lead is a must. We will never reach consensus until you treat all race articles the same. ] ] 05:05, 10 April 2008 (UTC) ::Really. Show me the source that backs up your wonderful neutrality as displayed with this comment: ''I think the white supremacy is generally more associated with racism than black supremacy, as there are no forms of white supremacy (as far as I am aware) which cannot be termed "racist." Most forms of black supremacy are "racsit," but not all forms are. Many things associated with black supremacy are not in fact racist per se.'' Is there a source for this? Are you being serious that white supremacy is always racist and that black supremacy is noy in fact 'racist' per se? 'Supremacy' implies racial superiority, no matter how YOU feel about it. An standardization in the lead is a must. We will never reach consensus until you treat all race articles the same. ] ] 05:05, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
::: "''Supremacy implies racial superiority''" So what?. That does not mean it is racist. And standardization is not necessary, unless two topics are the same or similar. '''] ]''' 05:27, 10 April 2008 (UTC) ::: "''Supremacy implies racial superiority''" So what?. That does not mean it is racist. And standardization is not necessary, unless two topics are the same or similar. '''] ]''' 05:27, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
::::Black supremacy and white supremacy are similar. If Misplaced Pages defines racism as ''members of one racial group consider themselves intrinsically superior to members of other racial groups'' then you are deeply going against consensus when you say that racial superiority does not imply racism. But then again, it's really a moot point, considering your comments about race in general. That's why I'm building the Request for comment because anyone who feels it necessary to add the category 'racism' to the Michael Richards article, while removing the same category from The Black Panthers article has a skewed view and cannot remain neutral. You are far too biased to be editing race-related articles, Yahel. ] ] 05:34, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

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User:The Undertow, you reverted my edit which included sourcing all of your claims of OR. Yahel Guhan 03:58, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

'Racist' in Lead

Yahel Guhan insists on placing 'racist' in the lead of this article. Incidentally removes racist from the Black supremacy article. User also insists on "You can call it white nationalism, white suprematism, white pride, or anything else. It is all the same, in that it is all the same racist dogma designed to say white people are dominant to black people." So pretty much, I'm questioning the motives here, the clear POV pushing agenda and I want a source review with that last addition. Either all supremacy articles have 'racist' in the lead or none, but no more of this anti-white sentiment shown by a user who adds "Secondly, Black, Mexican, and white nationalism are not the same. Only white nationalism is racist, as it is white supremacy in disguise." I've warned you before that your edits are POV-pushing. Just because you have a source, doesn't necessarily mean it merits inclusion either. Please think long and hard about your behavior and how it does not represent each race with equality. the_undertow 04:07, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

We are never going to reach a consensus as long as you continue making personal attacks and uncivil ranting about how much you think I am a racist. Your only justification for removing the racist link is you want standardization. Standardization is not necessary when the concepts are different, and sources say they are different. Yahel Guhan 04:15, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Really. Show me the source that backs up your wonderful neutrality as displayed with this comment: I think the white supremacy is generally more associated with racism than black supremacy, as there are no forms of white supremacy (as far as I am aware) which cannot be termed "racist." Most forms of black supremacy are "racsit," but not all forms are. Many things associated with black supremacy are not in fact racist per se. Is there a source for this? Are you being serious that white supremacy is always racist and that black supremacy is noy in fact 'racist' per se? 'Supremacy' implies racial superiority, no matter how YOU feel about it. An standardization in the lead is a must. We will never reach consensus until you treat all race articles the same. the_undertow 05:05, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
"Supremacy implies racial superiority" So what?. That does not mean it is racist. And standardization is not necessary, unless two topics are the same or similar. Yahel Guhan 05:27, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Black supremacy and white supremacy are similar. If Misplaced Pages defines racism as members of one racial group consider themselves intrinsically superior to members of other racial groups then you are deeply going against consensus when you say that racial superiority does not imply racism. But then again, it's really a moot point, considering your comments about race in general. That's why I'm building the Request for comment because anyone who feels it necessary to add the category 'racism' to the Michael Richards article, while removing the same category from The Black Panthers article has a skewed view and cannot remain neutral. You are far too biased to be editing race-related articles, Yahel. the_undertow 05:34, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
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