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Japan location articles-maps

Right now on the Japanese location articles, the maps just show the location of the city or village or ward in relation to the prefecture. It would be more useful to include a small map of Japan with the area highlighted, just as the map of Colorado Springs, Colorado includes a location of Colorado within the United States. Please can we modify the infobox to include this somehow? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 14:24, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

ps-Happy Tanabata! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 14:25, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm not seeing a map of the United States in that article. There's a map of Colorado, then a map of the individual county, but no US map. ···日本穣 00:36, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Although it's not the nation and city, it does have a double map: the map on the right shows Colorado Springs within the county, and the smaller map on the left shows the county within the state. Analogously, one could show a double map for municipalities in Japan: the first showing the municipality within the prefecture and the second showing the prefecture within a larger context (we might consider region, island and nation: perhaps one is suitable).

PS I hope you had a good Tanabata. There was a light-down event planned but since it was cloudy I don't think the stars were visible locally. Fg2 (talk) 10:02, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay, it must have been removed, a good example is Mawlamyine within Burma. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 15:34, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Conversions

{{Convert}} supports tsubo.

• e.g. Template:Xpd

Is there any interest in adding other Japanese units of measurement? JIMp _talk·cont 00:20, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

That's kinda cool. Thanks for letting us know. ···日本穣 01:54, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

No problem. Also you can convert from tsubo to square metres & square feet

• e.g. Template:Xpd

... or to tsubo or to tsubo and square feet.

• e.g. Template:Xpd and
• Template:Xpd

If there are other conversions/combinations that might be useful, feel free to bring it up on Template talk:Convert. JIMp _talk·cont 07:35, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Hmm...seems to have choked and died. The template is throwing up weird errors. ···日本穣 05:56, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Akihiko Hirata

Is anyone here familiar with this guy? The article states that he is Korean, but while he may have been born there I'm not too sure. The bio on IMDb tends to suggest that he was Japanese (his birth name, etc.), but I can't find much else of substance. If anyone knows anything or can find any useful information, it would be appreciated. Regards. PC78 (talk) 01:56, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

I located an article in the Japanese Misplaced Pages and placed a link to it in the article. The Japanese Misplaced Pages states that he was ethnically Japanese, not Korean. Also that he was born in Seoul. The Japanese Misplaced Pages includes biographical information and an extensive list of film and other appearances. Fg2 (talk) 03:41, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Cheers! I've changed the article accordingly. PC78 (talk) 03:52, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

SamuraiWiki again

Back in April there was much todo about the addition of wodges of stuff from "SamuraiWiki". Briefly, one editor was keen to do it but couldn't provide any coherent reasoning for it. Eventually he stopped.

Now he's back.

Some of this stuff has a certain unintended charm -- I like the way that, receiving bad news, Endō Motonobu initially committed suicide -- but this is supposed to be an encyclopedia, and (WP:SOURCE concerns aside) neither a mirror of some other encyclopedia nor Uncyclopedia. Bring your mops and buckets, there's work to be done. -- Hoary (talk) 10:43, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

EA has been blocked indefinitely (and not by me). -- Hoary (talk) 00:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

He was previously blocked indefinitely under the name User:Darin Fidika. See, for example, this version of the user page. That user name now redirects to User:Tathagata Buddha. So we can expect him to return, perhaps with a new name. Fg2 (talk) 01:16, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Issues of his return aside, what can or ought to be done about the articles? -Tadakuni (talk) 01:39, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

If Fidika were to return, his inimitable prose style would make him instantly recognizable. ¶ Tag for speedy deletion anything that's largely plagiarized from his favorite site (which is neither GFDL nor PD), and send the rest to AfD as not worth the effort to fix, without prejudicing the fate of any later, unrelated attempts to make well-sourced, lucid articles on the same topics. -- Hoary (talk) 01:57, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Absolutely true. I think everyone who's ever dealt with him can immediately recognize him by now. Also, as far as the articles go, this may be of help, as he listed them all very nicely. Is tagging for deletion an admin's job, or can anyone do that? -Tadakuni (talk) 02:00, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Anybody may tag an article (or anything else) with a template for speedy deletion or its alternatives. You're as free to do it as anybody else. But as you seem rather unfamiliar with this stuff, better to bone up on the policies first, then the methods -- for both, see Template:Deletiontools -- and only when you're certain, start off, which you should do slowly. If your template additions are persuasive, feel free to speed up. But I'd hold off a few hours before starting, to give other people who (unlike me) are familiar with the subject matter time to express their opinions on EA's product. ¶ If you were to send a large number of similar articles off to AfD, I'd strongly suggest taking particular care over the nomination statement, which might have to be longer than average. Readers are impatient with statements that are long and turgid; but I've found that they do take the time to digest longish statements that are carefully organized and phrased, and that they actually appreciate them. (I humbly submit this for your delectation.) -- Hoary (talk) 03:03, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for explaining, and offering that rather fascinating (and indeed delectable) example. I agree with you, I'll wait for at least a few hours and see what others have to say here. -Tadakuni (talk) 03:11, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

I've been glancing at his articles, and I see a consistent pattern when it comes to Samurai Wiki and Samurai Archives (it should be borne in mind that a good deal of the content on Samurai Archives seems to be duplicated on the Samurai Wiki)-- if the words are not directly copied, the facts from SA/SW are reproduced, but rephrased into EA's usual roundabout, confusing prose. So he's just duplicating the data and changing the words around. I don't know if this counts as plagiarism/Copyright violation or whatever, but I was under the impression that even if you copy a block of text and change the words around, it's still a form of plagiarism. (**Warning-- Sarcasm ahead**) In a way I feel like if he'd simply copied the text for all of the articles it'd be a bit of a better situation for the readers (though still inexcusable), because the writers at SA, unlike EA, know how to write coherently. -Tadakuni (talk) 02:07, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Can't argue with any of that. -- Hoary (talk) 03:03, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Changes to prefecture information box

Some changes have affected Template:Infobox Prefecture Japan. If you're interested in discussing these changes, please visit Template talk:Infobox Prefecture Japan#Recent changes ("romaji" parameter, etc.). Fg2 (talk) 08:09, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Hawayo Takata

Might someone please address Aaxxll's repeated removal of all citations, references, and footnotes from the Hawayo Takata article? Thanks! - House of Scandal (talk) 03:45, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Ritsumeikan

The only source for one section of "Ritsumeikan University" is something by Debito Arudou. Is this a good source? Tama1988 (talk) 08:06, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

A blog (and this seems to be a blog) is not a good source, unless the person is a recognized authority on the subject, according to Misplaced Pages:External links#Links normally to be avoided #11. Does anyone have any information about his being a recognized authority? Fg2 (talk) 08:16, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Arudou is a regular columnist for the Japan Times with columns appearing about twice a month. His subject of expertise that he almost always writes about in that newspaper is discrimination against foreigners in Japan. So, I'd say that his blog is appropriate to use for that section on that university since he is a recognized authority on the subject of unfair treatment of foreigners in Japan. Cla68 (talk) 08:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

I dunno... Arudo is also well known for blowing stuff ridiculously out of proportions. The controversy in question is (most probably) real enough, but I'd rather see some other sources backing up the numbers and reasons stated than go solely by Arudo's figures... TomorrowTime (talk) 09:04, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

If he published it in the Japan Times, that gives it more credibility. If he published it in a blog but not in the newspaper, that's another matter. The JT is a good place to look for published sources. Fg2 (talk) 10:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

I just searched around JT and couldn't find where Arudou or anyone else had discussed any unfair labor practices at Ritsumeikan. Cla68 (talk) 23:36, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

I found a Japan Times article dated 2005, (the ref to which I added to Ritsumeikan). I couldn't find anything else. It does look problematic, I agree, if all we can find is a single source, if prominent one. -- Taku (talk) 00:10, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Gaijin

There is an longstanding and ever ongoing dispute (and now request for comment) about neutral point of view and WP:LEAD, original research etc, on this page. Fresh opinions and editors would be welcome.--Slp1 (talk) 02:35, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

disposal of the œuvre of Exiled Ambition

User:Exiled Ambition -- see earlier talk about SamuraiWiki, etc -- has been exiled indefinitely. Now what to do?

A few hours ago, Tadakuni slapped a copyvio template on a recent creation of EA's, Anazawa Nobunari. Looking at it, I didn't think it was a copyright violation. Instead, it was a very free paraphrase. The freer the paraphrase, of course the more there was of EA-speak and the further it descended into incomprehensibility.

For utter incomprehensibility, one can have an article speedied via Template:Db-g1. The trouble is that this is worded very tightly, to exclude bad writing and stuff that's not in English. (I think it's for "articles" reading "asdfasdfasdf asdfasdfasdf" etc., or perhaps articles that actually have understandable content such as "Skool sux!") EA's utterances aren't quite right.

EA's creations of this kind are sourced to SamuraiWiki (though they often additionally/alternatively cite whatever source the SamuraiWiki article cites). Some of these articles are about people who seem notable (even to me); others are about people whose notability seems very minor (though I'm not qualified to judge).

I was bold and speedily deleted this particular article. This was not intended to express any view on the article-worthiness of Anazawa Nobunari, merely my view that the article as it existed was unsalvagable rubbish.

Comments please. -- Hoary (talk) 03:40, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

I think at this juncture it might be wise of me to step back and let others take care of this. It's been quite an interesting few days, but the last thing I want to do is let my zeal get the better of me. Perhaps a short break is even in order. -Tadakuni (talk) 03:49, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

No, no. You slapped a copyvio template on something that I didn't think was a copyvio. If you goofed -- and somebody else might conclude that you didn't, and that instead I did -- then you goofed once. And a lesser goof (if a goof at all) than many that I've made in my time. Stick around! ¶ But now, back to the question. I'd like to hear from Nihonjoe and others. -- Hoary (talk) 03:59, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

While EA embellished it a bit with barely-comprehensible "big words" and unnecessary flowery language, I would say it qualifies as plagiarism, and therefore is a copyright violation. Tadakuni was correct to lay the smackdown on it. ···日本穣 05:15, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Prior to Hoary's post here, I nominated a bunch more of those articles (see here) for copyvio, too. I've been making sure to go to Samurai Wiki and compare SW's entry to EA's. Yes, not all of the articles he created or edited need to be deleted-- I think a good example might be Tsugaru clan, which I heavily edited today. Ultimately I think this may have to be done on a one-by-one basis. -Tadakuni (talk) 05:27, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

The MLA Handbook and the like certainly would call a mere paraphrase (as opposed to an intelligent distillation into a summary) plagiarism. I'd feared that in Misplaced Pages terms it wouldn't be. If it is indeed plagiarism, then of course that simplifies things a lot. If I were the autocrat of WP, I'd say "If in doubt, slap a copyvio template on it". So it's not just me then. Good! -- Hoary (talk) 07:18, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikiproject workgroup on Sino-Japanese-Korean relations

Wikiproject Sino-Japanese-Korean relations

I have proposed a Wikiproject workgroup on Sino-Japanese-Korean relations.

In my opinion, Misplaced Pages topics on Sino-Japanese-Korean topics all too often, and unfortunately, reflect the tense, exaggerated, embittered and often politically nationalistic debates currently prevalent in the popular presses of these three great nations.

In many case, these polemics are immature, propagandistic and unencyclopedic in nature and causes being promoted by unethical editing habits. Japanese-Korean topics appear to be amongst the more problematic topics on the Misplaced Pages.

At the same time, within each nation and academic circles there are moves to create pan-national understanding and document an accurate account of history. It is therefore proposed to establish a Sino-Japanese-Korean workgroup interested in establishing good working relations to improve the academic nature of these articles and encourage normal editing.

For the sakes of honesty and transparency, this pan-national workgroup was sincerely proposed precisely in response to the mode of operation used by many editors

Such wasteful activities as persistent allegations, personal attacks and other distractions from the primary activity of content production and reference checking only discouraging newcomers, less aggressive and, especially, genuine academics from participating on the Misplaced Pages. They undermine the goodwill of the Misplaced Pages.

It is hoped that by bring together authors from across the spectrum who are interested in rising above differences standards, understanding and sensitivity can be improved; just as they are in academia at present.

Your contribution is welcome. My apologies if it is not according to the protocols to make such announcements on other WikiProjects. --Ex-oneatf (talk) 05:37, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Emperor of Mankind

The Emperor of Mankind article is currently under VfD . It has been briefly listed under Japan-related deletions, but has been delisted due to my comment there. The situation is as follows: EoM is apparently an important figurehead in the Warhammer 40000 in-game universe, and it's notability has been contested. The response of a W4K editor has been to add a notion about former Japanese imperial titles, of which EoM is apparently one - so the article is currently in this shape: "EoM is a Japanese imperial title. It is also used in W4K ." I have been asked by an editor to provide insight into whether EoM really is a legitimate Japanese imperial title (not for the purpose of creating a more convincing vehicle for the W4K article, but simply in the hope of straightening out things), but I must admit, I do not know. Can anyone here shed some light on this historical title and its existance? TomorrowTime (talk) 10:42, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Disregard that. The article no longer opens with the Japanese imperial title. Nevertheless, can anyone confirm or deny the actual existance of the title? TomorrowTime (talk) 10:44, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

There's an list of titles at 天皇. See Sections 1.1, 1.2, and 1.3.2. I didn't see anything likely, but someone with more skill might find it. Fg2 (talk) 11:57, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Hm, possibly the closest I could find is the Meiji colloquial 上御一人（かみごいちにん）, but that's not really it, is it... :/ TomorrowTime (talk) 12:38, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Or else, this: 王世子. Since the original source was a book about Shinto and nationalism, and 王世子 was used in Korea, this title could possibly be what was being referred to. Question is, would 王世子 'really' be translated as Emperor of Mankind? —Preceding unsigned comment added by TomorrowTime (talk • contribs) 12:40, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

王世子 apparently meant the Crown Prince, not the Emperor. I don't think there's much reason to translate it as "Emperor of Mankind." Fg2 (talk) 20:48, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Kesen dialect sources

Hi,

Improved sources for the article Kesen dialect were proposed on its talk page.

Can anyone please check them and incorporate them into the article? Thanks. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 12:16, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Combine with Rebun Island and Rebun Town articles

For any who are interested I am proposing to combine the articles for Rebun Town and Rebun Island. Both cover the same geographic area. This would be analog to Hokkaido the island and Hokkaido the prefecture sharing the same article. If you are interested, comment here.imars (talk) 09:20, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Question. If this is to be the rule, what do we do with Taketomi? There is Taketomi the island, and then there is Taketomi the village, spanning several neighbouring islands as well. TomorrowTime (talk) 10:07, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

I would say only where the overlap is complete would combining the articles be an option. Rebun Island and Rebun Town really are one in the same. In the case of Taketomi, the town consists of several islands according to your statement. That would be one article. You can then create individual island articles for each island, assuming they are noteworthy enough, and link to them in the town article.imars (talk) 05:18, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Tokyo 6 Universities

Tokyo 6 Universities seems to be an article about nothing. "Tokyo 6 Universities" looks to me like a literal (and unidiomatic) translation of a Japanese phrase, ja:東京六大学, that's used to cover six universities in (or near) Tokyo that happen to be united in a baseball tournament and that has no other meaning that I know of. The baseball tournament deserves an article to itself and gets one: Tokyo Big6 Baseball League. Maybe the 東京六大学 article says something deep and significant but if so I can't find it. Am I missing something? Tama1988 (talk) 10:11, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I stuck "unreferenced" and "notability" warnings on this. If somebody thinks the article could say something worth saying, all the best with it. Tama1988 (talk) 06:18, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

I think it's very possible this is meant to be an article like Big Three (colleges), which is about the history and social prestige of these universities. The article Ivy League has a section on social aspects of its reputation, although originally "Ivy League" just referred to an athletic conference. --C S (talk) 07:54, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I took out three of the four paragraphs; they're not specifically related to the subject (the title) of the article but are generally about colleges and universities in Tokyo. The material largely duplicates Education in Tokyo#Colleges and universities. Fg2 (talk) 08:24, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Good work. But it's now just a dictionary definition. "OR" tells me that these six are actually no more than six universities that happen to play baseball together. (Nothing else links the six that wouldn't also link other universities.) If this OR is right, then the article can never be more than a dictionary definition. Tama1988 (talk) 09:25, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

If you are truly tapped into Japanese society and still think it's just a baseball conference, then I would believe you. But this kind of thing takes a lot of integration into the society to understand, beyond just living in Japan for several years. For example, even people that have lived in the U.S. for years may not know of the "Big Three" term or the concept of "HYP". You would have to interact with people in a certain class or be quick on picking up nuances in media. Because of that, I am not so keen to quickly dismiss the merits of this article. --C S (talk) 20:33, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

If a deletion discussion were opened, someone might say college sports leagues can be noteworthy. This one does get mentioned in the nationwide news reports. The history of the baseball league could be developed into an article. (I have no interest in doing so.) Fg2 (talk) 09:49, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Ah, now I see the link you provided to the baseball league. Fg2 (talk) 09:54, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Looking at the remarks on the talk page, there may be a good article on Tokyo/Waseda/Keio analogous to that of the Big Three, but this would require some good sourcing on their historical and cultural status (including sourcing any terms or phrases used to refer to them). I also object to the blanket removal of all the material. There was a claim that most prime ministers graduated from a Tokyo 6 university. That has been removed. This is valuable information. It would be analogous to removing the section on social status from the Ivy League article. If we did that, the reader would think this was simply an athletic conference of 8 universities with no significance beyond that, but that would be false. --C S (talk) 20:27, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Mediawiki Administrator Needed

Hello guys. I apologise for posting this here when it's not directly related to Misplaced Pages. I was wondering if anybody here is or knows an experienced mediawiki administrator who would be willing to help out at Japanwiki (we are also GFDL). I am looking for somebody who knows how to make mediawiki multilingual (i.e. set up a 2nd wiki, i.e. in Chinese and then add the ability to have language links to the left for articles that exist in more than one language, just like wikipedia). If you guys know anybody trustworthy who knows his stuff (unix etc) and would be willing to help please let him know about us or drop me a line on my talk page. Many thanks in advance. Japanwiki Jubeidono (talk) 15:08, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Spread of the printing press needs information about early use of printing press in Japan

The section on East Asia in Spread of the printing press is almost blank, except for a note about the introduction of the printing press to Korea. Does anyone here know when the printing press was first used in Japan, and/or East Asia? Could you have a look at Spread of the printing press and introduce the relevant information? Thanks --lk (talk) 06:49, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Following the ja.wiki article on printing, I came across this name: The Jesuit Mission Press in Japan. According to this: , the printing press was first introduced to Japan in 1590, by Alessandro Valignano, and was used to print Christian missionary material. TomorrowTime (talk) 08:10, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Late Chrysanthemums

This article could use some cleanup. Thanks, Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 07:41, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

A couple of editors have done a little on it. Thanks for pointing us toward it. Fg2 (talk) 05:42, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Villa incognito

I ran across the Villa Incognito article by chance. It's only marginaly linked to Japan, but I thought I'd bring it up nonetheless.

The article's a mess. It's written in a way a high-schooler might write if they wanted to pretend they were literary agents, and judging by the talk page, it has been in that awful state for a long while now. Has anyobody here read the novel and would be willing to completely rewrite the article? TomorrowTime (talk) 18:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I know this isn't helping, but the main author's User page claims that his edits exhibit a professional level of English. Made me chuckle a bit. :) --Torsodog 04:56, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

True, the tone of the article isn't right, at least for Misplaced Pages. But still, it's written by a native English speaker. Many (not all of course) articles written by Japanese-speaking contributors have far more problems, I think. (I try to do my best, though.) -- Taku (talk) 05:40, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

It's exactly the tone of the article that I find fault with - for instance, what does Robbins-esque mean? I mean, to earn the esque suffix you have to be pretty well known as a writer - to the extent that even people unfamiliar with your work know what is meant by esque... Just being written by a native speaker doesn't mean it's written well. TomorrowTime (talk) 07:34, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

I think WikiProject Novels should handle this instead of us. --ざくら木 12:33, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Images and media for deletion/2008 July 31

Two historically significant images are up for deletion, please vote. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 01:20, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Cabinet changes

I posted some changes to the Cabinet in Cabinet of Japan#The Cabinet (August 2008 to present) according to the Cabinet's Japanese page. However, there has been some shuffling of portfolios and I don't have English translations of new offices, especially at the bottom of the list. So I removed some posts and names. If anyone can add them, it would be valuable information. Also, in case I made mistakes, a second look would be worthwhile. Fg2 (talk) 03:10, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

(The English list of ministers has not yet been updated.) Fg2 (talk) 03:13, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Caspian blue / Appletrees on Japan Korean related issues

Hi.

I just wanted to offer you guys a warning about the user Caspian blue who was also Appletrees so you can avoid the stunts she pulled on me. You need to get up to speed on how she works. Regularly keep an eye on her contributions to see who she is reporting you to, attempting to prejudice others against you or lobbying others against you. She is probably doing it via email too.

Look her speaking to checkuser admin Thatcher's page. Look at these diffs to find the discussion. She is receiving information from others about you.

Caspian blue is a Korean editor, some say Korean-American, engaged in removing any content that is critical of Korea even if it is perfectly true and well referenced. She seems to believe she is fighting a Japanese conspiracy to rule the Misplaced Pages organized by a BB called 2Channel.

• To do this, she will attempt to block, removing or prejudicing any editor that challenges her by whatever means she can. She will waste your time by always reverting any edits and she is supported by other Korean or Korean-American editors such as Good friend100 (talk · contribs).

She is engaged in active and prejudicial lobbying of admins. I can only say, the dishonesty involved is neurotic in scale and I have the liberty to say because she was successful in her efforts to ban me after I requested meditation with her over the issue.

Good faith is not enough. You need to watch your back. You cannot talk logic and reason to her. It is a waste of time. You cannot engage with her. She will waste your time and then use it against you. Especially if you appeal to her by honesty. Whatever you do, she will come up with some bogus piece of policy to argue against. it is hardly even worth attempting to discuss policy, because all she is doing is manipulating it to suit her agenda.

She seems to spend hours researching her attacks on individuals.

• Caspian blue (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
• Appletrees (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

Hopefully at some point the admins will wake up to this but suspect there are admins that support her. Frankly, all she is doing is confirming the negative racial stereotypes other have of Korean. Her mission is entirely counterproductive.

If accounts (Logitech95, Ex-oneatf, Jjok, Carl Daniels etc ... I am posting this around) are not the same individuals, you should speak to Thatcher about this and ask him why he is providing such information on an informal basis to such an account.

I cannot edit on his page, so others ask him to justify his claims.

-- Lucyintheskywithdada