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"Publicly-known"?

Are there any indications that there are other more powerful but not-publicly-known non-nuclear bombs? If not, the "publicly-known" is redundant. Sijo Ripa 14:47, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I suppose that the fact that really, the only limit to the group of really-big non-nuclear bombs is transport limitation and effectiveness per mass or volume, means that at any given time, somebody could be working on a bigger one. And they all pale compared to the Halifax Explosion anyway, though "Random Shipping Accidents" is probably in a different category. -FrYGuY 03:34, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

What about this: U.S. develops 14-ton super bomb, bigger than Russian vacuum bomb? Dated October 13. V8Cougar 15:43, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Davy Crockett comparison incorrect

"However, bombs such as this do have yields equal to or superior to smaller nuclear weapons, such as the M-388 Davy Crockett, which has a maximum yield equivalent to 20 tons of TNT."

According to the M-388 Davy Crockett article, 10-20 tons is the minimum yield, not the maximum for that weapon. The max is 500 tons (0.5 kilotons), which is much bigger than this Russian bomb. --Howdybob 15:44, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, but thats still nuclear isnt it so it doesnt count. --Climax-Void

Huh? That's the point. It's one of the smallest nuclear weapons, and its maximum yield is more than ten times that of the "FOAB". Right now the article says the M-388 has a maximum yield of 20 tons, which is incorrect. --Howdybob 20:42, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. Still, I think that the comparison to tactical nukes makes sense; the yield is at least comparable, so this bomb is capable of doing things that would otherwise require nuclear weapons. GregorB 21:42, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, my bad. CeeWhy2 21:43, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

What I thought is that the majority of nuclear weapon yield is in the form of fast neutron, damage environment, biological cell, electrical equipment, huge range, extremely short duration. For conventional bomb, it is mostly in blast shock and heat form, damage is much more localize with greater effect on infrastructure than nuclear weapon of the same yield —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hereiam3 (talk • contribs) 16:14, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Most of the effects you listed are not factored into yield. How do you measure biological cell damage in tons of TNT? How much TNT does it take to make an EMP? No, yield is a measure of the blast effect. --OuroborosCobra (talk) 21:20, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

I removed a lot of unsourced info, as it's considered original research not suitable for wikipedia. Feel free to find some credible, verifiable sources with the information and re-add it to the article. Krawndawg (talk) 18:00, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Youtube

Is this thing on youtube yet? They had the footage on the news, a bit weeny compared to the ending montage on Dr Strangelove, heheh.Comradeash 10:57, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes. GregorB 16:25, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Having watched the video, I would say that the test drop was done out of the back of a transport. However, that does not mean that the bomb cant be deployed from a Tu-160. The stated payload for a 160 is 44000kg. The FOAB comes in at just under 8000kg. The 160 has 2 bomb bays, so thoretically, it can carry at least 2. Of course to be absolutely sure you'd need to have the dimensions of the bomb bays and the actual bomb itself. Also there would be the problem of designing a clamping system to hold 7.8 tons suspended in a single mass for a long period of time. 82.34.146.59 (talk) 10:42, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Highly efficient

Has anyone discussed other uses of this "highly efficient" explosive (five times better than TNT)? I'd like to see whether you can adapt the technology for the space program or perhaps even for use in low-weight storage batteries. Does anyone have a guess what it is? Wnt (talk) 16:38, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Batteries don't tend to work via explosive chemical reactions... --OuroborosCobra (talk) 16:48, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Admittedly, the odds are against it being applicable; nonetheless bear in mind for example that a lithium battery often uses lithium perchlorate, for example. You might say that batteries include only those explosives that you can insert an electrode into, chemically speaking. Wnt (talk) 22:10, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Units

Surely the yield of the weapons must be in kilotons, not tons? The Hiroshima bomb was over 10 kilotons... Causantin (talk) 09:02, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Ok I checked the sources and it seems to be 11 / 44 'tons' of TNT... but isn't it a bit underwhelming? This supposedly amazing new weapon is (in the case of the MOAB) 1.6 times better than TNT ... a 19th century tachnology... Causantin (talk) 09:12, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

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