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::By the way, I will also have to put a friendly warning on your page regarding the conflict of interest so you know about it, just in case you don't find your way here and read this. ] (]) 19:45, 3 August 2008 (UTC) ::By the way, I will also have to put a friendly warning on your page regarding the conflict of interest so you know about it, just in case you don't find your way here and read this. ] (]) 19:45, 3 August 2008 (UTC)


=Batman for NES and Genesis== ==Batman for NES and Genesis==


I hate to ask this, but what are you doing to my articles...? (] (]) 20:57, 3 August 2008 (UTC)) I hate to ask this, but what are you doing to my articles...? (] (]) 20:57, 3 August 2008 (UTC))
:First, I am including the two articles in a merger proposal, which will merge several articles into ]. Second, I removed the Gameplay sections in both articles because all it describes are information which can be found in a game guide (please read ]). Adding game guide information is not appropriate for Misplaced Pages standards.
:If you want to discuss the merger, then please discuss it at the designated discussion section for the merger proposal. (It has been up for five months without any closure, so I am closing it.) ] (]) 21:00, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

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June 2008

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Put your knowledge to good use

Join us over at StrategyWiki. I just completed the guide for Zanac, and I noticed that you had made some edits to the article recently. I have fleshed out a walkthrough for all 12 areas, and would appreciate your amendments or corrections. I am User:Procyon on there, so hit me up when you've had a chance to review the guide. Thanks. Plotor (talk) 02:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

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Your recent mass addition of tags

During your robot style additions of tags to articles, in a great deal of the articles you added several "this section" tags to the same article. In situations like that (where the bulk of the article has no references period), all that is needed is a single tag at the top of the page:

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Citations of the type you added are meant only for pages that include references for a majority of the page but have individual sections missing references. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 22:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Hard work recognized

The Original Barnstar
Your hard work editing various video game articles has earned you this Barnstar. Keep up the good work!

Lumaga (talk) 02:59, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Operation COOKIE MONSTER

In support of Operation COOKIE MONSTER (OCM) I'm presenting WikiCookies in appreciation for military service to the United States. Happy Independence Day! Ndunruh (talk) 04:05, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

AfD

Sorry. I just don't like these AfDs, which try to delete commercially released games. - A Link to the Past (talk) 17:55, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

The WPVG Newsletter (July 2008)

The Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Video games Newsletter

The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter
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Project At a Glance

As of 2008-07-08, the project has:

Changes to Featured and Good articles, lists, and topics

Promoted FA/FL:

Crackdown, Myst III: Exile, List of Sega 32X games, List on songs in Guitar Hero: Rocks the 80s, List of WWE SmackDown video game titles

Topic:

Video game consoles (seventh generation)

Demoted FA/FL:

3D Monster Maze

Demoted FT:

Final Fantasy titles

Promoted GA:

Alleyway, Chrono Resurrection, Club Penguin, Conan (2007 video game), Day of Defeat: Source, Final Fantasy VII (Famicom), King Arthur & the Knights of Justice (video game), Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time, Mario Power Tennis, Midtown Madness, Planetarian: Chiisana Hoshi no Yume, Pokémon Gold and Silver, Pokémon Red and Blue, Super Smash Bros., The World Ends with You, Victorious Boxers: Ippo's Road to Glory, WWE SmackDown (video game series), Ayu Tsukimiya, Music of the Final Fantasy Tactics series, Nobuo Uematsu, Halo: The Fall of Reach, Halo Original Soundtrack, Jack Thompson (attorney), Key (company), The Myst Reader

Demoted GA:

World of Warcraft

News

There were 236 new articles in June 2008

Current proposals and discussions

  • Well, gee, thanks 1up!
    1UP.com has recently changed their rating scale. A list of affected articles can be found here. See discussion for details.
    • About 32% of the articles on the list have been checked and updated.
  • Inactive project cleanup
    Proposal to consolidate inactive projects and taskforces. Project page can be found here.
    • Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Massively multiplayer online games redirected to WP:VG. See MfD.
      • MU* taskforce moved to page under WP:VG. See new MU* task force page.
      • Neopets and RuneScape taskforces deleted. See MfD.
      • All talk pages moved to archives under WT:VG
    • Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Dynasty Warriors deleted.
Feature: Writing the Reception

In many video game articles, the Reception section is the last main section of prose. As its name suggests, within the section you should summarize the critical reaction to the game. The section should provide a high-level overview of what the critics liked and didn’t like about the game; it is a summary, not a repetition of what publications thought. Therefore, don’t put in excessive, long winded quotes or have a paragraph detailing IGN’s thoughts on the game. To prevent cluttering of the prose with scores, reviews table such as {{VG Reviews}} can be used to organize this kind of information.

A good way to lead off the section is a by-the-numbers or at a glance snapshot of the game’s reception; you can use aggregate scores to suggest an overall critical response to the game, and can provide sales figures (if you have them) for the game’s release. Commonly, the rest of the reception is broken into positive and negative paragraphs. Entirely separate ‘Praise’ and ‘Controversy’ or ‘Negative comments’ or the like are strongly discouraged as troll magnets. If the game has won any awards, then listing them at the bottom of the reception section is an option.

Other things to remember:

  • Don’t list every single review in the reviews table; likewise, don’t mention every award the game has ever gotten.
  • Generally, talk about what the reviewers say rather than speaking for them; for example, “Reviewer X of Publication Y took issue with elements of the game such as X, Y, and Z” instead of “Review X said that “I took issue with elements of the game such as X, Y, and Z.” If a reviewer has a good comment which sums up the positive/negative/overall reaction, or a particular sentiment common in many reviews, it might be more appropriate to use.
  • If adding sales data, make sure to provide context; did it sell those 4.2 million units within three months of release or three years? If possible, break down the sales by region; did the Japanese like the game, but Americans not buy it?
  • Use reviews whose scores are outliers from the average ratings to find key points that were liked or disliked about a game. If all reviews except for one average around a 9 out of 10, and the one is a 7 out of 10, there is probably some clear negative points to be found in it; the same works with very positive reviews.
  • Perhaps most importantly, give proper weight and keep a neutral point of view. If the game received mostly negative scores, having three paragraphs on positive aspects and glossing over the bad parts in a sentence or two conveys the wrong impression to readers.
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Project Nintendo?

I'm not in project nintendo, so I don't really care one way or another what talk pages get tagged with that. But I am a little confused on some of your recent edits for that. Why was Joust added to project Nintendo today but you just took off Klax? Neither one is a Nintendo property, but both were released for the NES as Nintendo licencees. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 19:29, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Joust was published on the NES by HAL Laboratory, which is a 2nd party developer of Nintendo. Hence, they would be part of that WikiProject. Same thing applies with Star Gate (Defender 2).
Klax, on the other hand, was published by Atari Games for other consoles and by Tengen for the NES; neither are 1st or 2nd party developer of Nintendo. And by the WikiProject guidelines, it cannot be considered a part of the WikiProject.
The requirements of inclusion of a game into WikiProject Nintendo is listed on its front page as follows: Also, please note that "game" articles are only included in this WikiProject if they are published by Nintendo. (1st and 2nd party.) A lot of NES game articles on Misplaced Pages have been incorrectly designated as such, and while I'm reworking and expanding the List of Nintendo Entertainment System games, at the same time I'm making small such corrections such as adding/removing the appropriate templates.
Hope that clears things up. Cheers! MuZemike (talk) 19:37, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

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Concerning the "warning" template on my user page.

I think you should reconsider when yo are putting warning templates on the pages of users were contributing to Misplaced Pages long time before you started nex time. And I do also welcome you on Misplaced Pages, and I am glad you are enjoying your stay. Platyna (talk) 16:08, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

I really thought that labelling the rest of us as barnstar and template people was meant to be an insult, as well as us screaming out loud and trying to challenge credibility of other persons by attaching to their names edit counters and SPA templates to suggest they are sockpuppets. I thought that was definitely below the belt. Being here longer than us does not give you a free pass to hurl out such insults or to place yourself on a higher perch than the rest of us.
With that being said, it's only a Level 1 warning — I got one, too; it's not a big deal.
We're also trying not to degrade your voice or anything like that. We're not going after you like it's a personal crusade. Remember that I voted Speedy keep solely because of the way the article was nominated, which was 45 minutes after creation by a bot. Just keep the confrontiveness down. That's all. MuZemike (talk) 17:35, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
I do appreciate the "speedy keep" vote, however what I told it wasn't mean to be an insult, but a honest description of the phenomena occuring on the Misplaced Pages what I am finding annoying. And maybe for you it isn't big deal, but I don't like being smashed with institutional forms of punishment.Platyna (talk) 10:11, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

WP:GAMEGUIDE

Hey. I got an "orphaned image" notification for an image you removed, and checked your contributions history. So thanks for your hard work in tagging and assessing articles, and it's particularly good to see that you've kept a healthy balance by also editing articles and addressing the concerns brought up by others. Editors who dedicate themselves completely to the rules, discussion or other non-article-improving activity tend to become... stressed. Now -- *chased off the computer he's on, let me get back to you :/ * --Kizor 05:26, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I'm not trying to step over others here. But I did put your screenshot back in (now that I have looked at the article again), but in place of the title screen screenshot, which I do not think is going to be very useful of an image now. MuZemike (talk) 07:10, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

That Drawn-out AfD...

My advice—don't let attitude or circumstances play into your decision. Behaving rudely or nicely has no impact whatsoever on Misplaced Pages:Notability or Misplaced Pages:Verifiability. Articles stand on their own merit, not that of the editors. The sweetest talk will not save a bad article, and the rudest talk cannot destroy a good article. My other piece of advice—when you're engaged in a conflict, always assess how you feel after you've typed something. If you feel calm, submit it. If you're angry, close the window and walk away. If you were about to type something bad, you'll be glad you didn't send it. If you were about to type something good, you'll be more well-written and present a stronger argument when you come back. I like to think I have a reputation for keeping a level head, and that's one of my primary methods for maintaining that. I don't know if you were angry at the time, but I feel it's good advice in any event. I can't tell you how many times I've typed up a couple of paragraphs and promptly thrown them away. Pagrashtak 18:35, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey...

...I wasn't biting you; sorry if it appeared that way. I have been trying gently to convince the main editor that the subject just isn't notable but I'm not getting through. I guess I should have put my comment up one line but I was hoping to kind of tag along after yours to kind of show that there are more people who know how things work. I was really directing elsewhere.  Frank  |  talk  21:32, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. MuZemike (talk) 21:36, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Xenophobe References

Hiya,

I am the one who has contributed most heavily to the Xenophobe (and Space Lords) pages. Sadly, there are no official write-ups out there that go into the detail that mine does. My reference is my own experience playing the game and my very accurate memory for the details of those games that I spent many hundreds of hours (absolutely no exaggeration) playing. Um, that's hundreds of hours *each*. I was a bit obsessive about video games. Okay, scratch that. I *am* a bit obsessive about them.

I really don't know how to answer your... Hm. Not even sure what to call it... Evaluation? Of the entry. If you know of any official write-ups of the arcade game that are not strictly concerning the home version (plenty of those out there) or are not copyrighted, I'd be delighted to hear it. But otherwise, we're going with my own personal memory and experiences to furnish the facts about the game. And please believe me when I say that those facts are 100% correct.

Any advice? I'd hate to see all that work I put into that page get flushed just because I am not a Misplaced Pages-recognized "reference." Deejaye6 (talk) 04:07, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

I myself have heard of this game outside of the NES release, so it cannot be that difficult.
For gameplay, for instance, describe briefly how Xenophobe is played, but referencing only from the game's instruction manual (it must come from the the designer or publisher of the game) when at all possible. Include just enough information that the reader can understand how the game is played. (This is normally the most difficult part of the article; even I have a tough time doing this with some articles sometimes.)
For the development and reception of Xenophobe, that's when you want to include verifiable, third-party resources to back every single item that is claimed in these sections.
All of this can be found in due time; I would not worry about this article being deleted anytime soon at all. This article surely has enough right now to be notable. However, it definitely needs outside sources in order to make sure it stays that way. MuZemike (talk) 08:31, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your welcome

Didn't see it till today. Added something to the SEMO dispute page. kind of serves as a closing statement. thanks for spending so much time doing your job. Andrelim1 (talk) 03:45, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Regarding platforms in infobox

Regarding the your comment in your edit summary on Paperboy, actually its very clear that Platform(s) is for the launch platform. If you look, the infobox also includes other information only relative to the launch platform - modes, input methods, cabinet, display. Likewise the entire article, sans the ports section, is specifically about the arcade platform (the launch platform). If it were a generic infobox and an article discussing a brand series, I'd agree. However, that's not the case with the box or context of most game articles. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 14:08, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Softek (merger with article 'EDGE Games')

Might be a good idea, but if this is done then all searches for 'Softek', 'Softek International' and 'Softek International Ltd' would need to be redirected to EDGE Games as these are the three names by which Softek is commonly known and will be searched for within Misplaced Pages. I thus do not think it would be a good idea to do the merge unless all three search terms get redirected (not just 'Softek'). —Preceding unsigned comment added by MuZemike (talkcontribs) 17:58, Jul 30, 2008

Well, I dont think that upon merger the Softek entry should be cut and paste into the EDGE Games entry as the same information is already in there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.81.85.4 (talk) 18:07, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the Barnstar!

It has been great working on The Guardian Legend with another editor who is passionate and knowledgeable regarding the subject. In fact, your initial cleanup on the article is what convinced me that it was worth expanding. The result so far has been well worth it and its future looks promising. Rg998 (talk) 06:33, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:CityConnectionNESBoxart.jpg)

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First party sources?

Excuse me, but where did you get the idea that Casino (video game) uses primary sources? None of the websites cited are ran by Atari. --harej 00:35, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

They need to be reliable; the two sites referenced are not. See WP:VG/S for video game sites which are considered reliable. MuZemike (talk) 19:32, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Orion's Belt Game Page

Hello,

I just noticed that you marked the Orion's Belt article for review regarding "notability" and "unreferenced". I created the article and I'm one of the developers. I would like to know what may I do to improve the quality of the article.

In your comments you specified:

  • no sources cited
  • notability is questioned

May I have some pointers on how to address these issues? Or what do I need to supply?

Thank you. Donbonifacio (talk) 13:59, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

First off, I would take extra caution in editing the article as well as even deciding if you should, because you have a conflict of interest with the article. This can make things problematic in editing an article of a game which you have vested interest. Please carefully read WP:COI regarding what you should do regarding this article.
Second, you can simply kill two birds with one stone to remedy the notability problem. What Maramusine said on your talk page regarding the article's deletion a year ago still remains true now. You must find verifiable, third-party sources and cite them in the article to establish its notability. For references, I would also read WP:V, WP:GNG, and WP:VG/S; the latter is a list of sites who are known to provide reliable sources. If you can find such sources, then the article has a good start.
Of course, the last thing I want to see is articles get deleted, so hopefully such reliable sources can be found. Thank you, MuZemike (talk) 19:43, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
By the way, I will also have to put a friendly warning on your page regarding the conflict of interest so you know about it, just in case you don't find your way here and read this. MuZemike (talk) 19:45, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Batman for NES and Genesis

I hate to ask this, but what are you doing to my articles...? (LonerXL (talk) 20:57, 3 August 2008 (UTC))

First, I am including the two articles in a merger proposal, which will merge several articles into Batman computer and video games. Second, I removed the Gameplay sections in both articles because all it describes are information which can be found in a game guide (please read WP:NOTGUIDE). Adding game guide information is not appropriate for Misplaced Pages standards.
If you want to discuss the merger, then please discuss it at the designated discussion section for the merger proposal. (It has been up for five months without any closure, so I am closing it.) MuZemike (talk) 21:00, 3 August 2008 (UTC)