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Hello, Seth Whales, and welcome to Misplaced Pages! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Ha! I studied the Cardiff barrage as a case study for my BA in Geography!! I know ALLLL about it. I was unfortunately in Cardiff library was several days looking through the documents on it! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ 12:07, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Moving images on Millennium Stadium

Hi! I wanted to let you know that I've just reverted your edit to Millennium Stadium, and give you my reasons for doing so. I did this for a few reasons, but mainly because your edit had moved images about football into the rugby section of the article, making them less illustrative.

Images at the bottom of sections can also cause 'edit-link clumping', in which edit links from consecutive sections all clump together in a group several sections further down, because the images overflowing from previous sections displace them; this makes it harder to edit a specific section later because the link isn't on the same line as the heading. This is particularly apparent at wider screen resolutions, where text takes up fewer lines. (For an example, see Emerson Fittipaldi in a window more than 700px wide.) Unfortunately, the preview doesn't indicate this; however, a quick check after saving (or use of the sandbox for a copy of the article) offers the opportunity to undo.

Finally, though your change may have improved the layout on your screen, it made no difference to any I examined the differences on. When trying to improve layout it's important to test it in a few different browsers at various screen resolutions: what may make an improvement for one user may make no difference for others, or worse, may be significantly detrimental.

I believe you made a good-faith edit, and I don't want to discourage you from trying to make other improvements to the layout of articles, but please remember that layout is a tricky beast that requires thorough testing, and that it is a secondary concern to content and it's logical arrangement. If you want to ask me anything, just reply here: I'll put this page on my watchlist. - ObfuscatePenguin 15:24, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Image:U2 at Cardiff Arms Park.jpg

This is a striking image, and I note (with pleasure) that you've gone to the trouble of filling in a detailed non-free rationale. It's not actually a poster but a ticket stub, so the tag isn't quite accurate, but I think that's a fairly minor concern. Rather more so is this: the copyright tag says that such images have to be used "to provide critical commentary on the ... event ... not solely for illustration". At the moment, the Cardiff Arms Park article does seem to be using this image solely for illustration, in which case the rationale would seem to fail. Loganberry (Talk) 23:51, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

I'll edit it out in a day or two if I have to, but is there any way round it? If you could find a couple of references to the actual event, for example, short enough to fit into the article but long enough to be more than simple "there was a U2 concert there" stuff, then it might be arguable that it was critical commentary. I'm rather loth to lose the image, since it is a striking one, but I don't think we can keep it as things stand. Loganberry (Talk) 16:10, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Image rights

Thanks for your message. I'm no expert on image licensing, but it seems to me that "I believe it to be copyright-free." might or might not be considered sufficient grounds to tag it as such. I'd tend to err on the side of caution. There's the name of a photographer in the top right corner, which appears to be "J R Andrews" (although the first character is unclear). A quick Google didn't turn up a likely candidate, but if we could find the photographer, it's likely that they could inform you whether they consider it to be copyright free. Without that, I'd suggest asking at Misplaced Pages:Media copyright questions where there are editors with more knowledge in this field. Warofdreams talk 23:49, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Help required

{{helpme}} Just loved this (51°28′43″N 3°10′57.5″W / 51.47861°N 3.182639°W / 51.47861; -3.182639) and would like to do the same on other articles....but how is it done??? Seth Whales 10:05, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

See Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Geographical coordinates, Template:GeoTemplate and the other associated template page I guess (Category:Coordinates templates). KTC 12:02, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

How?

Hi!

How did you make your logo Image:Logo-freightliner.jpg.

I am interested as it seems to be from an image

PLEASE RESPOND AT MY TALK PAGE, User talk:ACBest.

Thanks ACBestDog and Bone 12:54, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Image:Smallershop340by272.jpg

The image has several problems. First of all, it doesn't have a source listed, so it should be listed at WP:IFD. It also appears to have copyright problems, as you have indicated. Copyright problems are dealt with at Misplaced Pages:Copyright problems, which is where I would list the image (instead of at WP:IFD]]. The image was uploaded by User:Spillers Records, so it most likely was uploaded by the store. Royalbroil 15:57, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Allied Occupation Zones in Germany

I have responded on my talk page. I look forward to a productive discussion. Unschool (talk) 00:26, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

On capital letters

Our style guide for capitals states (here):

For proper names and trademarks that are given in mixed or non-capitalization by their owners (such as k.d. lang, adidas and others), follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules.

There is also a fuller illustration of how we normally deal with names in mixed case. In the absence of anything it might stand for as an abbreviation, the standard capitalization would be Atrium, and not ATRiuM - regardless of the University's wishes. As things stand, because Atrium (Cardiff) has no edit history, ATRiuM (Cardiff) can be moved back there without any issue, unless there is some significant reason for doing so other than adhering to their own preferred form. Thanks 90.203.45.214 (talk) 18:11, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

Just like to say thanks for the star! I concentrate on Welsh related articles and one of my goals is to counter the POV and belittlement of Cardiff by some editors (who I think are from Swansea!) Welshleprechaun (talk) 19:11, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

You've don an excellent job there and it will be of great help. Personally I think the Cardiff article could really be great but it just seems so plain and nobody seems to care about it. I'd like to change all that, of course. I might just give you a barnstar for your service to Wales! -MichiganCharms (talk) 20:46, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

A4232 road

I award you this barnstar for your continuing contributions to A4232 road to make it a top notch article Welshleprechaun (talk) 20:48, 7 March 2008 (UTC) |}

John Owen (Owain Alaw)

Hi Seth, just curious about the 'unreferenced' tag you have added to the John Owen (Owain Alaw) article - there are three separate sources that are referenced in the article. I know this isn't exactly comprehensive, but I think it'd be more appropriate to point out specific parts in the text you feel need a reference (the 'citation needed' tags). Any thoughts? Rob Lindsey (talk) 12:36, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

My first Barnstar!

Thanks for the barnstar mate, you're a top bloke! Bettia 09:32, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

User:Cardiff123098

The user looks almost certain to be the same as User:Wales123098, but that account now appears inactive. The edits aren't helpful, but appear as a very slow trickle and are currently being dealt with by warnings. The first image you mention appears to be an exact copy of . It's so blatant that it could possibly be tagged with {{Db-imgcopyvio}}, but I've erred on the side of caution and listed both at Misplaced Pages:Possibly unfree images. Please feel free to comment there. Warofdreams talk 02:00, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Improving Cardiff articles

Hi Seth I am trying to get some order into the Cardiff related pages and am fairly new to this so would appreciate your views on how best to structure things. If you have a look at Cardiff Bay I've been adding details links to the main articles (or stubs) and hope this will encourage people to develop them. I notice you have a few things on your to do list I also plan to work on, so perhaps we could collaborate, as you have the experience and I work in County Hall and can provide access to loads of refs and images such as aerial views etc? Tony (talk) 07:24, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for helping to develop the Wetlands article. It was CHA's decision to create the reserve in 2000 and I will reference the fact but have temporarily put the most relevant report I can find. David Lowe really did not want that quote included and after consideration I feel it does not add to the article as the rubbish issue is for the whole Bay - not just the Wetlands. You may be interested to know we supported a student to PhD research on the Wetlands so we are getting hold of his dissertation and will publish it on the Web so that it can be referenced. Tony (talk) 08:30, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

My uploaded picture

Sorry! I keep doing this! I thought I would be safe with flickr as their licensing system seemed simple! Looks like I better keep away from the uploading area altogether! I'm awfully muddle headed when it comes to uploading images! It would be a dream come true if you would take a picture of Llywelyn for me! Are there by any chance, any statues of Llywelyn the Great or Daffyd there? If so, they too would come in really handy for the articles. I wish I could go with you! There is even a statue of Boudicca there! Thanks so much I really appreciate this! Regards --Cameron (t|p|c) 10:15, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Wow, thanks that would be marvellous! I am so jealous! --Cameron (t|p|c) 12:00, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Any news on Dafydd? = ) --Cameron (t|p|c) 12:20, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

No worries, I didn't mean to press you, I was just wondering! = )--Cameron (t|p|c) 14:50, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Cardiff Athletic Club

On 18 May, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Cardiff Athletic Club, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 17:31, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Llywelyn the last

The pic looks amazing, thanks so much for your hard work!It makes such a difference to an article to have a picture of the person, don't you think? = ) Thanks again! --Cameron (T|C) 14:07, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Cardiff Arms Park

Congratulations on your work on Cardiff Arms Park. It looks great—keep it up! - Shudde 15:05, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Tinkinswood

Good work on the Tinkinswood article! Welshleprechaun (talk) 22:36, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

DYK nom of Tinkinswood

Hi Seth - I wanted to alert you that this website, which is most likely not a reliable source. The second proposed hook is OK, but you may want to address the concern over the website (which is a major source for the article) and give your comment on the nomination page. Regards, Vishnava _talk 19:14, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Tinkinswood

On 3 June, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tinkinswood, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 18:29, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I just want to congratulate for all the hard work you;ve done on the Vale of Glamorgan, you;ve done the area proud. I live in Highlight Park, Barry and the work you are doing is terrifc -I was gobsmacked at how developed the A4232 article has become. I started the A4050 article and we now even have images! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 20:14, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Bureaucracy

Dear Seth, Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I don't feel I have time for it at the moment. I am actually a bureaucrat on the Welsh language wikipedia, which is much less work than the English but still quite enough for me! Maybe one day I will feel ready and able. Deb (talk) 20:30, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

DYK

On 20 June, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Millennium Stadium Charitable Trust, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Gatoclass (talk) 16:41, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Rollback granted

After reviewing your request for rollback, I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:

• Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
• Rollback can be used to revert vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
• Rollback may be removed at any time.

If you no longer want rollback, then contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some information on how to use rollback, you can view this page. I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, just leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Happy editing! Acalamari 19:03, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. Don't worry about not using it that often: as long as you use it only to revert vandalism, and not to revert good-faith edits or to revert-war, you'll be fine. For practice, you may want to see Misplaced Pages:New admin school/Rollback. Good luck. Acalamari 19:10, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Image:Evstafiev-Radovan Karadzic 3MAR94.jpg

LOL this guy has a head of hair that would put even Rhodri Morgan to shame don't ya think? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 12:17, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

A4241 road

Hi, thanks for your appreciation of this article. I'd like to put it on the did you know page, but the process is quite daunting to me as I'm fairly new to Misplaced Pages. I'll read up on this and might have a go at posting to did you know in future. May I ask a favour: can you post it for me on Did you know this time? Argoed (talk) 21:26, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for this. Fingers crossed. Argoed (talk) 22:03, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Shamateurism and the professional era 1980-to date

Wow, Brave sub-title, hope you can add to that, as my weakness is the 1980's and beyond. I'm still working on 1930-to 1979, but I need to read my books more clearly to make sure I'm getting a multi-linked view-point. Seen your name crossing quite a few of my watch lists recently, look forward to working with you in the future. FruitMonkey (talk) 22:23, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

DYK

On 28 August, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Rodney Pattisson, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Gatoclass (talk) 16:06, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

A4232 road

Please stop inserting redundant information. Doing this in spite of the clear points made to you on that talk page is considered disruptive, and can lead to blocking of editing privileges. 217.36.107.9 (talk) 11:57, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Reply

Please note that 217.36.107.9 was actual blocked on 4 September 2008, not myself. See as this user has continued to delete any all warnings that any editor has given. Therefore I have put this on my own Talk Page for historical record only. Seth Whales (talk) 10:19, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't negotiate with users that engage in direct personal attacks. I also don't negotiate on matters of policy - such as that of introducing redundant information. 217.36.107.9 (talk) 14:26, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Images

Hi! I want to know if you can to upload the follow images to Commons, because I need them to articles in portuguese Misplaced Pages:

Image:Paralympic logo 2000 Sydney.jpg

Image:Atlanta 1996 Para.jpg

Image:Barcelona 1992 Para.jpg

Image:Seoul 1988 Para.jpg

Image:New York 1984 Paralympics.jpg

Image:Arnhem 1980 Para Games.jpg

Image:Torontolympiad 1976.jpg

Image:Tel Aviv 1968 Paralympics.jpg

Image:ISMG 1960 & 1964.jpg

Cdmafra (talk) 13:04, 4 September 2008 (UTC)Cdmafra

Orphaned non-free media (Image:City of Machester Stadium @ Commonwealth Games.jpg)

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Your GA nomination of Millennium Stadium

The article Millennium Stadium you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . It hasn't failed because it's basically a good article, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Millennium Stadium for things needed to be addressed. weebiloobil (talk) 17:09, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Just so's you know, I passed Millennium Stadium. Feel free to review an article yourself, of course. Thanks - weebiloobil (talk) 21:21, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

St Lythans

Thank you. It was chosen for the 'Did you know?' on 16th August, but the hook was that rubbish about the capstone spinning round round three times, and all the stones bathing in a nearby river. It's a fascinating place, though. It doesn't have the wow factor of Tinkinswood, but it's still wonderful. There were virtually no finds from William Collings excavations - strange, huh? It could be that the site was abandoned and all the ancestral bones moved to Tinkinswood. Just my theory. I haven't found anything else yet that has been as extensively researched as st Lythans, but doesn't have a Wiki article already. The search continues. Llantrisant Parish maybe. But that would be huge. We'll see. Yours, Daicaregos (talk) 21:13, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Just realised that you created the Tinkinswood article, and only in May! I'm sure you noticed that I used the format of your article as the basis of the St Lythans one. It was an inspiration. Without yours, the St Lythans article would have been completely different and definitely a lot poorer. Cheers Seth Whales. Yours, Daicaregos (talk) 21:25, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, good idea. Thanks. I'm just having a look to expand Barry Island and Butlins (Barry) at the moment, but that's a good place to look. Have you seen coflein? Some impressive research there. Cheers Daicaregos (talk) 15:45, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: Request for Adminship

Good morning Seth.

I must, I'm very gratified that you would consider me admin material. If you wish to nominate me, then by all means go ahead! Unfortunately I haven't been able to make as many meaningful edits lately - there's still some peer review comments on Cardiff, Andover F.C. and Colchester Gladiators that still need addressing, but I've been doing a bit of vandal fighting lately. I think the fact I've only made around 1100 mainspace edits may count against me though - just something to consider.

As for Barack Obama, there are a few foreign policy issues of his I don't agree with (especially his views on the status of Jerusalem), but on the whole I'd rather have him as US pres than someone whose VP thinks the Iraq war was a mission from God, and that polar bears shouldn't be classed as endangered because it would affect energy policy!

Bettia (rawr CRUSH!) 08:40, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for that. I guess I'll just to wait and see what happens now. BTW, considering the many decent contributions you've made, have you ever considered going for adminship yourself? Bettia (rawr CRUSH!) 15:03, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

No personal attacks

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive comments.
If you continue to make personal attacks on other people, you will be blocked for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. 217.36.107.9 (talk) 15:24, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Blocking

Please have a go at Blocking me...be my guest...Best wishes as always. Seth Whales (talk) 15:31, 10 September 2008 (UTC)