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St Cronan's BNS

Just wondering if you are a past pupil of St Cronan's, since you're giving me a lot of help editing this webpage. --Kobroinstc (talk • contribs) 20:04, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

It's a small world ! So you were one of the guys coming around in balaclavas robbing me for tea money ! He He ! What's your name ? Would love to know who's editing. --Kobroinstc (talk • contribs) 23:36, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Changing the Cronan's page name

I wanted to change the page name to "St. Cronan's Boys National School" so that It might get hits on google when it is searched. at the moment it only shows up in a google search where "Saint Cronan's" is used. please advise if you can, or change the page name so that that this google hit will occur. Thanks for your help —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kobroinstc (talk • contribs) 12:12, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Florence edit

Hi,

I'd like to understand your justification for your recent revert on the Florence page. Your edit comment reads: "here there is a recognisable sub-national flag, it may be used in circumstances where an exact geographical location is needed". This seems to me to be entirely contrary to the relevant guidelines - and also common sense. Why is a slightly more precise geographical location required in this context? For the record, MOS:FLAGS discourages the use of subnational flags where there is no direct relevance, and favours the use of the flags of sovereign states.

If you have any further points on this matter, I'd be interested to hear them. --Breadandcheese (talk) 21:29, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

There is a specific section about it at Misplaced Pages:FLAGS#Use of flags for non-sovereign states and nations. I completely understand where you're coming from, but I think the point of this section is that, particularly in the case of UK sub-national states/countries/nations, it can come down to the personal choice of an editor; in this case, I honestly believe that Edinburgh is almost always known as being in Scotland specifically, which is why I've placed that flag here. I'd like to think that I'm not being biased either way here, I am Irish after all, but if you really wish to rv back to a UK flag then I won't be too perturbed! (What does slightly piss me off is someone like User:Malarious who changes without any explanation.) --Schcambo (talk) 21:41, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Tramway de Nantes

It is up to you whether you want to continue to try to get UK Irish spelling in this article, but I suggest that if you do, you should be consistent about it. The UK Irish spelling of "kilometer" is "kilometre". All, "center" appears under "Line three" and "Ticketing". These would have to be changed to "centre" to be consistent. Regards, Ground Zero | t 11:35, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Will do. Thanks. (Although being Irish, I'd like to call it European spelling, but that might completely confuse the matter). --Schcambo (talk) 15:45, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

This is better, I think. Ground Zero | t 16:07, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah that'll do ;) --Schcambo (talk) 16:10, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

This is an interesting development. I am never happy to see this sort of thing, but I am a bit relieved in this case. Ground Zero | t 16:26, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Have to say, I'm glad to see it. I've mentioned to the guy who did it about the IP addresses he was using, if they're not blocked I can see Firstwind coming back at some stage. Thanks for your help anyways. --Schcambo (talk) 16:34, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi to both of you. After weeks of reverts I brought this up to AIV, thinking no one would care as usual, it seems however that for once someone did. I hope that at some point it will become possible to reason with him/her. Mthibault (talk) 20:49, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

You being Irish has nothing to do with the name of the spelling dialect. It is British English - that's the standard written form of the English language in the British Isles (inclusing Ireland). You're interpretation of your nationality is very much irrelavent. D.de.loinsigh talk 00:06, 19 May 2008

I was joking. But since you're talking this so seriously, there's no set law saying we must use British English spellings; from Hiberno-English: "The standard spelling and grammar of Irish-English are largely the same as common British English." It the goes on to state that: "Due in most part to the influence of the US media abroad, many words and phrases of American English have become interchangeable with their Hiberno-English equivalents, most especially with the youngest generations."

Just because it's largely standard don't mean y'all have to do it the same way, dude? ;) --Schcambo 16:26, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Adminship ?

Hi! After several months working together on articles related to Nantes, I would like to nominate you for adminship based on your contributions, patience and handling of difficult situations. Is this something you would be ok with? Mthibault (talk) 10:42, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

To be honest, I don't think I'd have enough chance of getting it right now; not enough contributions, not enough experience, etc. But maybe in a few months! Merci, de toute façon, et aussi bien fait pour trouver WP:AIV, je l'avais pas vu avant ça! A bientôt. --Schcambo (talk) 16:15, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

As you like, tell me when you change your mind. If you have some time, I'm trying to work on the North Korea article, it's a sensitive topic so I don't want to rush any changes, but the article is a mess in my opinion (probably one of the worst for any country). It definitely needs grammar/spelling corrections if you can spare some time. A bientôt j'espère ! Mthibault (talk) 18:30, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I would endorse the nomination when the time comes. I think you have made an excellent contribution to Misplaced Pages. Ground Zero | t 20:44, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Why thank you. So have you, by the way. Well done on that ;) --Schcambo (talk) 16:43, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Edinburgh-Scotland map

Hi - the choice of which map is displayed is nothing to do with {{Location map Edinburgh}}. It's all selected by {{Infobox UK place}}. Initially it displayed a Scottish map, then a local one for Edinburgh, then the Scottish one again, the UK one, the Edinburgh one (due to a botched attempt to make it show Scotland), and now the UK one again. I could implement the Scottish map if there's a definite decision that this is what is wanted, but it would mean adding more code to the Infobox UK place template, which is used by several thousand pages, and there's a general consensus not to create special cases for the maps. Warofdreams talk 20:25, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Eddie Irvine

Hi - thanks for digging up some refs on Irvine and the ever-vexed issue of nationality. Sadly, I'm still not convinced (sorry!) - have a look at the talk page and see what you think. Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 12:57, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Merci !

Merci pour ton aide, l'article sur la Corée du Nord avait vraiment besoin de nettoyage ! Mthibault (talk) 21:54, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah, bien sûr, c'est le moindre que je puisse faire! Je pense aussi qu'il a besoin d'être réorganisé un peu; je ferai ça quand j'ai plus de temps. --Schcambo 18:18, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

POTD notification

Hi Schcambo,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture Image:Flatirons Winter Sunrise edit 2.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on April 27, 2008. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2008-04-27. howcheng {chat} 23:04, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

www.bunclody.net

Is there any justification for your changing the description of http://www.bunclody.net/ to "Official website" on Bunclody? Please respond at Talk:Bunclody--Yumegusa (talk) 23:18, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Replied there. --Schcambo 17:26, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Irish county navigation box

Hey,

Just wanted to say good job with the new template - think it solves the issues with the old divisions.

Maith thú! - Donegal92 (talk) 22:07, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Eddie Irvine (#2)

Schcambo, Eddie Irvine always refers to himself as an Irish man in interviews, when asked as to his nationality. So why do you persist in having him described as British. That is not a neutral standpoint. As the "Good Friday" agreement says, any person on the island of Ireland can have Irish citizenship if they so want.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.132.118.87 (talk) 01:00, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Please read the nationality section on his page, where this is all explained. Yes, Irvine self-identified as being Irish, which is acknowledged. So do millions of Americans. It doesn't really mean anything. All evidence and references suggest that Irvine did, and does, have a British passport, which is why the British flag was always flown above him on podiums, except for Argentina '97, when the Irish flag was flown by accident. That too is explained in the section. Thus, in his driver infobox, we show the flag of wherever that person's passport says they are from, which in this case is the UK. --Schcambo 11:14, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Requesting unprotection

Just a pointer: it looks like you added an editprotected tag to Talk:Silent Cry top request unprotection. As the template says, you need to make the request at WP:RFPP. The editprotected tag is just for small changes to protected articles, not to request protection or unprotection. — Carl (CBM · talk) 12:15, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, my mistake, will do. --Schcambo 12:21, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Bertie Ahern

In regards to your edits, being a TD does not necessarily mean you are in government. Ahern is now a backbencher, for all intents and purposes. So that's why I made the edit, and I believe the article should be changed to reflect that. Arbiteroftruth (talk) 23:09, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

State flags

Your recent edits to Brno and Poznań popped up on my watchlist; is there a consensus expressed anywhere to use the state flags instead of national flags for twin-towns in the United States? If so, please could you indicate where. I find it strange that subnational flags should be used exceptionally for one country and one country alone. I can't think of a good reason to distinguish the United States in this regard off the top of my head. Knepflerle (talk) 16:33, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

It's generally done for the countries within the United Kingdom as well. Basically, the whole point of sister cities is that cultural ties are created. Culturally, Toledo is part of Ohio. It describes itself as such on its official sister cities website. Similarly, in relation to Brno and Dallas, on Brno's own twinning website, apart from the use of the U.S. flag once, Dallas is solely described as being part of Texas. They even have "Texan cultural days" apparantly.
Thus I think it falls under WP:FLAGS#Do not use subnational flags without direct relevance, since the state each of these cities is in is clearly relevant to the whole sister cities thing.
(The only reason I actually came upon these cities was that I noticed this single-purpose account was actually deleting all mention of the states.) --Schcambo 17:06, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Dallas is actually described as "Dallas (USA)" when listed along other cities : http://www.brno.cz/index.php?lan=en&nav01=2222&nav02=1249&nav03=1272 "Thus" we should put it this way as well, right ?

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Crazyboz (talk • contribs) 20:59, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I have my reservations, but thanks for your quick response and explanation. If there is to be a widespread change to every article either way, then a prior centralised discussion might be a good thing, but otherwise I suppose it's best to let each article's editing community decide. Reverting the single-purpose account in the interim was probably the right call. Thanks once more, Knepflerle (talk) 17:16, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I was thinking about bringing it up on the talk page of WP:FLAGS, or somewhere else, just to see whether an exemption would be useful, similar to the one the UK countries get for sports-related stuff. Which I shall do. Soon. When I've some more time. ;) --Schcambo 17:24, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I would predict that no-one outside of the US will support the inclusions of these flags in this context, as hardly anyone will ever have seen them before. In my opinion, the inclusion of the state flags detracts rather than adds to the article. I've only noticed this due to watching Wrocŀaw and agree with the editor that has been reverting you, even though the account does seem to be single-purpose. 78.86.18.55 (talk) 19:49, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Stadiums

Stadiums is a proper plural Gnevin (talk) 16:16, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

I see that now actually, but judging by the fact that we have List of European stadia by capacity whereas the American version is List of North American stadiums by capacity, stadia is most likely the more common plural over here? --Schcambo 16:27, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

A search Ireland returns 16,000 results for stadiums, and 235,000 results for stadia. Is that enough to convince you? ;) --Schcambo 16:30, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

I'd like to get the opinion of WP:IE,if you dont mind? Gnevin (talk) 16:46, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Both would seem to be correct usage per dictionary.com though I think the more traditionally educated, British-English or Hiberno_English, will plump for stadia and the Websters, quoted further down that page, also goes with stadia for the plural noun. ww2censor (talk) 17:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok fair enough, use Stadia if you wish Gnevin (talk) 09:52, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Will do. Thanks. --Schcambo 14:18, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Creation by banned editor?

How do you know that Falkirkwheelbush5123 (talk · contribs) is Bennet556 (talk · contribs)? - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 20:08, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

See the two discussions at User talk:Alison. :) --Schcambo 20:10, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Your sig appears to be leaking green ink!) - Alison 21:24, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

I've no idea why!! It only seems to happen on this page... --Schcambo 14:19, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

It's cuz you have a </font> tag missing off the end :) - Alison 16:48, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah that would explain. Still don't know why it only happened here though! --Schcambo 16:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC)