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*'''Keep''' - it's pretty clearly a notable subject. I quickly found two sources, which I've cited: substantial coverage in reliable third party sources of the subject at hand, namely the overall practice of skiing in the country of Lebanon. Certainly there are many more sources out of which a proper article can be built. If there is a copyvio here that's a separate matter and the offending material should be deleted. ] (]) 14:21, 4 July 2008 (UTC) | *'''Keep''' - it's pretty clearly a notable subject. I quickly found two sources, which I've cited: substantial coverage in reliable third party sources of the subject at hand, namely the overall practice of skiing in the country of Lebanon. Certainly there are many more sources out of which a proper article can be built. If there is a copyvio here that's a separate matter and the offending material should be deleted. ] (]) 14:21, 4 July 2008 (UTC) | ||
*:You seem to have found sources for the (uncontroversial) fact that Skiing exists in Lebanon. Unless we manage to find sources for the ] (the bulk of the article), we should consider merging the reliable information (just one paragraph?) to ] or some other article. --] 15:50, 4 July 2008 (UTC) | *:You seem to have found sources for the (uncontroversial) fact that Skiing exists in Lebanon. Unless we manage to find sources for the ] (the bulk of the article), we should consider merging the reliable information (just one paragraph?) to ] or some other article. --] 15:50, 4 July 2008 (UTC) | ||
*'''Comment''' Damiens.rf started this issue by claiming it was blantant copyright which is not very true because the info in the site http://www.skimzaar.com/faraya-mzaar/ski-resort/history-skiing.asp is of public knowledge. What is funny is that it is all about history, whle Damiens.rf now claims he has issues with reliability of history. mr Damiens.rf, you have vandalized articles related to this topic and some individuals associated. I dont know who you are, but I think you are the problem. So let us delete thsi one and all the others you have tagged for deletion. Anyway, people can find the info about the topic and the individuas all over the internet, if they need soe references. |
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Skiing in Lebanon
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This is the virtually same article that was deleted less than 24 hours ago at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Ski Lebanon. It just had some fixes so that the copyvio from this site wasn't so blatant. Damiens.rf 03:53, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
- Comment Note that this page is also up for WP:CSD#G4; I'm not sure if this is eligible for it however, considering the last AfD ended in a speedy and non-admin closure. --/Mendaliv//Δ's/ 08:09, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
- Delete - No opinion on the speedy as I didn't see the original. That said, there is nothing notable about the "topic", whatever it might be. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 13:03, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
- Comment. I removed the G4, Mendaliv is correct, this isn't eligible as the previous AFD never ran its course. Let this run its course. I recommend someone try to find sources to help ascertain the notability of this particular pasttime in this particular country. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 18:23, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
- Comment. Speaking as the previous tagger, the previously deleted article was an exact copy and paste job from that skileb page, a copyrighted website, and thus unambiguously satisfied the "blatant copyright infringement" criterion of CSD G12, warranting deletion on sight by an administrator. In terms of this nomination, I agree with Keeper. No prejudice against a) letting this running its course and b) pursual of sources being added to assert notability - this reveals something that this article could be a part of perhaps? WilliamH (talk) 22:49, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: Please note that the current article is just a small modification of the text at the original copyvio site. --Damiens.rf 23:30, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
- Keep The fact that many info is from website does only confirm reliability. As per notability, what is not notable for somebody in Kansas City might be notable in the Middle East and I think it is intersesting for everybody on earth to know that one can ski in the Middle-East. I need to add that following the editing conflict on this article with Damiens.fr, this editor has tagged and requested deletion of many article with links to this one. I believe this is unfair and is enough to withdraw any credibility from this editor. Lebprofiler (talk) 23:17, 3 July 2008 (UTC)Lebprofiler
- Comment: Please bear in mind that what an editor from Kansas City finds notable against what an editor from the Middle East finds notable isn't really a determining factor - reliable, verifiable, independent coverage is. WilliamH (talk) 16:37, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
- Keep - it's pretty clearly a notable subject. I quickly found two sources, which I've cited: substantial coverage in reliable third party sources of the subject at hand, namely the overall practice of skiing in the country of Lebanon. Certainly there are many more sources out of which a proper article can be built. If there is a copyvio here that's a separate matter and the offending material should be deleted. Wikidemo (talk) 14:21, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
- You seem to have found sources for the (uncontroversial) fact that Skiing exists in Lebanon. Unless we manage to find sources for the History section (the bulk of the article), we should consider merging the reliable information (just one paragraph?) to Lebanon or some other article. --Damiens.rf 15:50, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
- Comment Damiens.rf started this issue by claiming it was blantant copyright which is not very true because the info in the site http://www.skimzaar.com/faraya-mzaar/ski-resort/history-skiing.asp is of public knowledge. What is funny is that it is all about history, whle Damiens.rf now claims he has issues with reliability of history. mr Damiens.rf, you have vandalized articles related to this topic and some individuals associated. I dont know who you are, but I think you are the problem. So let us delete thsi one and all the others you have tagged for deletion. Anyway, people can find the info about the topic and the individuas all over the internet, if they need soe references.