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User:Davenbelle + User:Stereotek <-> me

Number of reverts of this page by User: Davenbelle: 6

Number of reverts of this page by User: Stereotek: 6

• RFA Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Coolcat, Davenbelle and Stereotek
• RfA Request for arbitration
• RfC Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Davenbelle and Stereotek

User posts: Template:Fulldatetime

#en.wikipedia.vandalism

Perhaps when you implement your bot to track the wikidefcon and update the template, you could also make it update the channel topic. Then we'd have a #en.wikipedia.warroom :D — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 17:31, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

I plan to do that, sorry for the late response. --Cool Cat 10:45, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

The Turkish identity + Orhan Pamuk

• The Turkish identity + Orhan Pamuk

Laters, Davenbelle 07:28, September 12, 2005 (UTC)

Please explain yourself rather than spamming my userspace with links. --Cool Cat 11:57, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

One of Turkey's biggest obstacles in dealing with the West is the way it chooses to patrol its own history. — Davenbelle 12:08, September 12, 2005 (UTC)

Interesting point of view. Coming from the west that arrests people who suggest Armenian Genocide is false (Swiss incident). I also do not see the importance if this comment warranting my atention on wikipedia. --Cool Cat 12:24, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

also: http://www.twentyvoices.com/ — Davenbelle 10:12, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, but I am not interested in biased websites, spesifically when it comes to the alleged Armenian Genocide. If I want them, I can google for them. And frankly I cannot comprihend your obession with one historic article, it is just an article... --Cool Cat 12:57, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Yggdrasil

Please accept my apologies for thinking that you where just deleting the "Popular culture", when you where in fact moving it, later. When I looked at it the section had just been deleted, and no content had been added to the disambiguation page. That to me seemed very, very strange, so that was why I reverted. I agree with what you have done now though. -- Karl Meier 08:14, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

No biggie, stuff hapens, servers are annoyingly slow anyways. --Cool Cat 08:26, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

This incident changed my view on you. While I don't expect you to trust me or believe me in anyway I think we can coexist. Also please read link below fully and completely on how I interprete this whole incident. Feel free to "talk" to me directly on my talk page. --Cool Cat 11:23, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal is here to help

Hi Cool Cat. I've picked up your complaint at from WP:TINC. Can you give me a brief description of the harassment you've been getting, with diffs, please? Fernando Rizo T/C 18:01, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

• Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Davenbelle and Stereotek
• Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Coolcat, Davenbelle and Stereotek/Evidence
• Also note: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Coolcat, Davenbelle and Stereotek/Proposed decision

Karl Meier (Stereotek) have recently apologised for an error of his, in an assume goof faith enviorment I have taken it as a sincere apology but I dont want to be as gullable as Belldandy as at this point as I cant afford it. This was the first real communication I have ever recieved from him so it is exciting for me. --Cool Cat 19:05, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Davenbelle is plainly beyond reason. Check his past 3000 edits., how often does he revert me or opose me. See very reacent Soultheaster Anatolia Project issue of moving material around. Generaly in distant past Davenbelle and Stereotek have activeley revert ward against me together, sometimes for image sizes. He has a history of making his only edit in days in a vote to opposing me and ironicaly citing WP:POINT --Cool Cat 19:05, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

I do not hold revenge against people all I care is them leaveing me and others on wikipedia alone and stop "policing" policies based on how they interprete them. --Cool Cat 19:05, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Hey there Cool Cat. I've looked into it, and I offer some advice for all involved at User_talk:Fernando_Rizo#Misplaced Pages:Mediation_Cabal_is_here_to_help. Thanks for contacting the Mediation Cabal. Fernando Rizo T/C 20:18, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Pending ArbCom Decision

I would like to suggest that if you want Karl and I to leave you some space and let others monitor your editing per the proposed decision that you agree to immediately cease editing articles related or referring to Turks, Kurds, or Armenians per the same decision. If you will agree to abide by all the proposed remedies starting now, I will too, and I will also leave the Turkish, Kurdsish and Armenian articles to others. I would also ask that you interpret the decision to include the article talk pages. — Davenbelle 02:58, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

I agree with Davenbelles above comment. If you agree to immediately cease editing articles related or referring to Turks, Kurds, or Armenians per ArbCom proposed decision, I will also leave the Turkish, Kurdish and Armenian articles to other editors, and let others monitor your editing, starting now. -- Karl Meier 08:20, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

1. Firstly realise that no one supports your behavior, you are dead wrong. You are in no condition to make demands (Especialy you Davenbelle). Davenbelle already has a restriction on wikipedia in a much greater scale than I am proposed and my case isn't even closed. Kemal Ataturk is a politician and hence politics. Your behavior (esspecialy Davenbelle) alienates users from wikipedia. No arbitrator will support anything that alienates users from wikipedia. While I do try to steer away from contraversial topics (infact at least since the start of the arbcom hearing I haven't made any truly contraversial edits), I will not "leave" the articles just yet.
   • My edits on Kemal Ataturk basicaly reorganised the page. And removal of original research and heavy nationalistic TURKISH pov (no one objected).
   • My edits on Kurdish people esspecialy had comunity support. No one on IRC objects comenting out or complete removal uncited information (or move to talk). Uncited information does not belong to wikipedia, and I have at least an arbcom member (not involved with the case) agreeing with me personaly but does not want to get involved directly.
2. An arbcom meber hearing our case explained me that the first few restrictionsa are not "bad" since they apply to all users anyways. Lets be honest, Davenbelle you interfered with every mediation atempt I made, even on topics not relaeted to Kurds Turks and Armenians such as the Solano guy an Nanking thing. I'd like to remind you what you were revert waring against me on nanking: Image sizes. Both arbitrators I talked to find it ridiclous. Prohibation is a funny thing, no admin would block me for my edit on Kurdish people for example. The onther remedy is bannng me off of articles related to Turks, Kurds, and Armenians, this does not mean that I am blocked from lets say GAP.
3. If you do not leave me alone, you will only provide me fresh evidence and you are welcome to do so. I'd rather wish you leave me alone. I already pulled my finger from the trigger, I suggest you do the same. If you feel I make a bad edit, then discuss matters starting on the article talk page and mention it here (so I know about it as I do not monitor you) or present it directly in Arbcom, USE the community. If you can't get community support realise my edit may not be as bad as you think it is. --Cool Cat 10:53, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Too bad — however the case will close soon enough and you will be expected to abide by the restrictions imposed on you. — Davenbelle 04:43, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Dont be so sure, also its only a temporary restriction for me while is indefunate for you. --Cool Cat 15:40, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

3RR violation

This is to notify you that, having been found in violation of the 3RR violation, you have been blocked for a period of 6 hours, to expire at 2:25 UTC, September 15, 2005. Ral315 20:30, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

k. --Cool Cat 01:23, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

MEDITATION

This question is open to all users. Please feel free to answer. Do you, or have you ever, meditated? I do when, I am stressed or mad. And, yes, it does help.

I have tips for better meditation. Here they are:

1. Find a QUIET place.
2. Adjust the lights and temerature to your liking.
3. You can meditate SILENTLY, or WITH MUSIC.
4. Meditation can occur, ALONE or IN A GROUP.
5. Meditation time should NOT be RESTRICTED.
6. It helps to RECORD, what you SEE, and HEAR, during meditation.
7. Wear UNRESTRICTIVE clothing (LOOSE clothes, NO glasses, and NO shoes).
8. SIT or LAY DOWN.
9. Inhale SLOWLY.
10. RELAX your body.

--— Preceding unsigned comment added by C2 aaron (talk • contribs)

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. Do you mind if I ask what propted the desire to pass such an information? --Cool Cat 14:41, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

I just got that info off of: www.crystalinks.com. Plus, meditation helps me, and I figured it might help someone else. Was it a good article? How much, work do I have to do? Thanks, for the welcome. Well, gotta go!

-C2 aaron 15:04, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. --Cool Cat 15:14, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Was it a good article?

And, why do you act so, secretive? - C2 aaron 15:44, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

I am not sure which article you are referincing to, I do not see you writing one.

I act secretively because I believe in a need to know basis. Since knowing my true identity serves to no purpose on wikipedia, I have no reason to reveal it. Nothing personal. --Cool Cat 15:51, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Marilyn Manson

i think he is stupid. what aboutyou?

--snoop 16:50, 15 September 2005 (UTC)justintmartin

I do not hold views regarding Marilyn Manson's intelligence. --Cool Cat 17:26, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

User:Love Virus­

Do you know this sock? --Lord Voldemort 20:49, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Yes, Love virus is User:MARMOT's creation apply {{MARMOT}} and block. I am watching it very closely. --Cool Cat 20:52, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Well, I'll apply {{MARMOT}}, but you'll have to block him. --Lord Voldemort 20:55, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

I already done that, sadly I lack power to block. I did get him blocked though. --Cool Cat 21:25, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Are you not an admin? Did you used to be? I could have sworn you were. If not, is there a reason why? --Lord Voldemort 21:34, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

It is unlikely I'll ever be an admin. See: Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Coolcat --Cool Cat 21:57, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

People make adminship a big deal... :( --Cool Cat 21:57, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Well, if it makes you feel any better, you have always been nice to me. Sorry to bring up a subject that has obviously caused you some strife. Try not to let a few people get under your skin. Keep up the good work and people may forgive you in the future. Here, have a cupcake. Cheers. --Lord Voldemort 22:08, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, I do not know why some of them are so pissed off (Like blankfaze and dmn)... For now I traget the top of: Misplaced Pages:List of non-admins with high edit counts, once I have 100,000 edits I guess I may be an admin :P --Cool Cat 22:41, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Bot help

Download the pywikipedia bot framework first.

Set up a user-config.py:

# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
############## ACCOUNT SETTINGS ##############
# The family of sites we are working on. wikipedia.py will import
# families/xxx_family.py so if you want to change this variable,
# you need to write such a file.
family = 'wikipedia'
# The language code of the site we're working on.
mylang = 'en'
# The dictionary usernames should contain a username for each site where you
# have a bot account. Please set your usernames by adding such lines to your
# user-config.py:
#
# usernames = 'myGermanUsername'
# usernames = 'myEnglishUsername'
#
#usernames = {}
usernames = 'My Bot Name Here'
############## USER INTERFACE SETTINGS ##############
# the encoding that's used in the user's console, i.e. how strings are encoded
# when they are read by raw_input(). On Windows systems' DOS box, this should
# be 'cp850' ('cp437' for older versions). Linux users might try 'iso-8859-1'
# or 'utf-8'. If this variable is set to None, the default is 'cp850' on
# windows, and iso-8859-1 on other systems
console_encoding = None
# tkinter isn't yet ready
userinterface = 'terminal'
# Should the system bell be ringed if the bot expects user input?
ring_bell = False

--AllyUnion (talk) 23:50, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Let me get back to you on the weekend. --AllyUnion (talk) 04:40, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Some python basics:

import module_name - This imports a module or file into your program, same as #include in C++

Calling functions from this module would be module.function_name

You can read more at www.python.org where they have a tutorial.

The main modules you will be calling are: wikipedia and config

You'll be calling your programs by the following:

python <filename>.py

The extensions for python are typically .py

.pyc files are compiled versions of the .py that the program is using.

In order for your bot to log in, you have to call (only once every so month):

python login.py

In a clean, separate file, you need at the top:

# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
import wikipedia, config

In order to create a Page object in which you will use to get and put pages, you have to something like this:

mypage = wikipedia.Page(wikipedia.getSite(), 'User talk:Cool Cat')

That creates a page object linked to your talk page in the above example.

To get the wiki text from the page, you'd call (following from the previous example):

mypage.get()

You can save that data into a variable if you wish. To put a page you do something like this:

mypage.put('New text to replace old text', 'Fill out the comment field in this field.')

Where "New text" is where you want to replace the existing text, and the second portion is the comment note in the history. Default is something like: "Misplaced Pages python library"

If you want to add to the text, do something like this:

mypage.put(mypage.get() + 'Added text here', 'Bot adding text')

That is all you should need to program your script in Python and get your bot working. I don't believe you need any other function. Oh, also, I made some modifications to wikipedia.py; If you get any errors trying to run the bot, you should apply these changes manually.

In the file wikipedia.py:

def output(text, decoder = None, colors = , newline = True):
    """
    Works like print, but uses the encoding used by the user's console
    (console_encoding in the configuration file) instead of ASCII.
    If decoder is None, text should be a unicode string. Otherwise it
    should be encoded in the given encoding.
    colors is a list of integers, one for each character of text. If a
    list entry is None, the default color will be used for the
    character at that position.
    If newline is True, a linebreak will be added after printing the text.
    """
    if decoder:
        text = unicode(text, decoder)
    elif type(text) != type(u''):
        print "DBG> BUG: Non-unicode passed to wikipedia.output without decoder!"
        print traceback.print_stack()
        print "DBG> Attempting to recover, but please report this problem"
        try:
            text = unicode(text, 'utf-8')
        except UnicodeDecodeError:
            text = unicode(text, 'iso8859-1')
    if logfile:
        # save the text in a logfile (will be written in utf-8)
        logfile.write(text + '\n')
        logfile.flush()
#    ui.output(text, colors = colors, newline = newline)
    print text
#def input(question):
#    return ui.input(question)
#def inputChoice(question, answers, hotkeys, default = None):
#    return ui.inputChoice(question, answers, hotkeys, default)

If you have anymore questions, don't hestitate to leave a note on my talk page. --AllyUnion (talk) 19:57, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

talk page spam

Quit spamming my talk page with a copy of every bit of dialogue we have on yours. — Davenbelle 03:29, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Can you elaborate? How would you like me to respond? --Cool Cat 03:50, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Just A Question

How do you do what you do? You give answers to questions that do not fully explain. They just let you know what you need to know. Not to pry but, how old are you? You word things like, an adult. I think you may be the most mature, open-minded person I've met on the net. -C2 aaron

Thank you for your compliments. The trick is to focus on a point rather than try to explain everything related in one go. Unnecesary details generaly gets people carried away.

I prefer to conceal personal information such as age. It is a personal preferance of mine and nothing personal. --Cool Cat 15:19, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Bmicomp's RfA

Well, my RfA has not quite completed yet, but either way, I'd like to thank you for your vote and your support, regardless of the outcome. -- BMIComp (talk, HOWS MY DRIVING) 23:39, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

61 Ayes to 1 Nays and you are concenred about the outcome? Geez... ;) --Cool Cat 23:48, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

User:Coolcat-> User:Cool Cat_User:Cool_Cat-User_posts:_Template:Fulldatetime-2005-09-17T11:41:00.000Z">

You are breaking links doing this "rename." Please cease, at least for now. Should you not, please exercise more care performing this sort of refactoring. — Davenbelle 11:41, 17 September 2005 (UTC)_User:Cool_Cat"> _User:Cool_Cat">

Coolcat, I agree with Davenbelle, why don't you just place a redirect with your other alias to your recent one? It really is not Wiki to do that, you are braking links and eating servers memory, just by recopying the same data for such an insignificant edit. I think this can be considered as a misconduct, and is irresponsable. Fadix 04:38, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Because that creates double redirects and slows down servers and causes other problems. The proper procedure is eliminating double redirects. --Cool Cat 09:25, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

It is misconduct to insist on keeping what is wrong. Double redirects are much worse than a few (at worst 10 otherwise I would see it) broken links, which can be fixed instead of reverting 600 double redirects. --Cool Cat 09:27, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

I don't see how it is worst to just place a redirect to your other userspace to your current one, then editing bunchs, and braking links and taking server space. As for 600 double redirects, then, just blank your old user space, and place a hyperlink, tellin people that now you are using this user name. I still wonder why is the big deal on changing from Coolcat to Cool Cat, were you trying to hide your misbehavours or what? Fadix 16:18, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Geez. You have no idea what you are talking about. The problem is the extra page load. Have a read of WP:ABF will ya? --Cool Cat 16:23, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

As for 600 double redirects, then, just blank your old user space, and place a hyperlink, tellin people that now you are using this user name. I still wonder why is the big deal on changing from Coolcat to Cool Cat, were you trying to hide your misbehavours or what? Fadix 16:18, 18 September 2005 (UTC) No idea right. Fadix 16:28, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Please do not quote people on things they posted on the same chain. It is quite irritating. --Cool Cat 17:48, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

I will, when it fits. You just write here to show you have something to say. I just made a little comment, and you blew it out of proportion. Consider this my last answer about this thing. Fadix 17:53, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Ok be irritating, and tell me it is civil too. I did say please. I did not blow anything out of proportion. I just dont understand why are you making comments regarding wikimedia. The software has an easier time with fewer redirects. --Cool Cat 18:11, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

JUST TALK

HEY, WHAT'S UP? HAVE YOU BEEN TO MY PAGE LATELY? 

IF YOU LISTEN TO MUSIC, YOU SHOULD GIVE ME YOUR OPINION ON THE SONGS I'VE GOT LISTED ON MY PAGE. DO YOU EVER WRITE FEMALES? WELL, G2G!

                                    C2 aaron 14:54, 19 September 2005 (UTC)