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Free Blowjobs

Now that I have your attention, how are you? Beam 03:17, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Dammit I really got excited for a second ;). I'm fine as usual, although a bit busier than I used to be. You? BalkanFever 03:27, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm ok. I'm going to be focusing on getting Mahatma Gandhi properly named. Beam 03:48, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Have fun with that. Hopefully I can get time to improve bits of Kosovo. BalkanFever 08:07, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:More trolling

Hello, and thankyou for bringing this to my attention. Before I proceed with this, are you sure that this is the same person as someone I blocked before? Lradrama 19:30, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I thought I had come across this person before. The behavioural pattern is exactly the same, and a checkuser shows that this is a case of abusing multiple accounts. I have extended the range block - 6 months like the rest of them. Lradrama 10:41, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

That is rather interesting...is that saying that the IP can still edit when blocked? :S Lradrama 19:21, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Comments

I apologize for deleting that comment, it was rude of me to take a liberty of doing so; it might start a precedent. It is too late and too long to explain the snake-->terrorist notion but I can sum up all Serbian derogatory terms, "secessionist-terrorists", "muslim terrorists", "albanian terrorists", "kla terrorists", "uck terrorsits" and anything else + terrorists. A few other terms are Siptar, Shitpar, siptarski terroristi, etc. Ari d'Kosova (talk) 06:26, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Careful, BalkanFever is a well known terrorist. He once, and I'm not joking, terrified me. It was terrible. Beam 19:24, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Are you viewing my every action? I was referring to the Sharr mountains? LOL, i wanted to see if anyone would notice. Thanks for you reverting everything. Ari d'Kosova (talk) 22:04, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Not your actions, I stalk BalkanFever. Beam 23:26, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Macedonia naming dispute discussion

User:Hellasforever has removed my section "Articles about Greek actions against Macedonia/Macedonians due to naming issue" in the discussion section of the Macedonia name issue. The section had many articles which should have been used in the Macedonia naming dispute article. Here are some of the articles:

Greek Paper shows Bush as Hitler and a Macedonian swastika (the same time the Greek swastika occurred - right before NATO)

Macedonians attacked in Greece

Another cowardly attack on Macedonians in Greece

Greek authorities continue to abuse ethnic Macedonians

Greece abuses Macedonians at the border, again

Greek MP asks for death penalty for Macedonians in Greece

Greek-Macedonian name dispute leads to ban on lamb meat

Macedonia Plane Barred from Greek Airspace

Macedonia to ask Greece for explanation on MAT

Greece bans financial transfers from, and to Macedonia

Greece outrages Macedonia with ban on presidential flight

UMD Taken Aback by Metropolitan Anthimos’ Threatening Statement (Top Greek bishop calls for war with Macedonia)

Another Greek metropolitan bishop states territorial claims for Macedonia

Greek media fumes over comments from MOC

Greece's comments of H.H. Stefan's statement in Rome intended for domestic political scene

Heated debate at the EU, Macedonian delegation not present

Protest letter sent to Nato over an incident

Either undo the edit User:Hellasforever did, or repost those, or read the articles and use them in the Macedonia naming dispute appropriately. Mactruth (talk) 03:53, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

To all stalkers

I've been without internet for a few days, and it won't be back until next week. Right now I'm using a public computer, and so I'm not logged in. Hope all goes well in the Balkans (and everywhere else). BalkanFever. 124.190.136.31 (talk) 10:44, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Oks, have a nice vacation :) --Laveol 12:46, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Take it easy. (1 down, 1,999,999 to go ;) jk) 3rdAlcove (talk) 20:49, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Hehe thanks guys :). BalkanFever 11:44, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Uncivility

Ok, what was that about? "Probably cause you suck"? And why in the world did you need to say that? You might have only left it with a note - this is not a forum or something - why do you feel the need to add such things? --Laveol 10:44, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

It's a joke, and I'm pretty sure he does suck anyway. BalkanFever 10:53, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

You're pretty sure?? Are you sure you're BalkanFever and not someone else? --Laveol 10:54, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I'm BalkanSickness. How did you know? btw continue the thing from FP's page here if you want BalkanFever 11:49, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, I'm not sure we've got anything else to say - I mean we're not linguists and we just need to cut the political stuff from the articles (both of the political craps) and that's it. Let's wait for Fut.Perf's opinion --Laveol 12:06, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, and not falsify sources (I really, really, don't believe Schmeiger talks about Bulgarian). BTW the plural is crap (same goes for shit); it's not like Slavic :) BalkanFever 12:12, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Not true. Observe: "BalkanFever's intellect isn't worth two shits." See? Plural! Beam 12:18, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, yes, we have that, but one can't say "Beamathan should stop writing these shits", can they? BalkanFever 12:21, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

One could, but one would be an idiot to do so. So fine, as long as you admit I'm the man, we can agree. Agreed? Good. Beam 12:54, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, obviously. BalkanFever 07:14, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Y'know

I'd probably take 10 of youse guys over Dodona, any day. 3rdAlcove (talk) 11:43, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I'd take us too ;). Seriously, he sounds like he's 10. BalkanFever 11:49, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Welcome

Thank you, BalkanFever. Just a quick question, is the Selski speech article intended as a joke? --Iobyo (talk) 14:33, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

I probably should have asked PMK1. Either way, I plan to make a lot of changes to that article. --Iobyo (talk) 14:35, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

He's on holiday, but go ahead, be bold. BalkanFever 14:36, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

This is my attempt at a rewrite with what I believe to be a much better title. Should I suggest a merge on the talk page or just go ahead and redirect the Selski speech article? --Iobyo (talk) 15:58, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Looks good. Personally, I would suggest "Vernacular Macedonian" as the title, since it can be written as well (as with Makedonska Iskra). All you have to do is replace the content of Selski speech with your rewrite, and then I'll move the article. BalkanFever 16:05, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

The term vernacular is a little too broad. There aren't really any standardized Macedonian dialects, so words like ојме will only ever appear in speech (ignoring stylistics and such). If that word is characteristic of speakers of a certain dialect and if that dialect were to be standardized and codified into a literary one, одиме would be prescribed. So, they're actually two different things and why I choose to use the title Spoken Macedonian. --Iobyo (talk) 16:29, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough. I'll ask an admin friend to merge the history now. BalkanFever 16:37, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Kobra

Why must you call me Kosovo2008? As far goat milk vs cow milk, I do have a serious answer but I think you two are joking around so I won't answer till I find out the tone of the discussion. I'm also looking to change my username from Kosova2008 ---> Ari d'Kosova, any thoughts? Ari d'Kosova (talk) 20:12, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Re. Article merge

Hello BalkanFever. I have merged the articles you requested. Respective histories merged too. I'm fine by the way, hope you're doing well. :-) Best regards, Húsönd 00:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Standard Macedonian

It's a little complicated and your question deserves a detailed response so I'll get back to you soon. In my opinion, both articles should be kept though they do need a lot of work. For comparison, see Standard French and Standard Spanish. --Iobyo (talk) 03:10, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

I've just noticed that I somehow copied the intro of Standard Macedonian from the Standard German article, so I'll need to fix that too. --Iobyo (talk) 03:11, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

It's a similar case with the Macedonian language. Unfortunately, not much has been written about the spoken language even though we all speak of the разговорен јазик and книжевен јазик. --Iobyo (talk) 05:25, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Do you think we should use the term книжевен or литературен јазик? They are synonymous but the latter is a loanword (and also more frequently used). --Iobyo (talk) 08:51, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

I think listing them both is much better too considering they're both widely used. It really comes down one's linguistic politics: книжевност (puristic) vs литература (loan). --Iobyo (talk) 09:07, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

That's an easy one: telephone! All jokes aside, the Czechs and Croats should be admired for their efforts to keep their language free from foreign influence. --Iobyo (talk) 09:17, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Shkupi Kosova

Aegean Macedonia? You probably heard of Shkupi Kosova, it extends to Struga and the majority language (I am told) is Albanian. Politis (talk) 14:28, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

よう あれ あ ふcきんg いぢおt. BalkanFever 14:30, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

هَوِ يُو هَِرد ُف كُبرَ'س ديطك؟ يت ِختِندس دون تُ يُور سمَلل ينتِستينِ، مُثِرفوطكِر! Köbra 14:38, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

O RLY? And what does it do there? Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:49, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

It puts the lotion on the skin. BalkanFever 15:02, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

About anons creating pages

I'd thought it would be easier to reach you here, it's about this discussion. Is it an automated process, like, some wikipedia hits, lets say, 20k articles for example, and then it's no longer a "smaller" wikipedia. Anons then have no rights to create new articles. Or can admins control this somehow. We're kinda confused here. Or maybe we're just plain dumb. :S Future perfect, if you are reading this, maybe you know something. How can we stop anon users from creating new articles? ktnxbye Brainmachine (talk) 12:58, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Responded there. BalkanFever 13:04, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

It's a setting you can change in a config file. See . Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:17, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Can you believe that shit?

I can't believe I got blocked. I'm probably going to have to kill myself, but first I seek revenge on those who have slighted me. Beam 19:18, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Good to know. BalkanFever

I'm glad you feel good now, pity you don't think I shall seek revenge against you. Beam 14:56, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

AN/i report about you

Notification of proceedings against you at the notice board. Beam 15:38, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks :). BalkanFever 10:10, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

ჰეy. ი დონ'თ ქნოw იf yოუ'რე ინთენდინგ თო cომმენთ ონ თჰის cასე ორ ნოთ, ბუთ ა wორდ ოf ადვიcე: თრy ნოთ თო cომმენთ ნო მათთერ wჰათ, ალwაyს გეც მე ოუთ ოf თროუბლე ;) Yოურ ლაcქ ოf ინთერესთ wილლ მაქე თჰე ფროcეედინგ ჰარდერ fორ თჰე "ბად გუyს". Köbra 10:21, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

ქე გი ოსთავამ დო უთრე ი აქო თრება ქე რეჩამ ნეშთო. ისთო თაქა, ფოდობრო ე აქო ფიშუვამე მაქედონსქი, აქო სლუჩაჯნო ნექოჯ ზნაე და ჯა მენი აზბუქათა :). BalkanFever 10:33, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Provocative link that shows half of Greece occupied by FYROM

Dear Balkinfever. You have a link on your user page A pretty good example that leads to an image of half of Greece under the control of FYROM (not to mention a few other nations in the region are completely engulfed). I shouldn't have to remind you that such images only confirm the accuracy of Greek complaints of active irredentism by some FYROM citizens which goes against the spirit of both US/UN resolutions that condemn such acts as "propaganda".

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:S.Res.300:
(please add colon ':' to end of url in address bar if link fails. For some reason Misplaced Pages doesn't like URLs that end in a colon)

By placing such links on your website you appear to be endorsing future human rights atrocities and ethnic cleansing against 2.5 million people in Greece that identify as "Macedonian" (Greek ones) but aren't ethnically slavic nor remotely relate to FYROM. (much like citizens in FYROM before the break up of Yugoslavia identified both as "Yugoslavian" and "Macedonian")

I believe Misplaced Pages guidelines of proper conduct are incompatible with such images and ask that your link be immediately removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.161.239.31 (talk) 19:58, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Stop trolling him, now. Beam 00:41, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm not "trolling". I think it is very offensive and inappropriate to offend millions of Greeks in the manner he has. Suppose if someone had images of half your country being occupied by another... and showed every sign of working to that goal? I doubt you would find it particularly funny.

I would recommend YOU stop trolling and let BalkanFever either justify it why it is appropriate... or remove it. If it is not removed within 72 hours I will make a formal complaint to Misplaced Pages's editorial board. 209.161.230.168 (talk) 03:46, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:S.Res.300:

I look forward to your report. I'd recommend not wasting your time, and just stop now. Beam 03:58, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

I noticed you have an ongoing relationship with BalkanFever. I just pulled this from your user page.

I, BalkanFever, award you the Barnstar of Good Humor, for your constant hilarity on my talk page. Keep it up! BalkanFever

Do you think it possible this conflict of interest may have created a bias in your NPOV? The reason why I suggest this is instead of spending a minute to review my issue... you ignored it completely and harassed me (twice) to basically get lost.... on someone else's talk page? 209.161.230.168 (talk) 04:53, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Gia sou, whoever you are. This is a massive misunderstanding, and I must say on your part. The map in question is showing the fact that irredentist ideals in the Balkans overlap. If you look at the light blue line, it shows a "Greater Greece", which includes Cyprus, European Turkey, and parts of Albania, Bulgaria, and the Republic of Macedonia.

The red line shows "Greater Serbia", the brown line "Greater Bulgaria" and so on. The point of the map, which is published by an expert neutral, reliable, verifiable source, is to make you think "What if all nationalist desires in the Balkans could be fulfilled?". The point is that they cannot, because irredentism overlaps. Balkan people, when in large nationalist groups, are, for want of a less offensive word, idiots. It's like a sickness (or fever, hence my username). That being said, I have many Balkan friends (I myself am, obviously, from the Balkans), even Greeks. Most of those Greeks even call me a simple "Macedonian" and my country "Macedonia". It's probably because they don't care about a petty dispute. BalkanFever 10:25, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Wow...I was already explaining it. I had it all under control, and then YOU edit conflict me. Thanks. Beam 10:28, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Well thank you, for understanding the (obvious) point of the map. But the troll wasn't going to listen to you, no matter what you said. On an aside, one of the symptoms of Balkan Fever is excessive use of five-letter acronyms. BalkanFever 10:37, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, since you EC'd me, I'm changing my recommendation to community ban at the ANi. Beam 10:41, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Ah, this must be the revenge you were talking about! What a fool I've been. BalkanFever 10:47, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

(outdent)lol, you're an asshole rivaling my own assholeness. I saw where you told an anon user "probably cause you suck" and then an (admin?) editor asked you about, lol, you really respond by saying "I'm pretty sure he does suck anyway." When I was reading the ANi report I fucking almost choked on my coffee. Beam 10:54, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, I try. Laveol is a big sack o' fun. He's too serious sometimes, and he overreacts to some things (usually my jokes). Some of the guys you've met take things too seriously as well, no? BalkanFever 11:09, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Shit man, I got admins so far up my ass I have to eat two bowls of cereal for breakfast or I'd be hungry the whole morning. And then the next admin comes along, and sees all these "blocks" and says to himself "i'm going to get me some of that" and bam I got another bullshit block. I don't even get the decency of an ANi where people can badmouth me publicly, you're so lucky for even that. Beam 11:18, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

(EC) Sigh. The map shows the ambitions of the factions of the Balkans. One time ambitions, former ambitions, or current ambitions. He's explaining the meaning of his user name: "BalkanFever." As in CabinFever happens when your stuck inside for a period of time, BalkanFever happens when your in the Balkans or interested in them for a time: considering everyone there has aspirations of empire. He never once endorses one side over the other in that map. And I thought this was obvious, or I wouldn't call you a troll and laugh it off. Beam 10:26, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Dear Balkanfever, I'm not sure if I'm adding these comments in the correct location. I am new to Misplaced Pages so please bear with me as I better learn Misplaced Pages's methods.

Unfortunate your map shows the entire northern area of Greece as occupied by something called "greater macedonia". In addition your handle is "balkanfever", you show a considerable bias against Greek Macedonians with your user page news article listings (several which are inaccurate sensationalist titles from FYROM news sources), you did prior mass edits against the naming issue article without offering justifications for each... and now you expect me to take you seriously that your intent isn't occupation of Macedonia Greece, usurpation of Macedonian Greek heritage, and to direct propaganda/hate at Greeks? Consider what happened in the US when a vodka company company simply produced this ad.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/laplaza/2008/04/mexico-reconque.html

I'm sorry. I reject your claim of innocence and point you back to the a couple of clauses in a recent US Senate resolution condemning acts of propaganda against Greece by FYROM. (signed by Senator Obama I might add)

"Whereas a television report in recent years showed students in a state-run school in FYROM still being taught that parts of Greece, including Greek Macedonia, are rightfully part of FYROM"

Whereas, on September 13, 1995, Greece and FYROM signed a United Nations-brokered Interim Accord that, among other things, commits them to not `support claims to any part of the territory of the other party or claims for a change of their existing frontiers';

Whereas the aforementioned acts constitute a breach of FYROM's international obligations deriving from the spirit of the United Nations Interim Accord, which provide that FYROM should abstain from any form of `propaganda' against Greece's historical or cultural heritage;

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:S.Res.300: (Note: If the above link doesn't work please manually add a colon ":" to end of address bar)

Unless you have further points to make Balkanfever... please remove your highly offensive link within 48 hours or I will take the issue up with the Wikipeida's editorial board (as well as your general pattern of anti-Greek Macedonian behavior). 209.161.227.67 (talk) 15:17, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

If you can't also see the "Greater Greece" in the map, then something is seriously wrong with you. I reject your claim of intelligence and/or seriousness and will kindly tell you to leave me alone. Funny how you claim to support the "interim accord", yet it states that Greece should not veto the Republic of Macedonia's entrance into international organisations. You are a hypocrite (that's a Greek word, so I know you understand it). There is nothing more to say. Go away. BalkanFever 23:09, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Sorry I forgot to answer to your request earlier. The 209.* anon (who is User:Crossthets) has been warned off and will hopefully keep out now. We don't usually semi-protect talk pages without some rather serious reason. You think it'll be okay now? Cheers, --Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:13, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah it should be fine. BalkanFever 07:03, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

God Damn it, there's another ANi about you!

Here it is you fool. Stop harassing and conspiring against people! Beam 01:52, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, my propaganda seems to pissing a few people off. Oh well. BalkanFucker 07:17, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Giorgos

You probably misunderstood my comment. Some more info from the survey by Vidoeski in Koneski's book, would probably settle this map issue and provide additional information on Macedonian dialectology. I am sure that FP's version of the Vidoeski map, is as accurate as it can get--Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 11:11, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, Macedonian dialectology is not the most discussed subject, as you can gather. Unsurprisingly, the majority of linguists interested are the ones from the Republic of Macedonia, and not Greeks (too much politics, you know how it is). I don't think the map issue will ever be settled, since there will always be randoms that come across it and get offended or something. Or just people that believe any RoM source is ipso facto unreliable. BalkanFever 11:31, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

You are unfortunately right on your remarks, but I am genuinely interested. With all these tension and constant bickering it becomes a trully impossible task to form an opinion. Therefore every piece of information is welcome as far as I' m concerned. I am well aware of the grievances from both sides. I think that the more we learn about the issues involved in this incredible conflict the better we understand.--Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 11:41, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

So many issues, so little interest (I mean on the part of others) For more on linguistics, try: The situation of the Macedonian language in Greece: sociolinguistic analysis by Roland Schmeiger and Greece and European Turkey: From Religious to Linguistic Identity by Peter Trudgill. BalkanFever 11:53, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip. I 've read both ages ago. Btw I think the correct spelling is "Schmieger" I've seen you mispelling it before and I am an expert in wreaking spelling havoc myself--Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 12:07, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

I'll keep that in mind. Chucked it in the spell-check just to make sure. BalkanFever 12:28, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Wow

In every article about FYROM for me Republic of Macedonia for you i can see you in the contributors and more i've read your page and i mean wow.Keep up the good work cause i've learned a lot from Fyrom related articles that i simply did't knew.

Don't get me wrong about FYROM i don't want to offend or insult you.TheJudge0791 (talk) 18:07, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Umm, thanks, I guess. BalkanFever 04:08, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Well, you just proved my point.--Dimorsitanos (talk) 04:18, 27 July 2008 (UTC)