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You have violated the three-revert rule on User talk:Future Perfect at Sunrise. Any administrator may now choose to block your account. In the future, please make an effort to discuss your changes further, instead of edit warring. Fut.Perf. ☼ 16:51, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Huh? ktr (talk) 16:54, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

I could use some help

Anybody reading this knows how can I post a request to the Arbitration Committee (I've been indefinitely blocked by User:Moreschi (upon request of User:Future_Perfect_at Sunrise), reason was: Adieu; not very enlightening). ktr (talk) 18:42, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Unblock

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Request reason:

I have no idea why I was (indefinitely) blocked (block reason given by User:Moreschi was Adieu... that's cryptic and I'm afraid I don't have the powers of a clairvoyant); I was merely trying to get User:Future Perfect at Sunrise to elaborate on his accusation of me being a sockpuppet. I had no other way but keep my replies (which he kept deleting) on his talkpage in hopes that some uninvolved admin would take notice and investigate

Decline reason:

Wait for feedback from blocking admin. See below. — Bovlb (talk) 07:12, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

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I have to agree that one word is a little terse explanation-wise for an indefinite block, and I have asked the blocking admin to provide clarification. In the meantime, I'll point out that users are, in general, perfectly entitled to remove comments from their own talk page, and apart from common politeness, there is there is no rule to say they must respond to every comment. While we're waiting, I have a few questions for you.

• Do you now understand why edit-warring in general, and violating the three revert rule in particular, are bad for Misplaced Pages?
• Do you undertake not to do them again in future?
• Do you control any other accounts on this Misplaced Pages?
• What motivates you to contribute to WIkipedia?
• What contributions do you anticipate making?

I have removed your unblock request for now. Feel free to request again if you don't hear anything in a few hours. I recommend that you answer the questions above before doing so. Cheers, Bovlb (talk) 07:12, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and you asked how to contact the arbitration committee. Your first step is what you're doing now, after that you can appeal to the unblock mailing list (see Misplaced Pages:Mailing lists) and then the Arbitration committee. Bovlb (talk) 07:16, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

I've appealed to the 'unblock mailing list' 2 days ago (didn't know I could use the 'userpage unblock' method then) and didn't get any feedback. Anyhow, here are the answers to your questions:

• Yes I do. Yet, 3 days ago I thought that doing so in an admin's talkpage, who showed such an egregious disregard and scorn towards a new user (me), wouldn't constitude edit war; I just hoped to get the attention and the intervention of another admin.
• Yes.
• No.
• My passion for truth and my genuine interest in a project such as this 💕.
• I hope I could help better articles on surgery/medicine, literature and articles on the history/culture of the Mediterranean/Middle Eastern world.

Regards, ktr (talk) 07:47, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

No, no, no. Do not unblock this user. He's quite obviously a sockpuppet (of whom I don't know) purely out to troll and harass Future Perfect. Bad-hand reincarnations do not get to edit. Moreschi (talk) (debate) 08:33, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

If you don't know whose sockpuppet I am then how can I be accused as a sockpuppet (first by User:Future Perfect at Sunrise and now by you)? That's truly Orwellian. ktr (talk) 08:35, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah yes. I see your mail from Sunday night, and the lack of response.

I have reviewed your edits and those of 85.75.93.132 (that's you, right?). I find a couple of requests for and removal of references on Ancient Macedonian language that were reverted with a "sock" accusation, and talk page discussion relating to both the references and the accusation. You have certainly been leaping straight into some rather heated waters.

Moreschi: I feel like I'm missing some back-story here. Is there an entry at Misplaced Pages:Suspected sock puppets or Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser that I should look at? Bovlb (talk) 09:26, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes 85.75.93.132 is me. ktr (talk) 09:38, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Bovlb: Yes, there is some backstory. First sign of it was, the anon's second edit was quoting an edit summary back at me which I had used days earlier in an issue with another anon IP . That anon IP 66.96.249.229, revert-warring in similar style as this one, is curiously today being used by a vandal and may be an open proxy. The behavior of both IPs shows clearly that they are experienced users who know the wiki and the contributors in this field quite well. The very least I'd expect in this situation would be for this user to make a plausible disclosure what and under what names/IPs he has edited previously. (There can be no problem about privacy, since we know his IP range already anyway.) Misplaced Pages:Suspected sock puppets/LittleTinMan might be relevant; the IP ranges involved overlap too. Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:46, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

My ISP (otenet.gr) assigns my connection a dynamic IP starting with (I believe so; I don't keep a log of the IPs my ISP assigns to my connection, and I believe neither User:Future Perfect at Sunrise does) either 85.* or 79.*. This account (User:כתר) is the only account I ever had here. ktr (talk) 10:06, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Can you list a few characteristic anon edits from those ranges that were you? Have you ever been involved in edit-wars or other conflicts through those IPs? Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:14, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

I've never been involved in any edit-wars until 20-4-08. I used to just browse through WP articles (that's how I came to notice your action in certain Macedonia related articles), until the "get out of the shanty, you sock" incident. ktr (talk) 10:25, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

User:LittleTinMan

Bovlb, if you're reading this I would like to ask you a favor: could you find out if User:LittleTinMan is banned? And something else: is it possible to find out the IP addresses this user used? Thanks in advance. ktr (talk) 12:03, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

User:LittleTinMan is not currently blocked. Misplaced Pages:Suspected sock puppets/LittleTinMan lists some IP addresses. Bovlb (talk) 15:49, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

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