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Prize money

Is anything known about how much prize money there is and how it is distributed? Is there an appearance fee? 84.189.81.81 18:54, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

In the years that I was there prizes were high, but each participant got something. I suppose it is still so. Van Oosterom can afford it. :-) Guido den Broeder 08:27, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Their website http://www.amberchess2008.com says the total prize fund is 216,000 Euro. Still the distribution seems to be secret. If the players receive an appearance fee is unknown as well. Anybody has inside informations? --84.189.102.26 (talk) 00:51, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Certainly, but inside information will remain just that. Guido den Broeder (talk) 16:39, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Books

is there any particular reason why Guido den Broeder is adding his own books to the list? With the use of google I noticed that the Magnana Mu publishing is his own company. That's weird. LucianoHdk 10:47, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

The reason is that these are the official tournament books (not all by me, btw). Mentioning them is therefore mandatory rather than 'promotion'. You may wish to check the Misplaced Pages:Help_desk where these matters are being discussed on a regular basis, e.g.:

Sources that are relevant are desired. Whether or not they are related to the person referencing is irrelevant. (The Rhymesmith, 26 July 2007).

If it still bothers you, you can always remove these references and then put them back yourself. That way, they have been added by you.

Regards, Guido den Broeder 23:20, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

The sources were removed by JacobH (a sysop on the Dutch Misplaced Pages). There is a discussion on the Dutch Misplaced Pages whether it is appropriate to add references to your own publications. Although it's not prohibited to cite oneself, the overall opinion is (on the Dutch Misplaced Pages) there is (at least) a conflict of interest.

I don't know if the tournement books of Guido den Broeder are relevant enough to be mentioned here (I'm not an expert in chess)...

Puck (talk) 22:09, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Puck. It seems to me that a Dutch admin has no jurisdiction here. This removal is a clear violation of the rules on en:Misplaced Pages, see the reference to the Help Desk above. Users from another language version would do well to first acquaint themselves with the prevailing ruleset, rather than create a single-purpose account to infect en:Misplaced Pages with a conflict that they nourish on their language version. Regards, Guido den Broeder (talk) 22:57, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I see no reason to include a partial list. Either all the books should be mentioned or they shouldn´t be included at all. I haven't seen these books so I cannot evaluate their importance. Are these books still published or was the series interrupted at some point? --Jisis (talk) 04:49, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi Jisis, the sixth book (by Nunn and Kohlmeyer) was the last one. Btw if you see the name of grandmaster John Nunn as an author, quality is assured. He is one of the most outstanding chess authors of all time, it was a great honour and pleasure to work with him. Guido den Broeder (talk) 07:37, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, I found one more (7th) book by the same authors. If there is no more discussion, I will add that one and your books later today. Yes, John Nunn doesn't need to be introduced.--Jisis (talk) 07:56, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey, cool! I never saw this book discussed in a magazine and didn't receive a copy. Makes you wonder, perhaps there are even more. Guido den Broeder (talk) 14:23, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

For your information: NL.wiki arbcom has taken severe measures against Guido den Broeder for self promotion. We have invented the unimportance of his work. Please don't help him. GijsvdL (talk) 12:07, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Invented, indeed. There are presently 3 Arbcom cases on nl:Misplaced Pages against JacobH & friends for copyright violation. Guido den Broeder (talk) 12:12, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I leave the edit war to others. By the way, Guido den Broeder added different authors for his last tournament book than I did. I used WorldCat and Google ISBN 90-5518-106-4 search. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jisis (talk • contribs) 12:22, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I used the book. :) Guido den Broeder (talk) 13:28, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

If no argument is made as to why the deleted sources are irrelevant while the others are, I will reinsert them. Guido den Broeder (talk) 14:57, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

You know the arguments, we're not going to repeat them every hour, if you don't hear anything for a few hours, that's not permission for re-adding your shameless self promotion. GijsvdL (talk) 22:01, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

WP:COS: This policy does not prohibit editors with specialist knowledge from adding their knowledge to Misplaced Pages, but it does prohibit them from drawing on their personal knowledge without citing their sources. If an editor has published the results of his or her research in a reliable publication, the editor may cite that source while writing in the third person and complying with our NPOV policy. Guido den Broeder (talk) 22:46, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Note that Guido has been blocked at NL at the moment. GijsvdL (talk) 23:00, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

It's being handled. Guido den Broeder (talk) 23:56, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Guido den Broeder has been blocked for two weeks this time, he's under strict supervision of a "mentor". Here's his track record of blocks on the Dutch wikipedia ; most due to selfpromoting activities. JacobH (talk) 07:40, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Links

I removed the external link to

• http://www.amberchess.com/ (16th Amber Blindfold and Rapid Chess Tournament 2007)

since it is no longer valid. The new link is:

• http://www.amberchess2008.com/ (17th Amber Blindfold and Rapid Chess Tournament 2008)

CSchoenberger 13:21, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Page title

The official name of the tournament is without 'Melody'. Guido den Broeder (talk) 23:57, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

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