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I don't know which link you are referring to, but if I added a link I thought it was relevant to the subject in question. I have nothing to sell and no wish to advertise. If i knew which link you were referring to it would help me to see my mistake. Oxyman42 00:05, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I shouldn't worry about it too much. From the look of it, it was the links you were adding for articles on www.closertogod.net, drawing improbable comparisons with Masonic symbols. If you are not associated with closertogod.net, then it probably wasn't technically spam linking. Nevertheless, if you are finding websites that discuss some subject, then looking for articles to add them to - that's a bad idea. Instead, its better to know a subject well, then edit that article and find the one or two most appropriate web sites for that subject. Or indeed not add external links at all - after all Misplaced Pages doesn't really want any external links. We really want content inside the encyclopedia. -- Solipsist 06:57, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

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there seems to be a mistake this image is not my work Oxyman42 (talk) 18:17, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Poll options on Fred Dibnah's birthplace

I've started a poll on Talk:Fred Dibnah with four options for his birthplace area. As you've edited the main Fred Dibnah article, I'm letting you know about this Poll and the chance to vote one of the options. Cwb61 (talk) 23:59, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

The meaning of "BRUTE"

Hi Oxyman; I saw your question on the talk page of the British Rail Class 307 article regarding the meaning of "brute", which was on one of the picture captions. I have edited this to reflect that it is correctly referred to as a BRUTE, being an acronym of British Rail Universal Trolley Equipment. Hassocks5489 (talk) 18:50, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Two accounts?

Hi Oxyman42. While looking into the situation at Inventions in the Islamic world I noticed User:Oxyman and User:79.68.135.210 also made edits on the article. Oxyman's name is very similar to yours and edits on similar articles. If this is indeed yourself then take a look at Misplaced Pages:Sock_puppet#Alternative_account_notification and follow the instructions. It might be as well if the other account is not yourself, to inform a checkuser that the other account is not yourself in order to avoid potential future problems. The IP account made a revert edit which could be seen as your account avoiding the three revert rule. As you know, it's bad enough to edit war to the third degree, but it's considered even worse to mask that third degree revert by using a sock puppet account. Taking a quick look at your talk page I see you have previously used a sock puppet and then deleted the information. My inclination now is to report this situation in order to ensure transparency and trust. I'd be interested to hear what you say before I do that, however I may go ahead and report within the next hour if I don't get an immediate response. SilkTork * 13:46, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Category:History of Islamic science

I removed the {{POV}} tag you placed on this category. I could not dertermine what it was you were disputing and it is not really the right tag to be using for categories in any event. You might want to take the category to WP:CFD if you believe it needs to be mergered or renamed. If your concerns was over a particular article in the category you should tag the article rather than the category. Maybe {{Category relevant?}} or {{Checkcategory}} would be more in line with your concerns if that is the problem. Let me know if you need any help figuring it all out.--BirgitteSB 17:40, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you should first take Islamic science to WP:RM. If all goes well there ask the closing admin if they would feel comfortable moving the categories to an equvilent name as non-contentious. Or if you can get a favorable move for that page, I am willing to setup all the CFD's once I have the consensus name to link to. I don't think the categories will recieve support for a move as long as Islamic science exists as the main article. I am not sure if this exactly a POV issue although I do understand your concern over this not being the most accurate name.--BirgitteSB 21:27, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

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Please be careful about your tone at Talk:Inventions in the Islamic world

Hi there Oxyman42. I have been asked to take a look at escalating tensions on the talk page for Inventions in the Islamic World. I was troubled by a few of your edits, and I would like to discuss this.

First and foremost, I want to say that I agree with you that the article has major problems. It is way too long, it is completely unsourced, many of the claims are dubious, and the tone is generally very WP:PEACOCKy. There are editors who are working on the problem, such as User:Frotz, who has been removing some of the more outlandish claims. Over time, hopefully this article can be repaired, because you are correct that in it's current state, it is not a great article.

That said, some of the comments you have made on the Talk page are inappropriate, and actually serve to hinder your cause rather than to help improve the article. For instance, your sarcastic assertion here that Muslims "developed, even if they didn't invent" suicide bombing (which is not only false, but is an unfair generalization, and borders on ethnic stereotyping).

Another example is here where you assert that any of Frotz's improvements to the article will be immediately removed because of some sort of secret organization within WP:ISLAM. First of all, your premise is false -- Frotz's edits have not been reverted, because he is actually improving the article rather than attacking Islam (see below). Secondly, allegations of a conspiracy never help your case. (You might want to take a look at this essay, where a user gives his thoughts on this) It is a monumental assumption of bad faith to suggest that other editors changes are driven by a hidden agenda.

This is all particularly frustrating, because you have grossly misrepresented the edits that were reverted. Frotz's edits are not being reverted because he is addressing the problems with the article, by removing dubious claims and tidying it up. I hate to drag out an old edit from January, but I think this edit is representative of the quality of edits you have been contributing to the article. "o Muslim has contributed to society since the Golden Age"? Are you serious, you think this is a factually correct, verifiable, neutral addition to the article??? You should not be surprised that such attacks are reverted.

In any case, your continued comments at Talk:Inventions in the Islamic world are not helpful, and they only make things more difficult for legitimate editors like Frotz to work on the egregious problems with this article. Honestly, if I were you, I would refrain from commenting on a topic that you have such strong emotional feelings about. If you must comment, then please make sure your tone is more measured and that you do not resort to sweeping generalizations, sarcasm, or allegations of a conspiracy. Thanks, and happy wiki-ing! --Jaysweet (talk) 14:27, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

I think that the agenda of WP:Islam is open and evident even in it's name rather than hidden

Underground pics

Hi Oxyman, I see that you and I have whittled down the list of stations lacking any images to a bare five. Do you have any plans to do any of the remainder? I actually took some pics of Northwick Park on Wednesday before I saw you had uploaded your pics the previous evening! Anyway that station and neighbouring Kenton have a special place in my heart because way back in 1994 when I first went to Uni they were the first stations at the edge of Travelcard Zone 4 that I visited (apart from my base, Newbury Park). But back then I lacked a camera of any kind, let alone digital! best, Sunil060902 (talk) 11:16, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Nice pics of the stations you visited at the weekend. This morning I took some pics of West Ruislip, South Ruislip and Northolt (and Ruislip Gardens roundel only). However I'm not sure of the adverse weather conditions affected any of them, but I will upload them tonight (South Ruislip Chiltern Rail platforms were taken during a torrential downpour - so not too hopeful about these!). best, Sunil060902 (talk) 11:49, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh BTW I added the "commonscat" thing to Northwick Park tube station, and I also forgot that I took an exterior view of Ruislip. best, Sunil060902 (talk) 14:10, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks very much! I actually went back to retake some of the pics I took earlier that day but then the complicating factor was the low sun! Yes there's still a lot of ticks left to insert on the Current Stations Images list. I have been adding to the list steadily. I also like your pics too. I notice you use a far higher resolution than me, I chose 1600 x 1200 since that seems a reasonable size for computer monitors. Generally I aim to take surface and sub-surface station platforms looking up and down, the platform signage, and the exterior. Tube stations at least one tunnel, maybe both, depends how crowded they are! Again without crowing too loudly, it is my aim is to photo all the stations for my own collection (around 80 at last count), but we'll see how it goes. As a side project now I'm back in London I'm also trying to re-enact my travels as a student and take in all the TfL and mainline routes within Zone 4. Well that's my prepaid Oyster, when I feel like splashing out on ticket extensions, I'll expand to Zone 6 (already done West Ruislip tube!). best, Sunil060902 (talk) 10:50, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Routemaster

I reverted your edit removing my new text. I don't like to make a revert restoring text, but your revert was so obviously incorrect that I've allowed myself one such revert. I thought, first, of asking you to revert yourself, because I think you really were making a simple mistake. You challenged text with a cn tag, then I changed the text to something new that I thought would not need a cn tag, and then you restored the very text that you had objected to. This starts to look like a WP:POINT violation, I hope that's not the case, that it was simply an oversight. Please do not remove my edit except to replace it with something better. If you think the new text needs a cn tag, then the proper thing to do would have been to add it, not revert. That would not have been edit warring, it would have been adding a new tag to new text, allegedly unsourced and allegedly needing a source. Be careful. Once blocked, your actions will be subjected, typically, to higher scrutiny. It's actually not fair, but that's the way it is. Word to the wise.... --Abd (talk) 20:46, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Looking at the above, you are skating on thin ice. --Abd (talk) 20:47, 19 July 2008 (UTC)