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Article: Zionist Occupation Government
Excuse me, but i'm going to politely ask you to refrain from removing my post on the article pertaining to ZOG. This is a 'free' wikipedia, and you are not entitled to promote racism.
I am a reliable source. The post IS from a neutral posture. I am offended as the article is insinuating that I am a racist, which I am not.
If you do not like the format by which it is written, I highly suggest, as a mature, professional administrator, that you find a format to use and a place to put the text. This has also been mentioned in the discussions page by another editor, to be sure.
Edit: The references will be found and forwarded to you.
Thank you,
Desol333 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Desol333 (talk • contribs) 03:07, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
What is your problem? Why do keep deleting my posts in discussions on ZOG?
I thought the discussion section was open to 'free discussion'?
--Desol333 (talk) 06:01, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
They were most certainly NOT rants. Especially after the fact that we had discussed certain rules as per what wikipedia considers legitimate information? So, i was being extra careful...and thought i would take my 'heart-felt' concerns regarding these matters(israel) into discussion.
Deleted again. Delete delete...undo undo...sheesh. Wow. Admins should have control over referenced pages...but surely NOT over discussion?
Why bother trying to 'discuss' anything of a positive, controversial nature, when my right to free speech is even being shunned? 'Discussion' should be free here...as long as it isn't beligerant, racist or foul.
Desol333 (talk) 23:58, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
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On 13 August, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Beth Israel Congregation (Jackson, Mississippi), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
--Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:34, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
...and you can see here that there is a concern about too much US material on DYK and I can see by your nom that you are one of the perpetrators, therefore some balance needs to be struck...some australian synagogues may need articles written about them (these would be the most notable ones lacking currently) :) Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:52, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Temple Israel article
Thanks for your help organizing the Temple Israel article!WacoJacko (talk) 04:03, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- By the way, I just wanted to compliment you on the quality of the other Synagogue articles you've written.WacoJacko (talk) 04:08, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- You are welcome about the note. The articles are at risk of being deleted? What can be done to try and stop that? I obviously feel they should stay as well. I don't know what I could do, but if there is ever anything I can do to help stop them from being deleted, I would be happy to do it.WacoJacko (talk) 05:50, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
The Jewish Internet Defense Force
Hi Jayjg,
Just wondering if you could take a glance at when you get time. I think I've undone most of the damage CJCurrie did to it but it perhaps needs watching. Here are the diff of the edits they show referenced material being wiped (again sources I wrote or commented in - note that this is the same guy who removed all references to Zionism On The Web from Misplaced Pages without concensus and after discussion).
In this case the remove information described a Facebook group as antisemitic. He tried to make out that the claim the Facebook group is antisemitic was only the opinion of the JIDF (the topic of the article) by wiping supporting information. He then proceeded to add a "critisism" section which was entirely based on giving space to the Facebook group owners and sourced it directly to the Facebook group. This consistutes original research, and even then it only given the opinion of the group admins - which is about as far from a reliable source as one can get on the question of whether the group is antisemitic or not. All up I see the activity as both an attack me (again removing material related to my work from Misplaced Pages) and a PR job to defend anti-Israel material which in this case is also antisemitic. This is concerning. I've written to him and asked him not to stalk me or remove references to my work, but I doubt that will be effective. Anyway, that is a seperate issue from the article itself. On the plus side I found more RS stating the group is antisemitic... though these were all based on the original research I published and presented at the MFA's Global Forum.
I'm going to drop you an e-mail as well as I have two papers in for review that you may find interesting and am workign on a third you may be interested in reviewing before I submit it for academic peer review.
Keep well, and check your mail :) Oboler (talk) 14:57, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- Thought you may like to see this, CJCurrie has opened a discussion accusing JIDF of conspiracy and drawing reference to CAMERA. You get a mention too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oboler (talk • contribs) 07:23, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- Hi Jayjg, the article is now nominated for deletion and the process itself seems politically motivated, please see my comments here also if you feel any of those comments are out of line... please let me know? Oboler (talk) 07:26, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- Hi, following your yello badge comment someone has removed the Jpost op-ed reference, the JEwish Week reference and the academic report. They did this by claiming that "group had previously been explored and described as antisemitic in a report as well as in the press." was invalid as one reference in the press was an op-ed. Given the statement said "in the press" not "by the press" I think the original was actually the best wording possible. In any case removing all three sources when the users other comments on talk suggest that they actually disagree with calling the group antisemitic (contradicting the published research based on "I don't like it"). I've aksed puttyschool to take a look as well as while we approach the article form different directions I think this was one point we had reached agreement on. Oboler (talk) 14:23, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
My RfA
Jayjg, thank you for your contribution to the discussion at my recent RfA. If ever you have any concerns about my actions, adminly or otherwise, don't hesitate to let me know. Best wishes, Paul Erik 17:01, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Photos
Every time I see your user name, I think in my head "Jay Jiggy". Here you go:
I'll try to get the other ones you want at some point.--David Shankbone 01:46, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Me and User:Ceedjee
Hi Jayjg. I've been having some difficulties with Ceedjee (and him with me, I assume). See here He suggested you as a mediator, and I am fine with that, if you have time. Thanks... IronDuke 00:45, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- Jay, we seem to be at an impasse. If you could swing by... IronDuke 14:45, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
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New antisemitism
Since you have been involved in editing the New antisemitism article, I would be interested in having you view of the current discussion concerning Tariq Ali , if you agree with me or not. I would like to find a way to improve the article. Malcolm Schosha (talk) 12:05, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
-- assuming good faith --
thanks!
please delete my page, as i built it out of bits so that i could continue to contribute positively after getting deleted!
- ) that was bad faith sarcasm. seriously, i would appreciate any links to wiki-tutorials on my talk page. go with g-d! 5768altalena (talk) 16:31, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
RfA thank you
— JGHowes - 19 August 2008
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--Gatoclass (talk) 14:17, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
a problem, I am thinking
As far as I know, DreamGuy isn't supposed to be using multiple accounts {1), or be uncivil (2). However, in a recent discussion, he used an anonymous account (previously identified as being in his IP range) to make a personal attack (). I don't want to be the one again reporting DG for again ignoring his ArbCom restrictions. The last time I did so, an admin accused me of baiting. His last block was for 96 hours, less than a week ago. - Arcayne () 07:13, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
- Link to admin accusing you of baiting, please? Were there chipmunks nearby? El_C 07:16, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
- The blocking admin, Arthur Rubin blocked me after I reported DG for 3RR vio, claiming: "Edit warring: Not exactly, 3RR, but baiting, as well" (1). Sorry, El. I thought you might have seen that.
- I am afraid I do not understand the "chipmunks" reference. Could you explain the reference? - Arcayne () 07:30, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
- User_talk:Bishonen#DreamGuy. was yesterday, but I see it's unrelated (see top of that page). El_C 07:33, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
- Ahh, well, that was pretty tangential, wasn't it? :)
- Yes, the two matters are unrelated, and the IP range was pretty clearly almost identical to one that DG has used before (and what prompted the modification of the restrictions) and the language of both the post and the edit summary are pretty outstanding violations of that behavioral parole - and this is quite important: he was responding to comments which neither attacked nor addressed him at all. They were unprovoked. - Arcayne () 07:41, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
tangentially related conversation
- I thought you were talking about me. I was going to ignore it, but I will point out that your comment from above, "I don't want to be the one again reporting DG for again ignoring his ArbCom restrictions.", is disingenuous, this is exactly what you are doing - except you are Forum Shopping. This is the third admin you've gone to in an attempt to remove DG from the DAB page discussion.
- I'll suggest that you take your own , albeit ironic, advice from the post just preceding the diff you listed: The one which states: "Sigh. As a long time user, I am guessing you kow precisely where to submit a request to an admin regarding suspected sock, right? I ask bc it would seem awfully clear that this page doesn't appear to "be that place."
- Forum shopping and multiple unsubstantiated attacks against a single editor strewn across Wiki admin's talk pages, without even placing a note on DG's page, is hardly acceptable. You are baiting, forum shopping and attacking relentlessly a single editor over nothing and have been told so in at least five? separate forums over this single Disambiguation edit. That's my opinion on the topic you've created and placed into discussion here.75.57.160.195 (talk) 14:31, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
- I was talking about you in the post that DG responded to. You have been labeled by others as a stalker and a troll, and have been repeatedly blocked for such. As you continue to engage in the same behavior, you will be called by the title you have earned. Period.
- Secondly, had you done your background work, this isn't forum shopping; Jayyig was the last person to block DG for violation of his ArbCom restrictions; therefore, rather than use my precious time to engage in filing another AN/I that would likely get bumped up to ArbCom Enforcement, I decided to confer with the last person who acted in an official capacity regarding the AE restrictions - apparently you missed that in your sad attempt to poison the well.
- As well, if a DAB discussion creates dissent as to interpretation rules/guidelines, the wisest move is to seek confirmation of those rules and guidelines from those places where they are discussed exclusively. My initial post after the JTR dab was to dab discussion itself, and another editor suggested the conversation continue in yet another page. That you chose to stalk my edits in the first place, and continued to be disruptive and make personal attacks is an entirely separate and unrelated matter. It doesn't escape my notice that you have the capability to retain the same IP; your prior defenses for your two dozen IP addresses was that you had no control over your IP address, and refused to create an account using the flawed idealism of a "public account", Thank you for confirming that you do actually have control over your IP, and can choose when to alter your IP. Your suggestion that I thought DG was socking is entirely incorrect - you are the only person poor-man socking in this matter, and I am on pretty firm ground by accusing you of it. I thought that was made abundantly clear - unless you are denying you are the same anon user as (the other two dozen) before now, which will initiate an SSP on my part.
- Back on topic, DG has banned me from his page, and another editor (a former admin) suggested that even giving him notice or warning of impending rules violations is akin to rubbing salt on the wound. As well, this isn't an official complaint; it is me seeking input from someone who knows DG better than I. Were it to turn official, I would have asked someone to notify DG. As for removing DG from the dab discussion, you are mistaken. Again. DG removes himself from his behavior. No one is posting for him. No one is ordering him to break his own ArbCom restrictions at gunpoint (and stop to consider how long of a bad interaction history someone has to have to be constrained by behavioral restrictions). Frankly, your failure to actually consider the weight of my posts is a knee-jerk reaction to any post I make. Were it not for the fact that you post utter fabrications and misrepresentations, I'd never have a single reason to interact with you. Consider: if you hate me so much, why do you follow me around? You have posted in AN/I 7 or 8 times, and each time have been told to essentially go away. Take the hint, and follow their astute and pointed advice.
- Lastly, until you build up a real edit history under a real account, cease your trolling, stalking and personal attacks, or at the very least bother to think about the things you post (I count at least four factual errors in your post here), you may consider my well of good faith towards you bone dry. Act like a grown-up, and you will be treated as such. Fail to do so, and you haven't any right to complain over the consequences.
- And that is the last I will respond to the anon - unless of course, he/she makes further outlandish claims, in which case, i will simply take the matter elsewhere more official. - Arcayne () 15:11, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
- That's neither a reasonable nor possible interpretation of your comments on the JTR talk page. Your attacks on me are interesting considering that I've never edited the JTR page and have expressed no opinion as to how the link in question should be listed. My only opinion, ever, has been a civil discussion on the Talk page in support of inclusion. This is wholly in agreement with your position also in support of inclusion.. A casual reader might assume we were engaged in an edit war given the tone of your remarks. 75.57.160.195 (talk) 15:23, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
- Same argument already utterly refuted elsewhere. See the title of this section, and kindly go away. - Arcayne () 15:29, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
- "Utterly refuted elsewhere" ? I made three claims, two negative: 1)I never edited the main page. 2)I put forth no suggestions on how the edit should be written. My third claim, that my only opinion was in support of inclusion and that it was wholly in agreement with your position (and that of the entire community) was supported by a citation. Please feel free to support your claim of "Utterly refuted elsewhere" with a citation. Unsupported allegations and specious claims do nothing to further rational discussion.75.57.160.195 (talk) 16:09, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Special Note. My earlier edit was refactored by Arcayne. He has a habit of changing other peoples edits, words, inflection, emphasis, punctuation, and the deletion of sigs and their timestamps, etc as well as substantially altering his own historical edits in an effort to change history and warp the discussion "deck". This behavior was just commented on in the very same DAB discussion at the heart of this:. Here, again, is the edit as it was originally posted, and intended, in this same section on Jayjg's talk page:
- I'll suggest that you take your own , albeit ironic, advice from the post just preceding the diff you listed: The one which states: "Sigh. As a long time user, I am guessing you kow precisely where to submit a request to an admin regarding suspected sock, right? I ask bc it would seem awfully clear that this page doesn't appear to "be that place."
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Baith Israel Anshei Emes
Hi, Jayjg. Thank you for your contributions. I'm glad to know that the article has achieve the FA status. 
Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 02:52, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Cornwell
Thank you so much for your hastily posted warning. I will give it the consideration it deserves. Mamalujo (talk) 00:18, 27 August 2008 (UTC)