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:Btw, one thing really annoys me now: the templates are created in such a fashion that they automatically include their articles in the county category. This means that subcategorizing them by level (commune, town etc) will not take them out of the parent, Anyway we can fix that? And, btw, ''why'' do those templates have to be so big? ] (]) 12:32, 18 April 2008 (UTC) | :Btw, one thing really annoys me now: the templates are created in such a fashion that they automatically include their articles in the county category. This means that subcategorizing them by level (commune, town etc) will not take them out of the parent, Anyway we can fix that? And, btw, ''why'' do those templates have to be so big? ] (]) 12:32, 18 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
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A star for you
Indeed. By the way, did you see this? Bwahahahahahaaaaa! ;-) K. Lásztocska 03:18, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Yay?
Yay? :) AdrianTM (talk) 02:27, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm preparing the champagne... just in case, if not, at least I can get drunk :D AdrianTM (talk) 03:23, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Unsinkable...nuclear...rowboats. Jeez. Just think, they'll still be talking about us centuries from now! Incidentally, do check out the link KIDB just posted to my page--the video is in English and it's hilarious...sad, but hilarious. K. Lásztocska 13:52, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
BTW, what does "cinstire eroilor" mean? K. Lásztocska 17:38, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
- something along the lines of "honor/praise the heroes" -- AdrianTM 17:48, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
- LOL at the deliberate ambiguity, but your main antagonist is gone now, so I'm afraid all you'll get is a few blank stares. But hold on, so you avoided making a pro-Legionnaire statement by issuing an outright provocation to the Transylvanian Hungarians?? Shame on you, you ultranationalist Székely-kicker! ;-) K. Lásztocska 00:08, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- But blue?! Doesn't that say "Lăncieri"? :D Dahn 01:21, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- Indeed: better dead than... but then there's Bluze Albastre ;) Not even I know where this came from... Dahn 03:22, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
BTW, you are not accused of being philofascist, you are accused of being a fascist canibal... (sorry, but I got an image of a painted canibal wearing a German helmet) :D AdrianTM 03:48, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- Ah but, you see, he admits to the charge of being a cannibal. It was bound to pop up sooner or later. :D Dahn 04:11, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- "Their mighty ships once again raised from their watery graves, our Intrepid Heroes of the good ships Dacia and Hungaria looked cautiously over the newly-calm waters, not daring yet to fully believe...but yes, it was true...could it be? The storm was over, the sea was peaceful, their latest battle had run its course. Hoisting their flags high to flutter cheerfully in the cool breeze, the various captains and admirals set sail for the mainland, there to beat their swords into plowshares and spend their time building great monuments in words to Romanian literature, Hungarian music, and various characters on all sides of the political spectrum. At last, all was well."
- Now, THAT'S how we should have ended it. (Dahn, did you see what odd path I've taken the Balaton tale down?) Incidentally, Biru, I got your message and have replied on the forum. :) :) :) K. Lásztocska 05:34, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- Well, you see, what I do is I enter the forum page, open the newest posts page, click on "Edit", "Find in this page", type "Dahn". I then proceed to read the five words before the highlight and the five words after. What I couldn't help notice is that there was no highlight for quite a while now, ahem.
- No, but really now: it's truly hilarious. The Arpads touch... I guffawed. But, hey, forget Funar: there's a new guy in town who, although he scored miserably at the Euro elections, knocked out Vadim and won more than Tokes (he's the new yardstick when it comes to ground-level agitation). Plus, he should add more color than the bland monomaniacal Funar. Here's the man, here's the dream. Enjoy. Dahn 06:03, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- What happened, have all the people who had a trace of common sense left Romania? Who can vote for such a guy? -- AdrianTM 06:45, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- Ask Biru ;). But no, hey, I'm mean. Becali didn't get that much - did he, after all, gain that one seat they were still hoping for? On the other hand, I came to admit myself that Becali is at least one class over Vadim: I mean, he is really simple, but, unlike Vadim, he is not of the feces family. Especially when it comes to insignificant offices such as MEP, I prefer Becali. Dahn 06:52, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- From the little I saw of him, he looks like a reasonably good stand-up comedian. Speaking of which, how come there is no one from Romania in Category:Stand-up comedians by country? How about Birlic, or Constantin Tănase — would they qualify for Category:Romanian stand-up comedians, if such a cat were to exist? Anyone alive that could go in such a cat (besides jeejee, that is)? Turgidson 07:05, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- Well, the fans made sure (I cringe...). Btw, we should have articles on Divertis and its members at some point. I did my share - does he qualify? Dahn 07:09, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- From the little I saw of him, he looks like a reasonably good stand-up comedian. Speaking of which, how come there is no one from Romania in Category:Stand-up comedians by country? How about Birlic, or Constantin Tănase — would they qualify for Category:Romanian stand-up comedians, if such a cat were to exist? Anyone alive that could go in such a cat (besides jeejee, that is)? Turgidson 07:05, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- Ask Biru ;). But no, hey, I'm mean. Becali didn't get that much - did he, after all, gain that one seat they were still hoping for? On the other hand, I came to admit myself that Becali is at least one class over Vadim: I mean, he is really simple, but, unlike Vadim, he is not of the feces family. Especially when it comes to insignificant offices such as MEP, I prefer Becali. Dahn 06:52, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- What happened, have all the people who had a trace of common sense left Romania? Who can vote for such a guy? -- AdrianTM 06:45, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- Backing up a bit: good Lord. Dahn, you're right, I completely left you out of the most recent chapter. *hangs head in shame and slinks off into a corner.* Glad you liked the Árpád bit though: it's a recent recurring daydream of mine, as in recent months I've become quite fascinated with early Hungarian history and mythology--the thought that there might still be an (illegitimate, most likely) Árpád line out in the backwoods somewhere, and also an excuse to bring the story of Prince Csaba into the mix. K. Lásztocska 16:13, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
DYK
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--Royalbroil 14:27, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
«Panoramic» image
It was not a personal Photo, just my mistake (I remembered I had one but it was b/w and not that detailed). This is a scannend image (can't remember where from though), not mine. Fair use. --Alex:Dan (talk) 10:00, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
what is this comment supposed to mean?
"more Nergaal specials coming our way" Nergaal (talk) 00:34, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- I believe it is more important to have a stub article that can appear in the queue of a search, than to wait until someone has the energy to write something decent. This means that there is an interest in having those articles. Also, once an article is created, there will be some interested users in de-stubing them, or at least in making them 'acceptable' (as you just proved). Please keep in mind that those many of your contributions have been well below our standards are only a part of way more many articles I create and expand. Nergaal (talk) 01:08, 6 December 2007 (UTC
Roger Federer records page
Not sure why you feel this should be deleted. It is very notable the records that he is breaking and it takes a considerable amount of time to compile the records together in one place, which is why the article is valid. If your complaint is the sources, then you should compel the authors to source each one of the records.
Benkenobi18 (talk) 03:28, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Juan Carlos
I think the section you removed should be retained although perhaps not the top section of it above Robert of Worms (which might be made up.) But the section below Robert of Worms is undeniably accurate and I think it adds to the article to see how the man's ancestry can be traced back to the beginnings of his royal house, the house of Robert - this line also happens to be one of the longest in the world, which is cause for mention.
If you disagree, can I suggest a move to House of Bourbon? There, it would show the ancestral beginnings of that house, which would definitely be useful.
Mark J (talk) 22:24, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
OK, that's fine. The same proposal appears to have been accepted by other royal houses, such as House of Tudor and House of Stuart. Cheers Mark J (talk) 16:56, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
ABP
Thanks, and yes, it looks quite reasonable. In fact, I don't know why they didn't simply add a "spouse" section in the infobox to begin with. Fascinating character, wouldn't you say? Dahn (talk) 18:05, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
- On Eliade: fire at your own will - I'm sure they can find a place in the article, and we could expand on them from some stuff I posted for safekeeping on the talk page there. The word I'm thinking of when it comes to the other articles you mention is "spam" - better the redlinks (or, well, nothing).
- In the meantime, I tickled the dragon on rowiki, and it seems that the controversy there revolves around a small cluster of people who actually want to promote extremist and antisemitic sites (or are even involved in promoting those sites). They write their own policies, act as if the project belongs to them, and have collectively flame warred me and other users with all sorts of attacks (some coming from an admin, who currently proposes demoting admins who do not agree with him). I want to take this further, because we are clearly talking about abuse, but just how much time and energy would this require? Little wonder that project has gone to hell. I'm as jaded as back in the Icarian days. Dahn (talk) 18:27, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you for the encouragement. As we stand, this is me and others praying to the Virgin (if you have the energy to read through it, you'll see what aspects this has come to involve, and who the usual suspects are - perhaps you could look through the recent history of the page, as you'll perhaps agree with me that two involved parties double as the prosecutor and the judge). Meta looks like a good next step, but one would have to start from scratch and deal with all the noise, threats and accusations yet again. This early assessment, alas, looks dead on for now. Dahn (talk) 19:25, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
- Argh! How could we get our hands on a PD photo of this? Dahn (talk) 23:25, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
- Their website says we can't. You can take photos if one pays 50 lei, but one can't use them for anything other than personal purposes. That's what they claim, but Paciurea died more than 70 years ago, so his sculpture is PD by now. bogdan (talk) 00:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- I remember brushing into that absurd regulation when I noticed how one user was, shall we say, braving it (which, if you were to ask me, was a merit - just what legislation does that state museum think it is operating under?). Dahn (talk) 00:32, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- Their website says we can't. You can take photos if one pays 50 lei, but one can't use them for anything other than personal purposes. That's what they claim, but Paciurea died more than 70 years ago, so his sculpture is PD by now. bogdan (talk) 00:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, they claim a "taxă de fotografiere profesionişti: 2000 lei / oră" which is absurdly high. The Louvre allows anyone to take photographs for free.
- BTW, I visited that museum last week and I was reprimated for doing something which a guard considered "obscene". (how do you dare kissing her? this is a museum!) :-) bogdan (talk) 00:40, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- What the guard did would only make sense if "her" was a painting or a sculpture. :) Dahn (talk) 00:43, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- I think they have no statue of Galatea, but they do have a copy of Rodin's The Kiss. :-) bogdan (talk) 00:48, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- And speaking of ABP, you did a terrific job with that article! bogdan (talk) 00:53, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you! It's all part of my hidden and subversive agenda. :D Dahn (talk) 01:06, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- I knew it! You're part of the Great World Conspiracy! BTW, next time you meet your Grey extra-terrestrial overlords, can you please take a picture of them? The article severely lacks a good photo. :P bogdan (talk) 10:24, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I'm going to disappoint you: you see, I don't work for those guys. I'm with these guys. :) Dahn (talk) 16:06, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- I knew it! You're part of the Great World Conspiracy! BTW, next time you meet your Grey extra-terrestrial overlords, can you please take a picture of them? The article severely lacks a good photo. :P bogdan (talk) 10:24, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you! It's all part of my hidden and subversive agenda. :D Dahn (talk) 01:06, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
WP:LOTD
You are the nominator of a WP:FL that was promoted in the last month. I am inviting you to participate in nominations and voting in a List of the Day experiment I am conducting at WP:LOTD.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 00:02, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Samuel Cony
Hello Biruitorul. Thank you for your contributions to the article Samuel Cony. I wish you all the best. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 02:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- Welcome! Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 03:21, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Cristero War - Mexican Revolution
It seems that you insist that the Cristero War had its roots on the Mexican Revolution. Could you please give some evidence to this?
Edsonland (talk) 06:24, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
- Now I agree that the Cristero War might have had its roots on the policies that where implemented on the post-revolutionary period. It just however doesn't seem to me that it was actually a consequence of the revolution happening. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Edsonland (talk • contribs) 05:34, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
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This arbitration case has closed and the final decision is available at the link above. Anonimu is banned from editing Misplaced Pages by the Arbitration Committee for a period of one year, to run concurrently with the existing indefinite community ban. This notice is given by a Clerk on behalf of the Arbitration Committee. Newyorkbrad (talk) 17:21, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Ratgeb
Hi, Thanks for your edits on the Jerg Ratgeb article. I agree with removing the flag icon (you should do the same on Albrecht Dürer), although I think removing the reference to Germany as his birthplace (as in Schwäbisch Gmünd, Holy Roman Empire) goes a bit too far. athinaios (talk) 17:36, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks. To be honest, I think it was ok either way. I think if one was very strict, one would have to say that it was already Germany then (after all, the full name of the Holy Roman Empire implies that strongly; the point appears to me that there was no unified German state then, not that there was no Germany), so that the über-correct version would be "Holy Roman Empire, now Federal Republic of Germany". And that would look awful. So let's leave it the way it is, or if you prefer, even the previous way you put it. Anyone who really want to know will presumably find out one way or the other. athinaios (talk) 00:07, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Socialist realism in Romania
Please excuse me again: I wanted to answer sooner, but, as you might have seen, I had quite the delurge to deal with (though it seems that, at last, more users are becoming aware of the problems). And thank you for the kind words of support on the WP:RS noticeboard.
Your article is a great start, but we may have to restructure it in oder to fit the references. As we stand, in addition to the three sources (VT, AC, LB) and, possibly, Victor Frunză, have handy two books by Cernat: one which is just a great read for this and other subjects, is incidentally already mentioned in the bibliography section; the other is the one I quoted in ABP, where one finds an interesting foray into the birth of socialist realism inside the Romanian avant-garde (with Roll, Bogza, Paraschivescu and some other guys). There should indeed be sources that link NC's style not just to Stalinism, but also to socialist realism, but I admit I haven't looked into them yet - it'll be one of my priorities when I do. Presumably, they could also be used to clarify what is perceived as "original" (Păunescu's introduction of distorted "flower power" litanies, Vadim's nationalism, the Palace of Parliament's baroque flowering etc.). I'm also with you on the issue of de-Stalinization; perhaps the article could mention the way in which Dej maneuvered against Jar and Constantinescu as part of his "I'm not Stalin" routine?
In addition to the trails you propose, there is indeed the issue of linking it to other articles, but I propose we leave the bulk of that to when we add more sourced content. I would also like to do something for flow in the sections that read like lists: presumably, one could turn them into commentary using sources as a basis.
There is still quite a lot to add, though. At the moment, I'm thinking about linking the concept to the ARLUS, the birth of Onirism, the return of various socialist realists to their avant-garde origins and the start of their quiet dissidence, and, of course, a closer look into visual arts. We could also look, for example, in the Radio Free Europe archives for the period, where lots of interesting and immediately available stuff is just waiting to be picked.
One of the major problems this article has is that of quotes already in the text. Presuming we start citing the sources, what do we do if they aren't to be found in those available? Do we just strike them out? For example, I'm not sure that I can find the exact source for Beniuc's definition of the socialist realist poet; on the other hand, I could easily replace it with traceable quotes of the same nature. Dahn (talk) 04:02, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, and: I would live the article on propaganda for later on. It is bound to be massive and require a lot of research, and we have to think of ways to structure it and somehow glue it to already existing articles. I would have to say it sounds a bit superfluous having a separate article for it, but it is certainly not unreasonable. Dahn (talk) 04:13, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Technically, I'd rather have a secondary source telling me that it is relevant than a wikipedian, but, yeah, okay. It could even go in without page numbers, if all else is cited fully. Unless it gets too complex, you could perhaps ask him/her if there is anything else he got from that issue to use in the article, and if he actually read it himself/herself. Dahn (talk) 11:35, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Accident in Saint-Paul
Thank you for the translation. The right number is 27, thus 23+4. By the way, I think that you should change guardrails with something like slope, as a rampe is a part of a road with a high gradient and not only something that will prevent you from falling. Thierry Caro (talk) 11:02, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Semantron
Greetings! Well, I think that its usage in Bulgaria these days is very rear. Perhaps you can find semantrons in a few churches built during the Ottoman domination but it is usually replaced with bells as far as I have seen. Still it was widespread before 1878 so I will add Bulgaria and the Bulgarian name. Thank you for noting me that : ) Best, --Gligan (talk) 13:53, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
On 21 December, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Semantron, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
--Royalbroil 01:52, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Merry Christmas
Hi Biruitorul! I wish you a Merry Christmas and all the best in the new year. - Darwinek (talk) 12:14, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
- I still have not figured out whether Romanians celebrate Christmas on Dec. 25 or Jan. 7, but whenever you do celebrate it (maybe twice?) have a very happy one! :) Cheers, K. Lásztocska 03:47, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
DYK
On 23 December, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Accident on the Saint-Paul ramps, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
--Maxim(talk) 00:22, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Crăciun fericit
Well put, and I'm sure they are not thinking about us on May 1st. And Merry Christmas to you too! Dahn (talk) 08:51, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Merry Christmas
salut, ai un e-mail sau o adresa de messenger?
salut, ai un e-mail sau o adresa de messenger, vreau sa discut ceva cu tine Adrianzax (talk) 17:35, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
speaking of wikimail, check yours...something very strange appears to be afoot...KL
CIA related articles
In the spirit of good faith and my attempt to improve a prior article with much POV in all directions, shall we discuss how intelligence generally, and CIA-specific, articles may be improved, rather than immediately calling for deletion? As you mentioned, there is coherent prose and sourcing, which should be a starting point for improvement, not a call for deleting everything around it.
Incidentally, there is a new Intelligence Task Force under the Military History project, and there has been some discussion of the challenges of writing NPOV articles on intelligence, not overly influenced by fiction or politics, on the general project list. Howard C. Berkowitz (talk) 21:46, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
AFDs
As a common courtesy, please notify article creators when you nominate their articles for AFD. Thanks. The Evil Spartan (talk) 04:46, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Ktitor
Hi, I was writing an article and came across the term Ktitor.. it's just a stub now, but I remember you asked me about it some time ago. Would you like to help expand it some? —dima/talk/ 00:25, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
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2006 Ferentari riot
I don't know if you noticed that you were reverted at 2006 Ferentari riot. Yes, the material is poorly written and some of it is of dubious relevance, but the former can be fixed and the latter should probably be argued out on the article talk page.
Right now, the poorly written mess is the article, so it might well be worth getting back to. There does seem to be at least one relevant substantive disagreement: whether the deaths of the children occurred before the riot and were a triggering event, or after and it was simply a coincidence. I have no idea of the facts, but I assume that source materials should be able to clarify this.
Anyway, best of luck hope all is going well. - Jmabel | Talk 19:53, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Featured article review/John Day (printer)
Hi there. User:qp10qp and I have done a lot of work trying to bring this up to current FA standards. Could you take a look at the article again and comment at the FAR? Many thanks. BuddingJournalist 21:14, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Ooh, boy...
It looks like I am as close to getting the (much coveted) "Romanian Nazi" label as I'll ever be. Be still, my heart! --Illythr (talk) 03:55, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Reply
Thank you for contacting me, Biruitorul. I'm a bit busy at the moment but will have a look at that situation in a couple of hours or so. Best regards, Húsönd 22:40, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- Well, seems like another user has already called on Mrg3105 to be civil and cease his accusations. He hasn't been uncivil again (at least on that talk page) and hopefully so he shall continue. Please report any further incivility/trolling. The Digwuren restriction may indeed apply here, but I was involved in this particular discussion so you would need an uninvolved admin to enforce it. Best regards, Húsönd 02:45, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Ah...
Happy New Year, and thank you for the welcome! I am bordering on rudeness yet again with my delays, so please accept my apologies (on the other hand, we do seem to have our hands full thanks to some newcomers and some old faces... akh!). To answer your questions: I still have no clue as to 1) and 2) - I let too much time slip between my edits in those areas and the present situation, so I wouldn't know where to pick at it. On the template issue: I could see no particular problem in what the one we had previously (i.e.: presidents), but it seems there's too many windmills out there for us Don Quixotes... It looks pretty silly to me, but, as long as it's not abhorrent, whatever keeps them content... (incidentally, how about Antonescu's weird job? if anything, what does that imply for such templates?). A for the "President" article, well, it currently looks like crap, but I'm not sure what the best approach is. Dahn (talk) 23:35, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- I share your feelings about the whole shabang, but I will add that both sides in that conflict, as usual in anything on that scale involving Romanian articles, have moved outside the realm of logic and common sense. this is why I chose not to waste my time trying to see what they're on about at the moment. The sample text you linked is indeed weird, and, yes, it does not seem like those guys have thought it through or compared it with other cases. While, yes, many people still use "Rumania" and "Roumania", I cannot see this as material for the lead. It is equally odd that this is not mentioned in the somewhere in the text. But then, the perfect solution was just in front of our eyes: I'll call it the Rakovsky solution! (Not entirely out of my head: there is a specification somewhere that, if there are alternate names or there is something to say about alternate names, editors are to consider starting a special section.)
- I also avoided commenting on the Iaşi-Chişinău article - for one, it's one of those "a rose by any other name" things, and, quite simply, both possibilities looked equally convincing for me. It's also that discussions like this tend to attract the usual crew on both sides, and rarely see the end of them. But, yes indeed, those comments were an outrage, and that guy was seriously out of line. The stupidest part of this pretense national gang war is that, for each guy who accuses editors of x nation form a gang there is a guy in that x nation who demands from his compatriots to form a gang (or acts as if they already form one).
- The Ploieşti article is now as appealing as a latrine. I remember I saw it being hijacked a while back, I saw Turgidson trying to get in the way and giving up, and I kept wanting to fix at least part of it just before it suffered even more casualties (needless to say, the diacritics thing didn't help at all...). Eh, eventually... Dahn (talk) 04:05, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
- A couple of issues concerning Eliade. Entirely by accident, I bumped into a source that discussed his marital status and the other details you brought up on the talk page - if you still want to add from your source (provided it was not the same source), I can't see any problem with it, but there is, of course, no more "sense of urgency". However, other issues have popped up or moved to the forefront. For starters, was he actually an American citizen? With the characteristic dose of confidence, in what is a characteristically ridiculous article on Eliade, rowiki says that he was "naturalized an American citizen in 1966". Fine, I take that for granted, and ask myself what source they used. So far, I see that the Anglo-Saxon world seems to have no recollection of that fact, whereas the Romanian-speaking world flows over with sites of the forum and blog level who repeat verbatim the claim made by rowiki (or the other way, or whichever). Do you think it possible that we actually find a credible source discussing this aspect, either backing up or refuting the rowiki claim? Another question I would like to see answered eventually is what did he actually die of?
- In case you are interested, it would be a major boost for the article if you were to have access to another source discussing Eliade's fiction works - George Călinescu is rather dated and dismissive, while the only other readily available source I found is indeed valuable, but short and vague. Something that would actually explain what the stories are about and trace connections between them would be marvelous. Dahn (talk) 04:27, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Of course. Dahn (talk) 00:59, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Waaay ahead of you :). But how on Earth did I miss those two, Biru? It's only now that I notice them (I probably lost them in the backlog). They're excellent ideas, and, yes, by all means, let's have them in. (On the PCR one, a note might be in order for the pre-1945 troika, but it's not an absolutely necessary addition.) Dahn (talk) 02:18, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- I shall happily delegate that honor to the creator of the templates. Again: great stuff! On a partly related topic: do you have the feeling that I, you, Turgidson and perhaps Bogdan are turning into the Romanian-side-of-the-English-wiki's Humphrey Applebies? :D Dahn (talk) 07:14, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
What do you mean? As I said, I think that "warning" was unwarranted, but did it actually carry any consequences? O do you mean to say he does not want to edit anymore? I certainly hope not! (I'm about to log off now, but I'll be back later in the day - I apologize in advance for the possible delay in replying.) Dahn (talk) 17:04, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- That's awful news! Is there any chance he would reconsider the decision? Dahn (talk) 19:31, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Forget Appleby, this is Tammany Hall! :D You can count on my support, and I'm looking forward to the vote. Dahn (talk) 22:06, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- You can count on my support too (I don't know how much is worth though considering that I don't have a good reputation -- and not plan to build one ;) AdrianTM (talk) 22:08, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Help! Dahn (talk) 22:36, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Tout en gardant la foi, I have to say I'm looking forward to seeing an end to this wikibreak of yours :). It's got more boring around here. I just want to let you know that I might not be very active between mid and late March, when I'm off on a trip - I'm not sure that I'll have reasonable internet access there. If you want my vote (I hope you do, even though I'm sure you'll have no problems winning with or without it), you might consider scheduling running in early March or early April. I was going to tell you about this later, but I saw the message on KL's page. Dahn (talk) 09:58, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Complicated stuff. For starters, I think such an article should rely on something other (or at least something more) than a blog page, which is currently the only reference it has. But yes, that is a good solution to several of our traditional problems. However, as I mentioned before, it would be a gruesome task to make sense of the pre-1945 situation. Aside from the lack of complete info in one place, you would not believe how much sources diverge on who was what and where - especially for the years when the PCR was supposedly several parties (one in Moscow, one in Doftana, and one in Bessarabia). The thing that is hardest to figure out is why those lists differ, and if authors really contradict each other. Throw in "revolutionary legality" (i.e. the communists not really caring who was what), and you have the basic ingredients for a mess. Dahn (talk) 20:09, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Michael the Brave
Hi Biru, I just overhauled this article and would like to put it on A-class review as soon as posible. However any additions or copyedit would be welcome. Just take a look when you have some time... Best, --Eurocopter tigre (talk) 18:35, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi
I don't intend to move it back to the wrong orthography. The ș and ț are supported on all operating systems which have Unicode support — those that don't should probably not be editting Misplaced Pages. If you would like to open up a larger RFC on ș and ț versus the other forms I would be more than willing to cast my opinion there. Dahn appears to have done a copy/paste move to restore the Ploiești article which is in violation of the GPL. I've rectified the situation as you requested. - Francis Tyers · 07:50, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
St. Elizabeth's Church, Wiesbaden
On 23 January, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article St. Elizabeth's Church, Wiesbaden, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
--BorgQueen (talk) 09:38, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
It's gold, I tell ye!
I spoke you speak better German than I do, because I found a lovely source for us to use: see pages 79-98 here (I guess the yellow will also point out who my next article is gonna be about...). Dahn (talk) 07:26, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- Hm, I hadn't actually connected the DYK with the question (a really cool one, btw!) I was asking - though now it seems that I could have. Don't worry, I won't hold that against you :). Machine is what I do too (more or less - I actually pick it up word by word from dictionaries and see where that gets me; I have to say it was much easier with Catalan...). Here's what I was thinking: there is this magical button on our keyboard that can help us store the text and bypass the, well, changes that may occur in viewing ;). I'm thinking of using it and then try a bit-by-bit approach to translation. The important thing is that it so very complete and so well-structured for what we need, and that we should get "a hold" of it to cover the gaps. Once I'm done with other things, I'll see about that, and you might consider doing the same. That way, we can work it whenever we can give it our undivided attention. Dahn (talk) 23:59, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
My RfA
Thanks for your support at my request for adminship, which passed today with 42/0/0!
I would like to thank Wizardman for nominating me, ] and everyone else for their support and comments. I'll continue with contributing to the encyclopedia's content (hopefully writing an FA here and there :) and will help out with admin-related tasks which you just entrusted me with. If you need any help, don't hesitate to ask! Thanks again, —dima/talk/ 01:47, 26 January 2008 (UTC) |
Translations and references
Hello,
You really do a great job in translating the articles I (mostly) wrote. I added two references on the Morea exped, still looking for the last one. I'll read History of the Cyclades after a good night sleep. It's not yet finished : roman and byzantine periods are still a little short : big reference problem : my university library is relatively poor and byzantine period is one of the subjects of the competitive exam to recruit teachers (Agregation) this year, so the other libraries wont lend their books.
If you are looking for "neutral" featured articles to translate, you should try fr:Siège de Tripolizza compared to Fall of Tripolitsa or even better fr:Massacre de Psara compared to Destruction of Psara.
I think I should some day try to pay you back and translate one of your best articles. Got anything real good and neutral about Alexander Ypsilantis (1792-1828) war in Moldavia and Wallachia ?
Thanks again, Cedric B. (talk) 00:49, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Idem
I'd like to thank you for this translation. Thierry Caro (talk) 01:06, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
dyk
On 29 January, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Cyclades, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
-- well done Victuallers (talk) 21:06, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
On 2 February, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article L'Âme de la France, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Nice article, by the way! Lovely pictures and lots of interesting information. Adam Cuerden 05:46, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Romanian calendar
Since you are the creator of and most prolific contributor to Romanian calendar, please help out here. — AjaxSmack 21:11, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Barthélemy Boganda
Excellent work a few months ago with Barthélemy Boganda. I found the subject quite compelling, and I'm considering bringing it to FA status. Since this is the first time I've actually heard about this guy, could you tell me if article is "complete"? Do you think it can be significantly expanded? Thanks, Nishkid64 (talk) 19:09, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Alright, I'll start looking into the images, and I'll be working on the article, copyediting, expanding and referencing, when appropriate. I picked up two of the book references used (Dark Age and Historical Dictionary) from my uni library. It appears Pierre Kalck, the author of Historical Dictionary of the Central African Republic also wrote a biography on Boganda (Google Books). Unfortunately, I could not find it any of the area university libraries, and Google Books does not offer a preview of the book. Nishkid64 (talk) 06:03, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, sorry about that. I knew I wrote down the wrong number, but I forgot to change it. Thanks for that! By the way, this should be at FAC in less than a week (hopefully). Nishkid64 (talk) 16:12, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Moldova
I saw your edits on Warsaw pact invasion of Czechoslovakia. Now we have a comparison of it to ... the intervention of Romanian troups in Moldova in 1918! :Dc76\ 19:49, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Do you have an opinion about renaming Tighina? (See the talk page of the article). If you don't have an opinion, don't feel obliged to answer. :Dc76\ 18:50, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Operation Straw Poll
Hi, since you took part in the discussion about renaming this article, you may be interested in participating in a most evil poll to determine the public opinion on the naming issue. --Illythr (talk) 20:12, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
A proposal
A bunch of users that sign below would like to significantly increase your Wiki-addiction level. Please visit the torture chamber to see what this process entails, and then accept (or try to reject) your fate. A page has already been created for this procedure. If you accept the nomination, you must formally state and sign your acceptance and answer the questions on that page. Once you have answered the questions, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so.- Illythr (talk) 20:41, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
- Jmabel | Talk 20:29, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
- Dc76\ 20:53, 6 March 2008 (UTC) (signatures are just copied the RfA page)
Greetings
In case you still don't know, we're about to crucify you. So please, be a nice guy and step onto the executioner's block, will ya? --Illythr (talk) 20:49, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
- :-) you've got a sense of humor, Illythr ! (i have to leave for the night, but I'll be back tomorrow, cheers, everyone):Dc76\ 20:55, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
- Aww, spoilsport! --Illythr (talk) 21:10, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
If this is crucifying, then allow me to sign up before the rooster crows today. Dahn (talk) 00:02, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
SSRs versus not in templates
To your question, it should be standard procedure to not mix SSRs and their independent selves, particularly not for the Baltics. So, presidents and first secretaries don't mix, ministers, heads of parliaments, etc. —PētersV (talk) 02:54, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yup, no mix! At the end of the day SSR versus independent is apples to oranges whether officials are called the same or something different. —PētersV (talk) 03:07, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
UAR Building / Casa Păucescu
I assume that you know the UAR Building in Bucharest (formerly Casa Păucescu, right on Piaţa Revoluţiei). I'm working on an article about it for Architectural Glass magazine. I've been trying (and failing) to find out who was the original architect of Casa Păucescu (1898, I believe) and what it was used for from 1914 until it became a Securitate building. Any ideas for leads? I wrote the UAR, but they seem not to be replying. - Jmabel | Talk 06:26, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Moldova, Moldovan language
As I expected, the provocations of User:Xasha become clearer, and there is an involvement of User:El C and User:Mikkalai. There is also Bonny, but I'm concerned another edit war will start. Dpotop (talk) 10:54, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, there's Irpen, too. :) And I got a warning under the blanket "Eastern Europe" decision of the Digwuren case. From El_C, or course. Dpotop (talk) 12:31, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
- I have to apologize in advance that my editing time over the next few weeks will be close to non-existent. My (temporary) editing swan song was completing cleanup of a section in the Denial of the Holodomor article.
- The only method for dealing with WP:OR et al. that has worked for Moldova/Transnistria is to use/quote the Charles King book (The Moldovans) as the best and most highly regarded reference available. Magosci's Historical Atlas of East Central Europe is the most highly regarded current work (recently revised) on the wider region. There's also Upton Clark's excellent 1927 book, Bessarabia, available online. Hope this helps! —PētersV (talk) 17:27, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Question
Hi there. Barthélemy Boganda is currently at FAC. Upon suggestion from Dahn, I added sources for the reference notes in the article. While doing this, I noticed that one of the notes provides a direct quote from preamble of the CAR's 2004 constitution. I tried looking for the quote online (or the CAR constitution for that matter), but I had no success. I was hoping that you could tell me where you got the material or point me in the right path to it. Thanks and good luck on the RfA! Nishkid64 (Make articles, not love) 05:31, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, you're quick! Nishkid64 (Make articles, not love) 05:35, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
- By the way, I edited Image:Brassovia.jpg. I hope that my correction will stop BetacommandBot from readding the tag. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not love) 05:43, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Edit summaries usage on your RfA
Hi. Do you mind using edit summaries on the RfA? It'll help me a bit. Thanks in advance. El_C 05:59, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
- I just think that limiting these to mainspace is problematic. I find it useful to have pertinent (and not just "r" or "c") summaries for comments and so on; especially as a record to look back at. Does that make sense to you? El_C 07:01, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Your RFA
No problem. I'm glad we got that issue cleared up. Spencer 17:52, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
"Intelligent, strongly nationalistic..."
How about marking it as a quote and an "according to"? If that's a verbatim, just add quotation marks to it. If not, replace it with a verbatim. Sorry, but it looks terribly strange as it is now. Dahn (talk) 18:26, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
- Nothing against them being in the text, but, even as positive assessments, they could easily be seen as non-neutrally voiced if seen only as plain text. How about a "whom Titley describes as..." before a verbatim quote? Dahn (talk) 19:40, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
It's your call really. If you think that the assessment still has a place there, I will not dispute that, and if you ultimately decide that it doesn't, I will be saying that was the better choice. It depends on whether you ultimately decide to keep it, and is a question of personal preferences - since you are the editor, it should actually be your preferences. With or without the phrase, the article is just about perfect. Dahn (talk) 20:38, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
- I'm okay with it if you place the words in quotes. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not love) 22:02, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Great stuff. I'm not questioning your reasons, but I'm a bit curious: why did you not upload them directly to commons?
Oh, and: concerning your earlier post. I'm jaded enough by the very proliferation of "x-y relations", and especially by the fact that Bonnie's nonsense has become official in this case. So I won't look into that particular issue for now. As for the other articles: let's burn them. (Who by fire?)* Dahn (talk) 18:55, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
- Well, yeah, but then they do say that commons is for stuff that wikipedia may not need at all (I think I read it in the form for uploading images here, as opposed to there - something like a "consider if they're not more suitable there"). Plus, you know, if they do have a use here, and they are uploaded on wiki, they will eventually be moved to commons - since they're copyright-free. And let me add: they do most certainly have a use here, each and all, and the more of them the better. Even if they were not encyclopedic (and they are!), they would still be much more relevant than, say, all those photos some exhibitionists take of themselves and post on commons.
- (And I'm so with you on having something substantial about the ceferişti in the CFR article! Something to do in the future...) Dahn (talk) 19:41, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Does this prove your arguments in favor of nationalism extend to Third World liberation movements, or is it one "remember Fachoda" from a Rule Britannia kind of guy? ;) Dahn (talk) 02:15, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
*At your convenience, though: I've seen what your AfD initiatives have generated - as justified as you were, are, and will be in proposing them for deletion, I am sure that having to explain yourself every time to every opinionated RfA voter is something you're not keen on doing right now. Dahn (talk) 19:02, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Hawaiian independence
What is the rationale here? Should Hawaii be forced into independence despite the wish of the vast majority of its residents? Should the monarchy and native culture be restored, and the 75% of Hawaiians who are not of native blood be deported? What's the plan? And why independence for Hawaii, and not other parts of the US which have separate identities and have actually attempted to achieve independence in the past? Because it's an island? 65.190.89.154 (talk) 19:00, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
- Fair enough - glad to have an answer. I don't necessarily agree - it strikes me as the imposition of ideology on a populace that doesn't necessarily want any part of it, which is generally not my bag - but that's a nice and straightforward answer. Let me go and support your RFA with my current projectspace account. 65.190.89.154 (talk) 19:23, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Future interest in collaborations?
Just wondering, but would you be interested in collaborating on articles of other politicians like David Dacko, Abel Goumba or Jean-Bédel Bokassa? I've got both Kalck books and Titley right next to me, and then there's Google Books for the other sources. All three guys are quite interesting, and I'm probably going to start working on them soon. Let me know what you think. Thanks, Nishkid64 (Make articles, not love) 22:46, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Your RfA
Sorry, very rude of me. I forgot to drop you a line to tell you I'd left you an optional question at your RfA. --Dweller (talk) 16:13, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Congratulations
Let me be the first. Dahn (talk) 00:58, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- I've now descended from the mountain to give you my answers :). Let me just say I wasn't trying to get you to use commons - after all, you may do what you want with the pictures you take; I'm glad we get to use them either way. I didn't yet add those to the Rădulescu-Motru article because I sometimes get tired of visiting the old pages, and because what has been going on there lately is, as you noticed, not to my liking. I also don't mean to seem like I'm dragging you into side discussions about African nationalism: you must have plenty on your mind, and are right to be upset about the other issues you cite, so please only mind those comments of mine if you think they're worth your time. I was glad, though, that you replied to this issue as well (again, your punctuality puts me to shame), and this especially since we seem to be in agreement. And, when it comes to France's post-colonial policy as compared to Britain: the Brits tended to make sure that it all went to shambles when they left, but at least they left! I read somewhere that, when Sekou told the French they could expect "cooperation" after Guinea's independence, the departing administrators vandalized their own offices. And, indeed, many of these guys were monsters (though prolly not Houphouët-Boigny); though it's also quite obvious that the Africans didn't have many choices in the Cold War world (I for one will say that the Soviet intervention in Africa had at least some constructive effects, whereas the Western one mostly degenerated into the worst of the worst - but that is probably just a coincidence attributable to the Soviets' willingness to get less "value" for money, and comparable to what the Italians were doing in Ethiopia).
- On ceferişti. When Ronline wrote the article, wiki apparently had quite different standards. The article did not fail those, and probably doesn't fail most of today's. On the other hand, this aspect was probably not even on his mind - one more reason to carefully consider articles before they are promoted (unlike the FA & A-class nomination craze around here, to which Boganda was an exception). Kudos on the collectivization article. From my part, I shall be probably be visiting it when I get back from my trip (I'm leaving on Saturday), as I'm not sure I'll be able to do start something i can finish before that.
- "Military history"? Much of it looks like forking to me, but whatever. It's another one of those articles that looks like it's not going anywhere yet...
- I was following the other front, and I did reply just now to one of the more annoying clichés vented there. For the love of me, where do they get the idea that you are "juvenile" (let alone the stuff about WWI...)? Bah... sticks and stones, Biru. Anyway, what is the margin you need there, and how much does admin review count? Dahn (talk) 10:16, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, and: amen to that! I was going to remove it myself at some point. Since by now I guess you checked out my expansion of Sfarmă-Piatră (I discovered the stub by following you around, so it's *all* good), what do you think of the Sadoveanu detail? I think I'll visit that article for an encore as soon as I can, so we may check that on our lists :). Dahn (talk) 11:11, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Biru, that was the funniest... post... ever! Thank you for that, and know that I'm still laughing as I'm writing this.
If you were to start the ESRB RfA (which I would fully support, as much as I enjoy seeing boobies on very muscular and androgynous virtual girls), you'd have not only get all the usual crew on your back, you'd also become a moving target for those hobbits who put these articles together. Though I'd probably set the bar lower than you when it comes to albums (to something that would include lovely obscurities such as Candy Apple Grey, Veuillez rendre l'âme (à qui elle appartient) and stuff from Zabranjeno Pušenje), I have to agree that the current is too much: I wonder if they set themselves some minimal standard of notability, which is imperative now that the line between the chart system and internet meme is effectively blurred.
And we agree 100% on the essay. in fact, I was thinking about something on the same lines, but didn't know where I wanted to go with it. I have an additional observation to make on this phenomenon, and I dare say it is quite pertinent. if you find use for it under any form, I would be honored if you make it part of your essay. Here it is (clearing throat): "It would seem that many editors tend to imagine that the goal of wikipedia is reached when one user who types two, three or even four random words into wikipedia's search function, gets them to one existing article with each single try."
I think that the "big" articles you cite are an accurate barometer. Ideally, once you add references to an article and/orwrite the whole of it in a readable form (usually "and" rather than "or"), activity around it comes to a standstill. The only people who jump over that perimeter fence are either erudite or demented - the former is Boganda's case, the latter happened recently with Codreanu. Remember how noisy it was around here back in the Bonaparte days, when the whole Illyria group was only using wiki to flame war and add pictures from children's books to articles on battles? Well, how much of that coming to an end is not in fact attributable to good old massive editing from good sources? Not that one needs to do it because of that, but once you did it, the Bonnies and the Dacodavas can only take their show on the road. And, inshallah, it seems that this is finally happening on rowiki.
Trust me, I'll deal with that little detail in the Sadoveanu article while I'm editing. You know, the Appleby way ;). And thank you for the link, even though it's already giving me an ulcer. What has that man got - a g*amn' river bot?!
Well, at least "History of the Jews in the Vatican" points to the "Italy" article, though I think there are some users willing to change that :D. But yes, you're obviously right, and this is covered by my "random words" comment above. That Nauru thing is lovely - one more reasons for countries all over the world not to allow America to create embassies on their soil. Or is it that having embassies is usually a sign that relations have become non-cordial?
Don't let them mess up this project while I'm gone ;), and thank you for the kind wishes. Dahn (talk) 05:38, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
We've got...
an FA! Excellent work! Nishkid64 (Make articles, not love) 00:59, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Your RfA
I'm genuinely sorry to oppose, but you'll get there next time, if not this. I gave my !vote an enormous amount of thought. I think you've been unfortunate; under other circumstances you'd have succeeded with ease with my oppose one of a tiny minority. --Dweller (talk) 18:29, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Your RfA was unsuccessful
I am sorry to inform you that I have closed your RfA as not demonstrating a consensus that you should become an administrator at this time. Should you still be interested in becoming an administrator in the future, I recommend that you attempt to address the concerns raised by those opposing before running again. Best wishes, WjBscribe 22:59, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- Mmmrgmn mmmnm khmnmnmmmndfnmmmmmmn... #!₮¿nrgnmf! Dahn (talk) 23:28, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
I personally am disgusted by the people who voted there. A good part of them totally ignored WP:AGF and nobody brought any evidence of you pushing your POV in any article. Heck, beside being Romanian (and hypothetically sharing the same POV as you) I don't agree with 3/4 of the things you have in your user boxes and I still considered that you can act in a unbiased manner. Not to mention the ridiculousness of the 3 AM question or the troll (sorry, good faith editor) who tried to push his edits in an RfA... -- AdrianTM (talk) 01:16, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
- Be assured, that RfA revealed Wiki's problems much more than your own: 1) Uninformed RfA Mandarins too lazy to dig below superficial buzzword invective ("nationalist"? what is "nationalist" really in this case?), 2) Central Europe is a tough Barrio - Look at NCurse and Bogdan, these two admins spend their time mostly elsewhere (which is of course right and proper; the point being that they avoid the propeller scars that the rest of us Manatees bear on our backs) 3) bad outcomes push talent away (as with any company).
- The one thing that galls me most (or is at least in the top drawer) is to see lower-competence pass judgment on higher-competence. (as is known to anyone ever involved in any military anywhere in the world). Take a break, come back, stick around. István (talk) 14:14, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
I know it can be harsh, but remember you almost made it. I agree with Istvan above and others; it is a safe bet I (and many, many other old admins) would not pass today's RfA. Simply being controversial is deadly, and being active - and stepping on too many toes - doubly so. The only thing I can say is - good luck in the future. Do let me know when you try again! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 03:07, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
- Good luck with another attempt, it there will be one. All the best Tymek (talk) 01:24, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
I agree with Piotrus. When I was put up for admin, there were no dissenting votes. I wonder if I'd even garner a majority these days. - Jmabel | Talk 23:18, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Orthodox categories
I agree it seems silly at the detail level, but it's the logical conclusion of having Category:Eastern Orthodox Christians by nationality and Category:Eastern Orthodox Christians by jurisdiction, both of which seem valid trees, or branches of much bigger trees. The second is certainly needed for clergy. I'm not sure what I would say at CfD; perhaps keep. Sorry about your RfA - I've not been seeing those lately. Johnbod (talk) 23:18, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yes - It makes more sense for America, Ukraine & some other places; Greece, Romania etc I'm not so sure. Johnbod (talk) 23:52, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Collaboration
I've been researching into some African political leaders, and I wanted which individuals you are interested in writing about.
- Patrice Lumumba – Anti-colonial leader like Boganda; helped lead DRC to independence (served as first PM) before being assassinated under mysterious circumstances at age 35.
- Idi Amin Dada – cannibal, ruthless dictator of Uganda, numerous human rights violations, currently a GA. Bringing this to FA wouldn't require much, IMO
- Milton Obote – The Ugandan president who was deposed by Dada; some biographies (limited preview) available on Google Books
- Fulbert Youlou – Boganda-like figure, no biography on subject, so writing might be more difficult
- Jean-Bedel Bokassa – I'm currently working on Bokassa, taking most of my info from Titley's book and obituaries
- Abel Goumba – Interesting figure in CAR political history; true successor to Boganda, but was replaced by French-backed Dacko
- David Dacko – Replaced Goumba, was overthrown by Bokassa. Later put back into power after Operation Barracuda
What say you, Mr. Biruitorul? If you've got any other suggestions, let me know. Regards, Nishkid64 (Make articles, not love) 02:45, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
- Alright, good luck with Houphouët-Boigny and M'ba. The author of both articles on fr.wiki also wrote Boris III de Bulgarie. Surprisingly, his articles are very well-referenced (which I usually don't see on fr.wiki) and quite lengthy. Anyway, I'm getting underway with Bokassa right now. I'll give you an update on my progress in a few weeks or so. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not love) 23:46, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
It's a consolation to see I'm not the only one with an interest in Francophone Africa ;-) A really great work on Boganda, and I'm happy to see you project others. Oh, if you pass in Chad, make a call: I would really love to collaborate trying a FA on François Tombalbaye or Hissène Habré. Ciao, and good work!--Aldux (talk) 01:12, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Nicholas Medforth-Mills
Hi Biruitorul :) I was referred to you by User:Lil' mouse 3. I'm interested in perhaps obtaining a translation of the two articles from Cotidianul on Nicholas Medforth-Mills' page, Prince Nicholas: “I am ready to be the King of Romania and Prince Nicholas, a dream of romanticism among the Romanian youth. I was hoping you could help in translating them for me, or else point me to where I could obtain a decent translation. Thanks in advance! Morhange (talk) 07:30, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks very much for the tranlation Morhange (talk) 23:55, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Am ceva mai bun, ce zici, ma ajuti?: Alexandru Baltagă si Artemie Munteanu. Dc76\ 17:43, 15 March 2008 (UTC) Also, this: Bessarabian and Bukovinian martyrs of the faith from Communist persecution, which is only the start. Dc76\ 19:58, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Banishment in the Bible
First let me say, Hello Biruitorul, and yes I do welcome your opinion. Regarding the article, that we are currently debating whether to Keep' or Delete , Banishment in the Bible, I figured it would be better to respond here than on the Afd page, as too many comments have a tendency to distract from the main article itself, and the reason for the Afd discussion. In addition, to be truthful, I believe I stretched the patience of the discussion past the point of ordinary participation :-). The main reason I spent the time in trying to improve the article, was that the piece caught my interest! Moreover, to be honest, I always felt, that if I found the subject intriguing , other individuals will found the subject matter interesting. Many times, I have done a search on Google and even here at Misplaced Pages and found the subject matter I was looking for either not available or I had to search through 10,000 hits. With this particular subject, I went Hey, I could see other individuals looking for the same thing. With that in mind, I voted for Keep. In the same sense, if someone was looking for this subject matter, why not have it all in one place. Hence my overly zealous Keep stance. I hope that I provided a little insight to my opinions, and either way it turns out, thanks for your participation. Shoessss | Chat 22:11, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Removed prod from Unreal Tournament 3 Tweaker, now at AfD
I have removed the {{prod}} tag from Unreal Tournament 3 Tweaker, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. I have nominated the article for deletion instead; the debate may be found at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Unreal Tournament 3 Tweaker, which overrides the need for a {{prod}} tag. I have explained my reasons for doing this in my nomination. Thanks! -- Atama 15:30, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
New policy proposal that may be of interest
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WW1 Prisoners of war in Germany
Bunã ziua Biruitorul. I'm Tinodela from the Misplaced Pages-fr. I write you in order to congratulate to have translated my article about the WW1 prisoners of war in Germany. I'm happy that this theme will be better known. This aspect of the WW1 is very interesting. (I'm sorry but my english is not very good). Rămas bun! 81.252.32.3 (talk) 07:47, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- I will try to augment the article, in order to be awarded with the label "article de qualité". Also I say to you "see you soon with the news details in the article". Bye.81.252.32.3 (talk) 16:35, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Eldon Enclosure System
Good morning. This is oanaquijoue from Brasov. Thank you for helping out with the Eldon... page. (I previously wrote the text in Romanian... but noticed that everyone is using the same language to communicate and... maybe someone else could use your advice on this matter as well. I'm going to leave the Ro version as well, hoping it's not a problem.) The matter I could really use your help with is: is there anything I could do to make my page appear on the "Eldon" search - result page, since for the moment it doesn't even appear in "see also". Thank you.
Lucrez de foarte putin timp pe Misplaced Pages (probabil ca era deja evident... :o))si orice ajutor imi e de mare folos. Am mai adaugat cateva informatii pe pagina mentionata, desi mai necesita destula munca. In speranta ca n-o sa va deranjez foarte tare, am o mica nelamurire la care inca nu am reusit sa gasesc raspunsul singura: daca scriu "Eldon" in motorul de cautare apar rezultate in categoriile Places, People, see also. Intrebarea mea este daca trebuie sa fac ceva anume pentru a fi listata si pagina mea ca rezultat la aceasta cautare. Multumesc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oanaquijoue (talk • contribs) 07:43, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Eldon Enclosure System
Multumesc frumos. Ma gandisem si eu la asta insa nu eram sigura ca am voie sa modific pagina (mi-am imaginat ca doar un admin are permisiunea sa modifice pagini de gen). Va multumesc mult inca odata :o) si mult succes in activitati! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oanaquijoue (talk • contribs) 14:46, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
WWI POWs
Thanks for the ISBN. I completely missed your list of refs because you included them in front of the footnotes. By convention, it's done the other way around, so I've refactored the article layout accordingly.
You obviously did a lot of work translating this article, so I was naturally keen to do all I could to ensure it didn't get passed over. Anyhow, rather than reply to your last post, I just promoted it straight to the next update. Regards, Gatoclass (talk) 06:24, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
DYK
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--Wizardman 13:06, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Articles à supprimer à propos de La Réunion
Salut. Pourrais-tu signaler au bon endroit que les articles dans Category:Cities, towns and villages in Réunion devraient presque tous être supprimés ? Je suis né et j'ai vécu vingt ans à La Réunion. Pourtant, je n'ai jamais entendu parler de Maison Leroux ou de Fiague, qui doivent être des patelins minuscules. Seuls Dimitile, Domenjod, Grande Chaloupe, Ligne des Bambous, Manapany, Piton Sainte-Rose, Quartier-Français et Vincendo sont acceptables – à ce sujet, voir Dimitile, Ligne des Bambous et Manapany. Thierry Caro (talk) 13:55, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
- By the way, you might be interested in translating Jacques Delisse and Jean Dugain. Thierry Caro (talk) 13:58, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
- Merci. Je confirme que les chiffres concernant la population sont farfelus, et que beaucoup de lieux cités ne sont absolument pas connus. J'aimerais bien qu'il y ait plein d'articles sur La Réunion ici, mais pas à partir de sujets aussi marginaux que ces petits villages de trois ou quatre maisons inconnus localement. Mieux vaut s'inspirer de ce que nous avons déjà ici. Contacte-moi si c'est nécessaire pour témoigner. Thierry Caro (talk) 15:07, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
April Fool's DYK hook
I have noted some hopefully minor concerns about the "John F. Kennedy" hook at Misplaced Pages:April_Fool's_Main_Page/Did_You_Know#Candidates. Would you please address them? Royalbroil 19:10, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Réunion
I got all of those names from http://www.fallingrain.com/world/RE/ - I've never yet had any trouble with information pulled from that site, so I assumed all was reliable and went accordingly. --User:AlbertHerring 04:52, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
- To take the two points you raised, one after the other:
- a.)I was creating stubs as per established procedure - I've seen plenty of similar stubs created for places around the world that have been allowed to pass muster before. Consequently I didn't think there'd be any problem regarding notability of these places either.
- b.)Actually, most of the Virginia entries I looked at make pretty good sense - I can't give exact numbers, but the figures for the places that I know generally tally with what I'd expect from towns of that size. --User:AlbertHerring 16:57, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
- You are making sense, yes - I hope I am as well. I recognize now that the site has problems; my point is simply that I've seen plenty of articles citing it as the only source, and so consequently assumed that it passed muster. I have also seen a lot of stub articles such as those made to fill out stub categories, and had never yet been called out for doing similar things. In other words, I have never had any indication that what I did with these articles was any sort of a problem. Indeed, every time the issue's come up with someone else, I've seen such things emphatically defended on the premise that geographical localities of any sort do pass muster.
- Please understand that I really don't care what happens with these articles, to be honest, as long as it's in the encyclopedia's best interest; my only interest was in filling out a stub category, which I did, without complaint. I'm just trying to emphasize the point that everything I did was in good faith and based on solid precedent.
- And I apologize if this seems at all testy, but it's late, I'm exhausted, and I think I'm starting to see the screen cross-eyed, so I'm not exactly in tiptop shape for writing much of anything right now... --User:AlbertHerring 04:54, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
- Pleasepleaseplease don't think for a moment that I've found anything untoward in your tone - I haven't in the least. It's just that I was afraid that my comments were coming across as a bit snarky and a bit whiny, and I wanted to try and emphasize that such tone was not my intent. (I'm afraid I sometimes end up being too self-conscious in online discussion, which failing I'm working hard to improve.) --User:AlbertHerring 04:59, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Martijn Hoekstra, Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Biruitorul 2 etc.
I hope that you do not consider that I "ganged up on , started proposing drastic solutions, dragged name through the mud and implicitly threatened ", at Martijn Hoekstra's RfA as I do not believe I did either of those things. There may be editors who do not, but I do intend to support your next RfA in the summer/autumn if your AfD work is good, and I'm sure it will be. Your RfA not succeeding and the discussion at the Martijn Hoekstra RfA was somewhat regrettable; although I hope that it will not impede your future request for adminship. On another note, to make this clear, my oppose at your RfA was nothing to do with your political beliefs; in fact some of your positions with regards to the British Isles would be similar to my own ;-) Anyway, keep up the editing and I look forward to this. Regards, EJF (talk) 16:23, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Jack Kennedy (criminal)
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--howcheng {chat} 04:02, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
- HAHAHAHHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! Lovely! Dahn (talk) 08:06, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Congressional Scorecards
I first saw a Congressional Scorecard on Pete Stark's bio, which somebody else put there, and decided to add scorecards following the format on Stark's page to the other California representatives because I thought they would be more complete. Socal gal at heart (talk) 04:58, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Oops
Re Talk:Cluj-Napoca#"Piarists"? Perhaps Pietists?, there's an old S. J. Perelman joke: "Budapest? You must mean Bucharest. There's no such place as Budapest. Of course, there's no such place as Bucharest, either." - Jmabel | Talk 16:24, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Major removal of text from Transylvania as vandalism
I understand the material you removed with this edit may have been controversial, poorly sourced, WP:OR, etc. but I have trouble with such a large block being removed with an edit summary of removing some vandalism or words to that effect. Would you mind placing a more detailed explanation of the material you removed and why at Talk:Transylvania. Thanks.--Doug. 23:03, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Prague Spring
Replied on FAC page. The Dominator (talk) 19:18, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
2008 Farnborough plane crash
It looks like consensus has been reached on the article being notable enough to include on Misplaced Pages. Are you willing to close the discussion? Mjroots (talk) 16:05, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
- I've no problem with the actual nomination for deletion. I did check before I created the article whether or not it met notability guidelines, and having satisfied myself that it did, created the article. A few of the arguments for keeping were very weak IMHO, but the article does meet the notability criteria. Agreed, had they been three non-notable people, the article wouldn't be notable in itself, although the details would have been for Farnborough and Biggin Hill. All the best, Mjroots (talk) 18:42, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Grr!
Argh, you evil imperialist bastard, you knew from the start that the article needs only some minor style and structure edits, NPOV-wise! How am I supposed to push my hardcore Stalinist POV into it now? Grawr! A fine demonstration of the lack of substance in certain recently raised concerns over POV-pushing of a certain editor... Some pics and online refs would be nice, though. --Illythr (talk) 17:01, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Take Ionescu
Hello. Thanks for adding Take Ionescu to List of atheists. I take it you know Romanian. Would you be able to include a translation of a substantiating quote from that article, much like the other quotes in the references section? Thanks. Nick Graves (talk) 23:04, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the translation. The article says "he was accused of being an atheist." Plenty of people who are accused of being atheists are not. Take did not confirm these accusations in his response, but basically said "my beliefs are none of your business." Is there another source where Take directly says he's an atheist? I'll look too, though I will be limited to English sources. Thank you. Nick Graves (talk) 00:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Popular fronts
Definitely a worthy exercise. Do you have King's "The Moldovans"? It's really quite well sourced on who all the activists were (it even has the positive Latvian-Moldovan connection during those heady days), the OMON and Transnistria came later. —PētersV (talk) 01:27, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Right back at you
Thank you, Biru, and great to be back. Unfortunately, I had stopped stalking you these past days, but, like the mighty beasts we're so often shown on the silver screen, I could sense that something was upsetting you and thought I'd check out that "contributions" link. Sorry for not being around when it came to the other ones.
I reread the Ionescu source twice, and it is just now I realize it could be read two different ways. I had read it as "accused that, being an atheist, he was giving laws to the church", and I'm not so sure I was right. I'll keep looking around but perhaps the best thing for now is to rephrase and drop from the cat, list etc. Eh...
Glad you like Sadoveanu. I do recall seeing a minor dispute erupting there between Turgidson and some IP about whether he was a communist or not. When it comes to Sadoveanu, I have to say I do not agree nor disagree with Turgidson's point, but it would seem the sources do endorse the notion that Sadoveanu was never and was never seen as a communist. I wasn't sure where you stood on this issue, but I'm writing this to explain why I did not put the category back in (at least, for now). And I still have hope that Turgidson will return some day! Dahn (talk) 03:17, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
- And while I'm at it. This is by no means a big deal, but it struck me as odd that your DYK hook should use the word "support" twice. I may be nitpicking, but wouldn't it read better if you were to alternate it with "backing" or something? Dahn (talk) 04:55, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
History of the Jews in Poland
This name was discussed and rejected long time ago, but I don't hold a strong opinion one way or another. You may want to post rationale on the talk page; also, please fix broken template links to FAC/R and such on the talk page.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 21:41, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Baneasa
Regarding this, I couldn't find much anything more on the zoo online. Is there a book on it? Salut, Basketball110 pick away... 23:24, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
- Well I can some Romanian. I'll do the best I can. Thanks! Basketball110 pick away... 00:03, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Senecio vernalis
Thanks for the Romanian common name for the article. I started to list the common names long before I read where the wikiplant project endorses mentioning all of the common names. While studying this species (a more interesting study than I thought it would be, btw) I read where at the turn of the last century, it was some of the common names that helped to identify some of the species as a problem for cattle -- as it is sometimes the only plant that grows (either in drought or flood, depending on the circumstance and the species) in some years of extremes. The common name clearly said this with one or two words where the latin word said only where it likes to grow and who its family/genus is. When I was using books and pamphlets for my own purposes, it was interesting to see how the scientific names did little to help me to find what I was looking for and the common names just said it simply. One group is apparently funding a lifestyle while the other group might have been trying to stay alive in spite of the life style choices of the other group -- all conjecture on my part though; that.
I am curious what the translation of the newly added Romanian common name would be in English; is it translatable? I watched a re-enactment recently of the first attempt to translate the word 'azimuth' from Arabic to Latin. In Latin, the concept did not exist that there was a highest point in the sky and therefore, no word to describe it; the re-enactment was kind of funny and then at the same time, a total tragedy which made me wonder the reason they still used latin for so many hundreds of years after that. -- carol (talk) 02:44, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
About the photo on the Edwin Booth page
I could be wrong, and you may be right, about the Booth photo. But I do believe this to be Edwin's older brother, based on my research. Interesting, it is, if you look at the Library of Congress documentation of this - and an adjacent photo that is unquestionably Edwin - which says "Booth?" (Question mark theirs), suggesting they saw the dissimilarility of this photo and an adjacent one. Anyway, I've written the LC, and also referred this to several colleagues who've written and published, as I have, about the Booth clan. We'll see. All the best--- Weimar03 (talk) 03:11, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Meanwhile, take a look and compare these two photos at the LC: TITLE: Edwin Booth CALL NUMBER: LC-BH82- 93 <P&P> and TITLE: Edwin Booth CALL NUMBER: LC-BH82- 93 A <P&P> --------- Very similar indeed. At the time of the photos, Edwin and Junius Jr. were often performing and/or producing plays together. I suspect they were both photographed by Brady or one of his team in the same session. They're related, but not the same person. And look again, at that question mark (on the photo, moreover, that's unquestionably Edwin). Anyway, hopefully the LC will get back to me in a reasonable time. Meanwhile, here's wishing you all the best. Weimar03 (talk) 03:32, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Template:Infobox Romanian Historical Political Party
I totally agree!
But I taught at this template as a universal one, for modern times former parties (Like PLD - merged into PD-L , AP - will merge into PNL... and others). I think we both know that in Romania we hat countless parties!
ES Vic (talk) 19:22, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
TfD nomination of Template:USArmySecs
Template:USArmySecs has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — bahamut0013♠♣ 22:53, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
DYK
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And then will there be one on the Moldovan Popular Front (Just kidding?--Daniel Case (talk) 08:31, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
RFA Thanks
Thank you for your comments on my RFA. Even though it failed with 28 supports, 42 opposes, and 15 neutrals, I am grateful for the suggestions and advice I have received and I do hope to improve as a Wikipedian. If you ever need my help in any endeavor, feel free to drop me a line. --Sharkface217 19:52, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
DYK
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--Bookworm857158367 (talk) 04:35, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
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Re on villages
Hi! I took a quick look, and, while I'm with you 100% on the "dubious source" issue, it seems that the articles created are for communes, not villages, which means that they were bound to be created at some point (therefore, the issues of notability don't seem to apply). I'm not sure what to do about it next: the articles are at times hilarious (see them proclaiming the existence of a Transylvanian Saxon language), and, indeed, the source should not be taken for granted (meaning that the editors should certainly not assume notability for other items that may be listed there, and that notability here may have been sheer fluke). Correcting such articles and finding other sources would probably be the best solution for now, but the prospect of doing that is well, you know... Dahn (talk) 12:54, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, I see now - I had only looked at the last entries, which were all for communes. Since our one attempt to centralize this issue turned into mush (no fault of ours), I think the only solution is to ask for a resolution on the matter at some higher level (probably as a geographical convention on its own). That would give us a reference point and a standard explanation to link to for users who will not abide by the Schmidt Convention. If you think this is worth pursuing, I think it would be more efficient than pointing out the same evident issues each time a user embarks on an experiment. Dahn (talk) 18:24, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, my first instinct is to start a discussion on the talk page for WP:MOS, or rekindle the flame on the notice board, or bring this to the attention of Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Geography. I'm not sure which one is better, though. For my encore, I'm going to stub those disgusting articles you showed me. Dahn (talk) 12:00, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
- Btw, one thing really annoys me now: the templates are created in such a fashion that they automatically include their articles in the county category. This means that subcategorizing them by level (commune, town etc) will not take them out of the parent, Anyway we can fix that? And, btw, why do those templates have to be so big? Dahn (talk) 12:32, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Attempts to censor your Sandy Berger edits
A couple of users are trying to remove Sandy Berger from the American criminals category. Could you go to the RFC at http://en.wikipedia.org/Category_talk:American_criminals#What_should_be_the_threshold_for_inclusion_of_this_category.3 and indicate if you believe corrupt politicians should be placed in this category? John celona (talk) 18:31, 20 April 2008 (UTC)