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why do people want to delete pages that have been up for over a year

Hi Todd, Just on regards to the Article Nelson Chan, additional revisions were made to it, but it was just deleted, and asked for consideration of deletion.I'm not pointing any fingures, yet on the other hand, the page has been up since 2007, and things just needed to be updated.

can we just allow the updates to take place?

furthermore, can you help with the pages of Mihcael Kuss, and Chirs Potter, they are both great meteorologist, and well deserve a page on Misplaced Pages.

I'm still pretty new to all of this, and I just read and learned about my own Talk page, so accept my apologies for putting too much info into somethings.

Thanks :)

1. Oingoboing69 :) 17:03 MAY 21 2008

hi Todd, sorry I didn't mean to paste an entire section into your talk page, where as I should have just forwarded

Talk:Nelson Chan

so all the ref. are there to comply against the AfD template, can we reverted to Revision as of 20:24, 21 May 2008, plus the new referance?

Thanks --Oingoboing69 (talk) 19:41, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

P.S. how do I make those Cookie peace offering thingies? Oingoboing69 (talk) 19:41, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Monitoring

I just wanna know if you're monitoring my edits, I don't care if you are or not, I just think I should know. YaBoiKrakerz

John Baselmans

On 20 March i did place the CSD A7 tag on the article John Baselmans because the article did ( and still does) not mention why the suject is notable or important. You did remove the article following the placement of the tag, but i'm wondering why the article the article now seems to be restored without a explanation ? I can guess this message has something to do with it, but that does not explain why my action was reverted. By the way, I would have liked to add this message as User:81.70.9.250 (as which user I did place the tag) but your talk page does not allow anonymous users to place messages? Kind regards, FruitcakeNL (talk) 15:28, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about the semi-protected talk page - rash of vandalism yesterday. It should expire shortly.

Baselman's stamps appear to at least assert notability - which is all you need to do to avoid speedy. My speedy deletion was an error on my part. If you feel he is not notable, please take it to WP:AfD. Best regards. Toddst1 (talk) 15:34, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

But in which way does the article assert notability? It's not really my opinion that mr. Baselmans would be not notable enough, i just can not read anywhere in the article why he would be important or notable enough to be mentioned on Misplaced Pages. Why would the CSD A7 tag be inappropiate in this case? Kind regards, FruitcakeNL (talk) 15:44, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

The article states his work was used on stamps from a sovereign government and lists numerous exhibitions which assert notability; it fails C7. For more info, see Misplaced Pages:CREATIVE. Again, if you feel differently, I strongly encourage you to take it to WP:AfD.Toddst1 (talk) 15:49, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I do feel Misplaced Pages:CREATIVE surely does not apply to mr. Baselmans, and that solely the design (or use of his work in) of stamps is not enough to be mentioned on Misplaced Pages (that would be thousands of more or less impotant illustrators and artists from all over the world, and i'm sure that not any of them is mentioned on Misplaced Pages because of that). In my opinion, it's more what makes him important as a artist what would assert notability, as is mentioned in Misplaced Pages:CREATIVE (wide recognition as a artist, uniqe style, influence, etc.) Sorry for my stubbornness, but i just don't understand why it would be neccesary to start a AfD discussion if C7 could apply to this article (and i don't understand why it does not)? FruitcakeNL (talk) 16:28, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

TruePlanning Software Model

You are more generous than I ... `cause I would have tagged it for an A11 CSD. --Kralizec! (talk) 18:32, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it's pretty squishy. You've convinced me - I sent it to AfD. Thanks for the help. Toddst1 (talk) 19:15, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Re:

So the editor can continue to disrupt British Raj as long as he has support from Admins I guess? Where is the neutrality here? All I am asking is for him to bring up WP:RS? Anyone can continue disruption as long as their viewpoint is implicitly favored by people in wikipedia even though it may not be based on WP:RS? If one is not willing to stick to and enforce WP:RS all we are doing here is reporting bias in wikipedia articles. Desione (talk) 19:48, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Discussion moved to User talk:Desione Toddst1 (talk) 19:52, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Mark Hanau

How do you get keep out of 7 delete suggestions (not votes) and 5 keeps, one of which was the subject and another was a sock of the subject? Toddst1 (talk) 23:12, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I counted 6 and 6 if we discount the possible sockpuppet, 7-6 if we don't. I think the reluctance of other admins to close it speaks to the closeness of the discussion, which should default to keep. Perhaps "no consensus: default to keep" would have been better, but the end effect would have been the same. But don't forget that it is not just the numbers on each side that matter, it's their arguments based on policy. Many !voters of "delete" suggested that the article could be recreated better. If so, then it can just be made better and there is no reason to get rid of the history. --Selket 23:24, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

One Biscayne Plaza page

How does linking to another page that simply attaching the website blatant advertising ON wikipedia? Yes, the page for Terra should be filled out more, but I was starting w/ the link. Is that wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arkitect75 (talk • contribs) 23:30, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

See Misplaced Pages:Spam Toddst1 (talk) 23:37, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

SEER-SEM

I've deprodded SEER-SEM; although it's a rather sorry article, that "widely used within defense, military / aerospace, government" does appear at first glance to check out (a quick google-skim throws up enough respectable names - notably NASA - that it at least warrants an AFD so the specialists can comment on it). — iridescent 23:35, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Cool. Welcome back. Toddst1 (talk) 23:37, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I was just thinking, it's like a return to the old days for me to be posting notices on your talkpage. I feel like Master Po. — iridescent 23:44, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I've learned a lot from you over the past year. I even have a userpage now. 8-) Cheers. Toddst1 (talk) 23:45, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Have you discovered the cunning "policy prevents you permanently protecting your userpage, but doesn't stop you protecting subpages, so make your userpage a one-line transclusion of a subpage" trick? Works a treat at keeping the vandals away. (incidentally, I never entirely went away...) — iridescent 00:23, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I wasn't aware of the policy at all, but I did structure my userpage similarly (out of geekiness) and semi-protected it, which does 90% of the job. Where does it say you can't permanently protect your userpage? Toddst1 (talk) 20:20, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

It's implies at WP:SEMI, in that it only permits userpages to be indefinitely semi protected. I can't imagine anyone challenging you were you to full-protect, though. — iridescent 20:54, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks.  :)

You're right. I just lost my temper when I saw the horrible things that idiot wrote. Thanks for setting me straight and thanks for the compliment. I used to do a lot of NPP as an admin, but it was looney-tunes like that which finally drove me off. Glad to be back as an observer.  :) --PMDrive1061 (talk) 00:09, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Reverting all edits by vandal?

Thank you for blocking User:Tuds75. However, many of his recent vandalisms are still present. On many of the pages, he's made multiple edits, and as I am not an administrator, I can't quickly and easily revert all of his changes. Would it be possible for you to do this, or point me to where I should request his edits be reverted? Also, it appears he (or someone vandalizing in an extremely similar pattern) is doing further vandalism as 71.63.251.34, which should also likely be blocked and reverted. — λ 00:26, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion

Why was the page Jewnikah speedily deleted? I did not mean it as an attack page. How was it one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Comradesandalio (talk • contribs) 04:02, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Help please, Todd. Bloo caught another vandal...

Here is the info and the time. This took place on the CSI: Miami page, David Caruso's name was replaced with an unrelated person. If you are able to send a report to the right place in enough time - I would appreciate it. As I explained last time I tried to help by reporting a vandal, I'm an avid Wiki user and reader, and fix things by the people trying to make this "Wanker-Pedia" quickly....but I do not have enough time to learn the procedures to police the place. So I ask for your kind help. I posted the standard "warning" in the IP users talk page. I personally think everyone should have to register in order to edit anything, but I'm not in charge.

Thanks for your kind help in the past. And if you cannot get to this I understand. Cheers, Bloo. Bloo (talk) 06:58, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Medialink Worldwide

Hi,

I noticed that this page was deleted and feel as if it was done so unfairly. Meant to provide information about the company, the page was speedily deleted because it was marked so by an individual who's account has been flagged for his frequent deletion.

I was currently in the process of adding information about the company of Medialink when I was initially marked for deletion. As I was making changes, and even referred to the webpage for Public Relations Society of America which was similar in language to Medialink page, the Medialink page was still deleted.

The page contained outside references about this company, pointed out elements related to its development and gave examples of what this company does - much like larger companies GM, Fisher-Price, etc. As more information was being added, the page was simply deleted.

I would like to discuss this issue further with you and work to address the removal of this page in a timely manner. Thank you for your time!

Thanks, --Eklein428 (talk) 18:18, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Are you the Online Media Relations Project Manager at Medialink? Toddst1 (talk) 18:20, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for the confusion...Yes....I noticed that Medialink on Misplaced Pages does not represent Medialink Worldwide. I would like advice to make Medialink Worldwide apart of the Misplaced Pages network as part of an Encyclopedia Entry, not a promotional effort. This is being done on my own accord and is not, in any way, meant to promote the company as a whole. How can I achieve such a post.--Eklein428 (talk) 18:31, 22 May 2008 (UTC)--Eklein428 (talk) 18:44, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

You should wait for others to write an article about subjects in which you are personally involved as you did at Medialink Worldwide. This applies to articles about you, your achievements, your band, your business, your publications, your website, your relatives, and any other possible conflict of interest.

Creating an article about yourself is strongly discouraged. If you create such an article, it might be speedily deleted as Medialink Worldwide was or listed on articles for deletion. Deletion is not certain, but many feel strongly that you should not start articles about yourself. This is because independent creation encourages independent validation of both significance and verifiability. All edits to articles must conform to Misplaced Pages:No original research, Misplaced Pages:Neutral point of view, and Misplaced Pages:Verifiability.

If you are not "notable" under Misplaced Pages guidelines, creating an article about yourself may violate the policy that Misplaced Pages is not a personal webspace provider and would thus qualify for speedy deletion. If your achievements, etc., are verifiable and genuinely notable, and thus suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later. (See Misplaced Pages:Wikipedians with articles.) Thank you. Toddst1 (talk) 19:02, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

In effect, there is nothing I can do to add information about the company even though a completely unrelated organization currently has a two sentence wikipedia post? You have been so helpful thus far and I appreciate all your help but anything else you can do to lead me in the right direction in this situation would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you so much for any additional insight.

--Eklein428 (talk) 19:05, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

You are not prohibited from creating such an article, but it is discouraged. WP:Corp, WP:COI and WP:Advert are things you should be familiar with if you proceed. Toddst1 (talk) 19:07, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your help Todd. Sorry for the confusion. I will read through the following and make sure that I adhere by the wiki guidelines. Many thanks again!--Eklein428 (talk) 19:18, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Reasons for deletion?

Hi - I rewrote EasyLearning and Serebra Connect to take into account your comments and you deleted them as "vandalism". I am new to this but this seems excessively heavy-handed. Please explain your thinking as I significantly changed the pages according to your comments.

Also, you have marked EasyLearning for deletion. Would you mind explaining how this program, as a unique and worthwhile one as far as I can tell, is to be deleted when on the E-learning page are listed many commercial companies under "Proprietary"? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.80.158.140 (talk • contribs) 21:05, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Removal of templates without comment is usually viewed as vandalism, especially, speedy deletion templates for articles you created yourself. As far as the AfD nomination, see WP:Corp. I suspect WP:COI applies as well. Toddst1 (talk) 21:11, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Semi protection requested Isis Gee‎

Todd you apparently blocked IP user 79.233.126.164. This user was disrupting the article at Isis Gee‎, where I am trying to doa 3O dispute resolution between two other editors. Can I get the page sei protected for 72 hours or until Tuesday if possible, since I'm travelling over the holiday weekend. I think that we are getting somewhere, but the IP is non cummunicative and blatent. Thanks! --Kevin Murray (talk) 22:08, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Dale Fuller

Hi. I removed two of these tags, as the text I saw was not blatant advertising by any means and contained a significant notability claim (being CEO of a major company) which makes it unsuitable for speedying. You could try AfD, but I suspect that it'll only be binned if it's untrue that he was the CEO. --Dweller (talk) 22:20, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Now I'm puzzled. You're a) clearly very experienced and b) an admin. So I must've got something wrong, somewhere. I'm tired. <scratches head> Off to bed for me. Let me know what I've misunderstood! --Dweller (talk) 22:22, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

That's why I didn't delete it myself. Short-term interim CEO of a public company may be "a person who is part of the enduring historical record". Toddst1 (talk) 22:31, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits.
The next time you delete or blank page content or templates from Misplaced Pages, as you did to Mark Hanau, you will be blocked from editing. Aimulti (talk) 22:42, 22 May 2008 (UTC) (last warning for removing content)