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rfa thanks

Hey IDB, I just wanted to thank you for participating in my recent RFA. while my RFA was run under the shadow of a giant, at least a few people saw fit to pose extra questions to me =). you may be interested in my in-depth RFA analysis (comments welcome). I've also left some templated thank spam below for you. cheers, xenocidic (talk) 13:46, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

RFA

Standards

This user subpage is currently inactive and is retained for historical reference. It was last substantively updated 14 August 2008. If you want to revive discussion regarding the subject, you might try contacting the user in question or seeking broader input via a forum such as the village pump. It was last substantively updated 14 August 2008.

My RFA standards are still being refined, but I rarely base my support on arbitrary cut-offs like number of edits, or length of time editing. More often I will attempt to determine the clue level of a candidate. If high levels of clue are present, they will earn my support, regardless of whether or not they have 5000 non-huggle edits and 6 months of regular activity. This is based on a fairly brief review of their contributions, moreso on their answers to the questions. I have an optional question that I often pose to candidates that helps with this.

Self-noms and the acceptance line

• Neglecting to follow the bolded instruction #6 to delete the acceptance line in the self-nomination instructions will cause me to register a neutral unless a preponderance of clue has already been detected.
• I do this because it is a fairly simple and easy instruction to follow. Not following it is (in my opinion) indicative of a deeper tendency to not thoroughly read and follow instructions generally. Adminship is no big deal, but applying for adminship is. The fact that a candidate hasn't fully versed themselves in the process of RFA prior to jumping in doesn't build confidence that they will accurately follow guidelines and policies in applying administrative actions.
• An example of how this could apply to a real-world admin situation: When blocking for an inappropriate username, it is customary to uncheck the "Prevent account creation" and "Autoblock any IP addresses used" boxes. However, an admin who doesn't thoroughly follow instructions might not do this and as such Misplaced Pages could lose an otherwise constructive contributor.
• One user has mentioned that leaving this line in could be justified by ignore all rules. Quite frankly, I disagree. There is no good reason to ignore this rule, and following it is painless. Attention to detail is a quality I value in an administrator.
• As I mentioned, leaving this line in isn't always a deal breaker and if the candidate's actions indicate to me that this oversight is an anomaly, I may change to, or otherwise support. Furthermore, if they remove the line using only a herring, I will most certainly lend my support, though I may ask that they first bring me a shrubbery.

Participation

1. Thingg - nom, support (69/32/4)
2. WBOSITG 2 - support (114/10/4)
3. Zginder - neutral became moral support in the neutral column and then oppose (8/34/9)
4. Ro098 - oppose (0/3/0)
5. Jbmurray - support (161/1/2)
6. Vivio Testarossa - oppose (8/25/7)
7. Bluegoblin7 - neutral (6/13/10)
8. Guest9999 - support (48/31/4)
9. Paulyb - oppose (0/4/0)
10. Strennman - oppose (0/6/0)
11. Tyw7 - oppose (with moral support) (0/1/0)

    Tyw7 2 - oppose, switched to strong oppose (3/14/1)

12. Xenocidic - candidate (72/13/2)
13. InDeBiz1 - moral support (5/15/2)
14. Useight (RFB) - support (28/16/6)
15. Tinkleheimer - moral support (15/16/8)
16. Ironholds - oppose (12/24/10)
17. Kevin - neutral, switched to support (54/2/0)
18. Pinkville - support (54/0/1)
19. Ali'i - weak support (70/55/14)
20. Cenarium - support (42/2/2)
21. Soxred93 3 - neutral, switched to support (87/7/3)
22. Avruch - support (104/35/10)
23. Cedarvale1965-08 - oppose (0/2/0)
24. Karanacs - support (119/4/3)
25. Plyhmrp - oppose (0/4/0)
26. SarekOfVulcan - support (76/11/2)
27. Golich17 - support (19/36/11)
28. Headbomb - support (17/38/11)
29. oren0 - support (67/21/13)
30. Ryan - support (17/36/2)
31. EricV89 - support (13/43/9)
32. Frank - support (59/11/4)
33. Masterpiece2000 - neutral (10/19/3)
34. JeanLatore - neutral (0/12/1)

    JeanLatore 2 - oppose (0/6/0)

35. RyanLupin 2 - support (32/28/4)
36. Blakegripling ph - support (9/30/9)
37. Lomn - support (54/1/1)
38. Shoessss 2 - support (23/26/7)
39. Tanner-Christopher 2 - support (64/3/4)
40. the demonhog 2 - support (100/1/1)
41. TomStar 81 3 - support (80/18/2)
42. Cailil - support (66/8/5)
43. Lady Aleena 2 - neutral, switched to oppose (28/31/10)
44. Red Phoenix - support (13/7/2)
45. No longer updating, see my RFA participation report

Optional question

Thanks

Thank you for your support

I would like to thank the community for placing their trust in me during my recent request for adminship, which passed 72 13 2 . Rest assured, I have read each comment thoroughly and will be addressing the various concerns raised as I step cautiously into my new role as janitor. In particular, I would like to thank Balloonman for putting so much time into reviewing my contributions and writing such a thoughtful nomination statement after knowing me for only a brief period of time (and for convincing me that I was ready to take up the mop now, rather than go through admin coaching).

To my fellow admins - please let me know right away if I ever take any mis-steps with my new tools. Should I make a mistake, and you reverse the action, I will not consider it to be wheel-warring (but please tell me so I can understand what I did wrong).

To everyone - please feel free to slap me around a bit if I ever lose sight of the core philosophy of Misplaced Pages as I understand it - the advancement of knowledge through the processes of mutual understanding and respect. As always, feel free to drop by my talk page if I can be of any assistance. =)

Sincerely,

~xenocidic, 01:04, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Analysis of my RFA

oh, I almost forgot. for a double support, you get a double thanks! thanks again! ;> xenocidic (talk) 23:53, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

LOL Oops! Sometimes it's hard to remember if I've already chimed in on things and I miss my vote in a scan of the existing ones  :) --InDeBiz1 Review me! | Talk to me! 00:04, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Your RFA

I've been reviewing your stats and contribs for the past few minutes, and I just wanted to ask you a quick question. According to User:InDeBiz1/Standards for Adminship, you state you want a candidate to have 2000 mainspace edits. You have a little over 1000. Yes, I saw the "Please note that this list is certainly not all-inclusive.", but you only have half of what you personally want to see in a candidate. How do you reconcile this? Useight (talk) 02:24, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the question, it is certainly a legitimate one. Since I originally wrote that list, I have reconsidered my position, recognizing that there are roles in the administrative world that don't necessarily involve "editing," in the purest sense. While it is important for a potential candidate to understand what goes into the editing process, I am much more comfortable with someone who has been around the project long enough to have an understanding of policy and be able to relate that policy to the administrative tasks. I have not gotten around to doing it yet, but it has been my intention to change my original 2K number to 1K and focus more on the understanding of policy, as well as knowing when to invoke IAR.

Thanks again for the question. Please do not hesitate, should you have any more! Regards, --InDeBiz1 Review me! | Talk to me! 02:30, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough. As a bonus, I made it into your Adminship Standards page. I had another question, but I forgot what it was. I may think of it again. In the meantime, your RFA's talk page showing your stats shows that you've edited 666 different pages. Bad timing for a snapshot, haha. My talk page was your 667th. Useight (talk) 02:52, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

LOL Yeah, I noticed that, too. Wonder how long until somebody jokingly brings it up in the discussion process??  :) --InDeBiz1 Review me! | Talk to me! 02:56, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it's off to a rocky start. But I think with some more experience you'll have a successful RFA in the near future. I had two end in "No consensus" before my third try was a successful one. Useight (talk) 03:46, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

One bad edit, or one edit worded badly, can derail an RFA. I am not opposing you for that particular edit, but instead for having somewhat too little experience. Useight (talk) 03:58, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Re

Hey, sure, it's not mine. If you click images and the like you can see their licensing details and authors. Most images on Misplaced Pages are freely licensed so anyone can use them for whatever (just make sure not to use fair use images). naerii - talk 05:07, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Your comment on your rfa (spammed links)

Hi, you mentioned a spammed link being a problem in some articles. I haven't looked into the specific issue (sorry), but you can list it for the spam blacklist at MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist#Proposed additions if it's too much of a problem. And you can use Special:Linksearch to find out if it's sneaked in. You should clear any links to to the site if it gets blacklisted so that later editors of articles that do link to the site don't have to wonder what they're doing wrong (since one can't save a revision that has a link to a blacklisted site). - Bobet 07:31, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Your comments

I notice you left a fewmessages to that IP who is constantly targeting rhianna (sic), just to let you know, IP's are NEVER blocked perminantly, as IP's change, you could stop someone who has intentions of contributing to[REDACTED] from doing so, this and the legal threat has convinced me it would be a danger to the project for you to have admin powers. Chafford (talk) 14:18, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I would not have permablocked the IP, as I do understand that IP addresses change occasionally. I would, however, have hit the IP with at least a 7-day block. The "threat," as it was originally written, was not intended how it came across to you and several other readers. I have restated it to better clarify what I meant, which was not as a legal threat, but rather a firm reminder to the user that they were entering a very firmly defined area of copyright issues that could have been costly to them.

Thank you, however, for your comments. I will take them to heart as I continue my contributions around the project over the next 3-6 months before I even think about accepting an AfD nom, as I have had multiple editors offer to nom me in the future. Regards, --InDeBiz1 (talk) 07:59, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Closed your RfA per WP:NOTNOW

IndeBiz,

I've closed your RfA as unsuccesful. It ran for about 12 hours and it looked like a good amount of feedback had been given to you. Please let me know if you have any questions. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 14:24, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: My RfA

In case you aren't watching my talk, I replied over there. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 17:30, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Your RFA

Hi InDeBiz,

Thanks for the note on my talkpage. I think you're on the right track and show great potential. With a bit more expeience I think you'll make a fine admin. Keep up the good work. Best wishes, Majoreditor (talk) 18:56, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Your RfA

I'm sorry to hear that it failed, but glad to hear you're taking the advice you've been given. If you wait a few months, I'm sure you'll be ready for a second RfA. Hell, I'd even nom you.--Koji†Dude 19:19, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi there InDeBiz1, (I like your sig BTW, nice improvement! :-). I've left a message for you on your RFA followup page. Cheers! Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 20:34, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Springfield

I went to Southeast. I graduated last year. God, all the kids graduating this year are making me feel old. :( <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 03:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Your in the radio industry? Awesome. I've been thinking of trying to get into it, but am not sure how. How? :D <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 04:06, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I will do some research. I know CACC is for students who go there, but they also are on air during off-school shifts and such? <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 06:05, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Email sent :) <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 06:19, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Just wanted to ask if you got the email. <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 06:25, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

You Hear Me? (song)

Declined speedy. a7 does not really apply. The subject is not sufficient for it's own article, so I redirected to the artist. Cheers, and happy editing. Dlohcierekim 00:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Joe Kleon

Here's the tag you're looking for, which can be put at the very top of the article ;)

• {{db-spam}}

Gwen Gale (talk) 00:43, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Tagged. Thanks! --InDeBiz1 (talk) 00:46, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Proposed CSD:G1 for Template:SPBLU

Hi InDeBiz1 - I was the reviewing admin checking out your CSD:G1 tagging of Template:SPBLU. That tag is for patent nonsense, but a quick glance in the history of the template shows it is just an ordinary template similar to those commonly seen on the pages of other users. I'm not quite sure how you reached the conclusion it was nonsense. Could you perhaps help me understand your thinking here?

Incidentally, when you put the {{csd}} tag on the template, it also listed the editor's userpage on the CSD list; you might consider putting such tags on the template's talk page. I'd suggest a quick re-read of Misplaced Pages:CSD#Templates to help you better identify which templates fit the criteria for speedy deletion, and I also encourage you to take steps to notify the editor whose template you're proposing for deletion.

I've restored the template to the version before your tag, and have not deleted it. If you feel strongly that it meets some form of deletion criteria, you may nominate it at WP:TFD. I'm not a deletion expert, but if I can help you to figure some things out, please let me know. Best, Risker (talk) 01:31, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Simple case of mistagging and a personal feeling that these userspace templates do nothing but take up unnecessary space on Misplaced Pages, 'tis all. That tagging was perhaps more out of frustration over how many of that particular users edits I'd reverted in the previous few minutes beforehand, due to spam / vandalism / BLP concerns. A long day at work with some of the absolute crap that I've dealt with today sometimes will do that. My apologies.. --InDeBiz1 (talk) 01:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I can understand how some users can be very frustrating; keep in mind that if you're finding someone frustrating, often the best course of action is to step away and let another editor step up to the plate. I find my contributions to Misplaced Pages are least beneficial when I'm really tired or frustrated or have had a bad day in RL, and I suspect I'm not alone in that. It's okay to take some time away from the encyclopedia, especially on days like that; nobody will think less of you. Hope your evening/day gets better. Risker (talk) 01:46, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

You Hear Me

Do not redirect it it's fine SPBLU

Sorry, but that album fits the definition of the phrase "non-notable album" if I've ever heard it. Redirected back to the artist. I suggest a section in the artist's page, if you'd like, but the album itself does not warrant its own article. --InDeBiz1 (talk) 01:58, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Capital Area Career Center

Do you think CACC could possibly be notable enough for an article. I haven't looked for sources or anything yet, but I'm just brainstorming. :) <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 06:58, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Source it well enough and I think that's a decent possibility. I would start the article as a sandbox page in your user space first, though. Something like that will be a likely target for AfD, the way things have been around here lately. --InDeBiz1 (talk) 07:47, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

That's how I started out Cozy Dog Drive-in, which will be WP:DYK next update. :) <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 07:48, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Joe Kleon

It's still not notable, there are likely 50,000+ radio djs in the world with bios like this one. Gwen Gale (talk) 00:44, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

My RFB

Thank you for your comments in my RFB. Since it was only at 64%, it was a shoo-in to be unsuccessful, so I withdrew. I didn't want it to run until its scheduled close time because my intent in standing for RFB was to help the bureaucrats with their workload, not give them one more RfX to close. Through the course of my RFB, I received some very valuable feedback, some of it was contradictary, but other points were well agreed upon. I have ceased my admin coaching for now to give me time to revamp my method. I don't want to give up coaching completely, but I'm going to find a different angle from which to approach it. As for my RFA Standards, I am going to do some deep intraspection. I wrote those standards six months ago and I will slowly retool them. This will take some time for me to really dig down and express what I want in an admin candidate. If, after some serious time of deep thought, I don't find anything to change in them, I'll leave them the way they are. I'm not going to change them just because of some community disagreement as to what they should be. Will I stand for RFB again in the future? I don't know. Perhaps some time down the road, when my tenure as an administrator is greater than one year, if there is a pressing need for more active bureaucrats, maybe. If there no pressing need, then maybe not. Useight (talk) 03:15, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

No Offense But You're Nonsensical

I mean saying a music artist has little control in their career is true in some cases, but not fully. If Ciara stated "High Price" is set to premiere on V-103 and on AOL Music, it's going to happen. Additionally, how do you expect to see sources from a spur of the moment RADIO interview? It's nonsensical like I said, and I can't wait until June 16th so you can view how foolish you look. (NewCiaraFan09 (talk) 00:32, 15 June 2008 (UTC)