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::: Thanks, everyone. I'm ok, and I'm sorry I'm leaving, but I've been really distracted lately, and I've just cut out wikipedia temporarily. Just some extra stress. I might come back in the summer, or sometime soon when I have less on my mind. Thanks again. ]<sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub> 14:25, 29 April 2008 (UTC) ::: Thanks, everyone. I'm ok, and I'm sorry I'm leaving, but I've been really distracted lately, and I've just cut out wikipedia temporarily. Just some extra stress. I might come back in the summer, or sometime soon when I have less on my mind. Thanks again. ]<sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub> 14:25, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
::::We await your return; good luck in the meantime. · ] <sup>]</sup> 14:48, 29 April 2008 (UTC) ::::We await your return; good luck in the meantime. · ] <sup>]</sup> 14:48, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::Echoing AO here. Good luck past nominee :) ] <small>(]?)</small> 15:15, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

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Dearest J-stan,
Thank you for your participation in my RFA, which closed successfully with 96 supports, 1 oppose, and 3 neutrals. No matter if you !voted support, oppose, neutral, I thank you for taking the time to drop by. I'm a new admin remember, so if you have any suggestions feel free to inform me of them. I would like to give a special shout out to Hirohisat, Wizardman, and Husond, for there original co-nominations. Thank you once again and good day.

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UTC clock

Stumbled over Wikipedia_talk:Editor_assistance/Requests#UTC_clock and installed the script right away. I posted two related questions to Arichnad's talk. One is about the script itself (it displays as "3 00:24" right now, with 3 for December 3, and I wanted to know if that could be changed to 12-03). The other is one you can probably answer better: I don't quite understand what the thread was about... Where does one need a UTC clock (aside from the fact that it's cool) for archiving? I dorftrotteltalk I 00:26, December 3, 2007

"I guess if you are unaware of the new month, a UTC script isn't your biggest issue" :D Um, OTOH... doesn't the second part of your reply relate to that? I mean, I wouldn't look up the exact time to determine whether a thread can be archived. I dorftrotteltalk I 01:02, December 3, 2007
I meant knowing the date is easy because it's in my Windows task bar, so I wouldn't really need it in the userlinks. Btw: Just found this. With seconds! And the year! I dorftrotteltalk I 01:09, December 3, 2007
Yes, it's UTC. I've just copied it to User:Dorftrottel/time.js. Going to fiddle around a bit, until I get rid of the year and the (UTC) tag, since I am using the floating quickbar extension which also moves the userlinks to the left into the quickbar, and the full timestamp with year etc. doesn't fit into the width of the quickbar. I dorftrotteltalk I 01:17, December 3, 2007

Ok, I got it. You can try it by adding importScript('User:Dorftrottel/time.js'); to your monobook.js. I dorftrotteltalk I 01:36, December 3, 2007

I implemented the changes you tried to apply. The seconds should be gone now, I removed them from my time.js. I also changed the format "day month" to "month day" (i.e. as of right now it reads "17:25, Dec 3"). I dorftrotteltalk I 17:26, December 3, 2007
You're welcome. I really just tried to format your preferred settings and then decided I liked them better. If I change my mind about it, there now is a working version which you could always copy from the history of my time.js into you own time.js. Best regards, I dorftrotteltalk I 17:47, December 3, 2007

User:J-stan/Gmail group

I'm available via Skype. Do I have to install Google talk to include myself on the page (I could do so, just asking to make sure). I think it's a great idea btw and have been pondering the creation of a VoIP collaboration project or some such (e.g. WP:VOIP). User:Dorftroffel 22:29, February 23, 2008

I'm guessing Google talk is easier because the contact is the same as the email address, right? Anyway, I just installed Google talk. User:Dorftroffel 22:34, February 23, 2008
But is that contact list meant for non-wiki-related contact? My idea was to instrumentalise VoIP for collaborative purposes, e.g. mediation etcpp. I believe many situations that take days to weeks (to months to years) to be half-way resolved on-wiki could be sorted out far more quickly (or it could be given a shot anyway). User:Dorftroffel 23:29, February 23, 2008 (btw, I for one am not so much concerned about running into crazy persons, as I'm usually the most crazy person around. but the annoyance factor may be fairly high nevertheless.)
Sent. User:Dorftroffel 00:03, February 24, 2008

History of timekeeping devices.

I'll take a look at the GAC for you tomorrow morning. · AndonicO 23:18, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Ah, never mind... someone got to it already. · AndonicO 08:45, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
LOL weird, we both put up our articles for GA at the same time! Except mine hasn't been reviewed yet :( Is this the first time you've put an article up for GA??? Ryan4314 (talk) 11:51, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Yea my first too. Ryan4314 (talk) 17:54, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

"Early church records indicate uses of water clocks, however, around the turn of the 14th century, there was increased mention of "horologes," as they were called. Water clocks were being adapted to use escapement methods, rather than water." This part, from the lead, is unclear (I can't understand it, at least...); mind re-writing it? Also, I'm pretty sure I read (or saw on the History Channel) something about Greek water clocks (Alexandria, so modern Egypt); I'll try to find it. · AndonicO 21:10, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, the mention of horologes and the second sentence makes it confusing. I don't have time to elaborate, just thought I'd explain at least a little... · AndonicO 22:05, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Ah, I see. I've copyedited your changes, maybe go over them to make sure I didn't screw anything up. · AndonicO 23:09, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

My article just went GA! Hang in there pal, I'm sure your one will get there soon :) Ryan4314 (talk) 16:14, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

YAY my first barnstar! Ryan4314 (talk) 18:06, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Good going on the GA pal, knew you could do it. Never knew about "Cannon" though, was that just you or did others help? Ryan4314 (talk) 22:20, 7 April 2008
That's a good idea. Ryan4314 (talk) 08:52, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Cabal debate opinion

You know you're actually supposed to endorse your own summary, right? - DiligentTerrier (and friends) 22:23, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

April GA Newsletter

The April issue of the WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter is now available. Dr. Cash (talk) 03:53, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

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The WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter
Volume I, No. 6 - April 2008

March issue | May issue

Project News
  • There are currently 3,868 Good Articles listed at WP:GA.
  • The backlog at Good Article Nominations is 195 unreviewed articles. Out of 267 total nominations, 57 are on hold, 13 are under review, and 2 are seeking a second opinion. Please go to WP:GAN and review an article or three as soon as you have a chance!
The oldest unreviewed articles are: A4232 road, New York State Route 63, Great American Boycott, First Great Western, Duck Soup, Sanja Matsuri, Code of Conduct (affiliate marketing), Prospect Mountain Veterans Memorial Highway, Aliens (film), and Roanoke Regional Airport.
The categories with the largest backlogs are: Theatre, film and drama (27 articles), Sports and recreation (25 articles), Transport (24 articles), Music (19 articles), War and military (19 articles), Politics and government (18 articles), Religion, mysticism and mythology (16 articles), Literature (14 articles), World history (14 articles), and Video and computer games (14 articles).
The backlog at Good Article Reassessment currently stands at 12 articles up for re-review.
GA Sweeps Update

The GA Sweeps process is progressing nicely! During the month of March, a total of 92 articles were reviewed. Of that total, 74 were found to continue to meet the GA criteria, and 18 were delisted. There are currently 14 articles that are still on hold in this process, awaiting revisions. Congratulations to Nehrams2020 (talk · contribs), who sweeped a whopping 51 articles during the month! Jackyd101 (talk · contribs) also deserves congrats for sweeping a total of 26 articles!

Reviewer of the Month

Dihydrogen monoxide is the GAN Reviewer of the Month for March, based on the assessments made by Dr. Cash on the number and thoroughness of the reviews made by individual reviewers each week. Dihydrogen monoxide hails from Brisbane in Queensland, Australia, and has been editing Misplaced Pages since April 6, 2007. He has contributed to 8 Featured articles and is an avid reviewer and contributor to the Good articles program. Other reviewers should check out his Noob's Guide to GA Reviewing. Congratulations to Dihydrogen monoxide!

Other outstanding reviewers during the month of March include:

Member News

There are now 195 members of WikiProject Good Articles! Welcome to the 13 new members that joined during the month of March:

This WikiProject, and the Good Article program as a whole, would not be where it is today without each and every one of its members! Thank you to all!

To delist or not to delist, that is the question

So you’ve found an article that, on the face of it, does not merit its good article status. What next? Especially where there are many glaring issues that need addressing, it’s tempting to just revoke its GA status and remove it from the list, but although we are encouraged as editors to be bold, this approach (known to some as "bold delisting") is not recommended good practice. There are many reasons why a listed article might not meet the assessment criteria—it’s always possible that it never did, and was passed in error, but more likely the criteria have changed or the article quality has degraded since its original assessment. Either way, we should treat its reassessment with no less tact and patience than we would a fresh nomination.

This, in fact, provides a good starting point for the delisting process. Approach the article as though it has been nominated for GA review. Read it and the GA criteria carefully, and provide a full reassessment on the article talk page. Explain where and why the article no longer meets the criteria, and suggest remedies.

Having explained why the article no longer meets current GA criteria, allow its editors time to fix it! In keeping with the above approach, it may help to treat the article as on hold. There is no need to tag it as such, but give editors a reasonable deadline, and consider helping out with the repair work. Bear in mind that more flexibility may be required than for a normal hold—the editors did not request or expect your reassessment and will probably have other projects taking up their time. They may not have worked on the article for months or even years, and at worst the article may have been abandoned and its authors no longer active. As always, communication is the key. It sometimes helps to post messages to relevant WikiProjects (found at the top of the article talk page), or to contact editors directly (this tool is useful for identifying active editors for any given article).

Only once the above process has run its course, and sufficient improvement has not been forthcoming, is it time to think about delisting the article. Communicate your final decision on the article talk page, even if there was no response to your reassessment and hold, and take the time to fill in the various edit summaries on the article talk and GA list pages to ensure the delisting is transparent and trackable. If you have any doubts about your final decision, you can list the article at Good article reassessment or contact one of the GA mentors, who will be happy to advise.

Article reassessment is perhaps the single most controversial function of our WikiProject, and the one with the most potential to upset and alienate editors. Yet it is one of the most necessary too, since without the ability to revoke an article’s status we would be unable to maintain quality within the project. However, if we approach reassessment sensitively and with the goal of improving articles to the point where sanctions are unnecessary, we will ensure that delisting is the last resort, not the first.

From the Editors

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:O You should review more! We need quality reviewers, or, barring that, anyone who's a project member ;) Cheers, dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 10:07, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
FYI; replied on my talk. dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 07:45, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

WP:CP vs. WP:CSD#G12

Hi – while working at CP, I came across Frederick Race Godfrey, which you deleted and restored on March 21 stating that CP hadn't lasted a full week. I deleted it today, and I wanted to let you know that if there are no good/untainted/uninfringing versions in the article's history and there is no assertion of permission, these articles can be speedied under G12. The instructions to admins are contradictory and haven't been updated since May 2007, but the change was made by Jimbo sometime after that. After I get that backlog cut down to size, those instructions are next.

It's the assertion of permission that gives them the seven days, so they have time to go to OTRS. If there's no claim of permission somewhere in an edit summary or a user talk page or the article talk page, go ahead and hit the delete button guilt-free. :-) Thanks for helping out! - KrakatoaKatie 20:17, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

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Woah J-stan - what happened man? You're a great admin - I'm so proud to have coached you. I really hope you reconsider, but if not, best of luck in the future - you're a good guy. Ryan Postlethwaite 01:48, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

I must agree with Ryan. I hope that everything is okay, and I would love to see you back someday. Best wishes, hmwithτ 02:14, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Aww, gone so soon. :( Well, I hope you change your mind someday... · AndonicO 02:21, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, everyone. I'm ok, and I'm sorry I'm leaving, but I've been really distracted lately, and I've just cut out wikipedia temporarily. Just some extra stress. I might come back in the summer, or sometime soon when I have less on my mind. Thanks again. Justin(u) 14:25, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
We await your return; good luck in the meantime. · AndonicO 14:48, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Echoing AO here. Good luck past nominee :) Rudget (Help?) 15:15, 29 April 2008 (UTC)