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			== Summary of Events Concerning False Sock Puppetry Accusations against User: Romaioi ==

			On 25 June 2008, an accusation was made by ] that ], a relatively new user, was a sock puppet.
			During the presentation of evidence, the written evidence presented against ] was manipulative and misrepresentative. The manner of some of the accusations represent personal attacks. Moreover, ] was implied to be a fanatic because he chose to defend against the accusations. Defense was presented by ] in accordance with the ] outlined to him.

			On 2 July 2008, it was '''categorically'' shown (at ] & ]) that ] was not a sock puppet. Further, this is clear evidence that all assumptions made about ] been wrong!
			The saga has should also be a reminder for whoever wishes to raise such accusations against anyone in future to ''be more thorough in their examination of the evidence before stepping over that line.'' It certainly would not have taken much investigation to observe distinctly different patterns between ] and the rest of the suspected socks.

			'''No acknowledgement of his error or apology (for either the mistakes or the personal attacks) has been made by ].'''

			The extreme prejudice by ] against ] has continued after the sock puppetry case. ] has committed acts of ] on edits by ], before, during, and after the sock puppetry case against him. These have been in the form of deletion of edits that ] has contributed (either in part or in whole) and typically making false accusations of ] as justification for removal.

			All content presented by ] is verifiable, has been supported by citations from published third-party texts, and was contributed on ].

			] has been criticized for making personal attacks against ] during his defense. These so-called ''personal attacks'' were in the form of demonstrating (and claiming) ] to be lying and/or to be manipulative. '''Yet, it should be noted that no criticism has been made of ] for his treatment of ].'''

			Whilst the overall cause for which ] was working for was good, his treatment of an innocent contributor has been reprehensible and devoid of ].

			] (]) 15:00, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


			<small> This subject should not be altered in any. It’s purpose is to summarize events pertaining to the false accusations towards and treatment of ]. Because the intention is brevity, additional comments will be deleted – background information can be sought in the archives and the related evidence pages. Acts of ] will be reported in accordance with guidelines at ]. The message is to remain here as a permanent reminder of the and example of abuse of authority that remains largely unacknowledged. </small>

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Welcome!

Hello, Romaioi, and welcome to Misplaced Pages! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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I'm answering your reply here:

Thank you for your contributions to Roman Empire, that article truly needs additional references. And, yes, some of the references in there do need to be fixed. The proper way of using references on Misplaced Pages is described here. It might look overwhelming, but once you get used to those templates they actually make editing easier and the articles more reliable. Drop a note on my talk page if you need any help.

I don't claim to know a lot about the Roman civilisation (though I did study their architecture for a few years), but I do agree the traditional description of the Romans is simplistic (as is the traditional description of Ancient Greek civilisation).

Regarding your user name, you are free to choose virtually any name you want. The recommendation to remain anonymous is mostly a concern for your own privacy. If you want to, you can describe yourself on your user page, but that's up to you.

Again, let me know if I can help you in any way

/ Raven in Orbit (t | c) 15:02, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks very much Raven. Sorry for the inconsitencies in my referencing. I was not intending to go into the "detail" that I did as I knew I would need my books to refer to - most of the ones I need are in storage. Its a shame about the simplicity seeing that it is based on scholarship that is now over a hundred years old. So much has been learned since then yet much of the literature available to the public continues to paint the old picture. The manner in which the other cultures are generally neglected adds to the dissappointment. On the whole though, that Roman empire article is quite goood. In fact I have been rather impressed with the degree of detail, and scope of coverage in Misplaced Pages in general. It is proving quite a success.

Thanks also for the offers of assistance and the tip on the tilda's. I read about them but didn't catch on until your reply.

I hope to be able to contribute more soon.

Best wishes,

Romaioi (talk) 15:36, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Summary of Events Concerning False Sock Puppetry Accusations against User: Romaioi

On 25 June 2008, an accusation was made by User: noclador that User: Romaioi, a relatively new user, was a sock puppet. During the presentation of evidence, the written evidence presented against User: Romaioi was manipulative and misrepresentative. The manner of some of the accusations represent personal attacks. Moreover, User: Romaioi was implied to be a fanatic because he chose to defend against the accusations. Defense was presented by User: Romaioi in accordance with the rules outlined to him.

On 2 July 2008, it was 'categorically shown (at link1 & link2) that User: Romaioi was not a sock puppet. Further, this is clear evidence that all assumptions made about User: Romaioi been wrong! The saga has should also be a reminder for whoever wishes to raise such accusations against anyone in future to be more thorough in their examination of the evidence before stepping over that line. It certainly would not have taken much investigation to observe distinctly different patterns between User: Romaioi and the rest of the suspected socks.

No acknowledgement of his error or apology (for either the mistakes or the personal attacks) has been made by User: noclador.

The extreme prejudice by User: noclador against User: Romaioi has continued after the sock puppetry case. User: noclador has committed acts of vandalism on edits by User: Romaioi, before, during, and after the sock puppetry case against him. These have been in the form of deletion of edits that User: Romaioi has contributed (either in part or in whole) and typically making false accusations of Misplaced Pages:Vandalism as justification for removal.

All content presented by User: Romaioi is verifiable, has been supported by citations from published third-party texts, and was contributed on good faith.

User: Romaioi has been criticized for making personal attacks against User: noclador during his defense. These so-called personal attacks were in the form of demonstrating (and claiming) User: noclador to be lying and/or to be manipulative. Yet, it should be noted that no criticism has been made of User: noclador for his treatment of User: Romaioi.

Whilst the overall cause for which User: noclador was working for was good, his treatment of an innocent contributor has been reprehensible and devoid of good faith.

Romaioi (talk) 15:00, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

This subject should not be altered in any. It’s purpose is to summarize events pertaining to the false accusations towards and treatment of User: Romaioi. Because the intention is brevity, additional comments will be deleted – background information can be sought in the archives and the related evidence pages. Acts of Misplaced Pages:Vandalism will be reported in accordance with guidelines at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. The message is to remain here as a permanent reminder of the and example of abuse of authority that remains largely unacknowledged.

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