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I thank you for the copy of the page. I have read both ] and ] and am sorry that I once again disagree with you. Your reference of these pages in response to my questioning does not in and of itself define my actions but instead has provided me with the knowledge that not only justifies the process i have executed of Not canvassing or personally attacking but was the exact way to dispute an action. I notified no user who had not already injected themselves in to the converstaion and made no personal attack with the exception of the statement of "blocking a user who deletes a page without going thru the proper channels" which is not a personal attack but is a process/statement made by a user not about another user's innate tendancies or person but a mere statement of an acknowledged process of review observed by nearly every admin.. I suggest you strike thru your allegations of alleged violations by myself and we may then talk about your use of the word "trolling" and how one may interpret this. Once again thank you for the copy of the page.--] (]) 22:10, 9 October 2008 (UTC) I thank you for the copy of the page. I have read both ] and ] and am sorry that I once again disagree with you. Your reference of these pages in response to my questioning does not in and of itself define my actions but instead has provided me with the knowledge that not only justifies the process i have executed of Not canvassing or personally attacking but was the exact way to dispute an action. I notified no user who had not already injected themselves in to the converstaion and made no personal attack with the exception of the statement of "blocking a user who deletes a page without going thru the proper channels" which is not a personal attack but is a process/statement made by a user not about another user's innate tendancies or person but a mere statement of an acknowledged process of review observed by nearly every admin.. I suggest you strike thru your allegations of alleged violations by myself and we may then talk about your use of the word "trolling" and how one may interpret this. Once again thank you for the copy of the page.--] (]) 22:10, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:You're welcome, but it was calling me ''homophobic'' which was (and is) the personal attack. ]<sup>]</sup> 22:16, 9 October 2008 (UTC) :You're welcome, but it was calling me ''homophobic'' which was (and is) the personal attack. ]<sup>]</sup> 22:16, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

==Orgone==
Hi, I know this comment of yours is kind of old, but I was reviewing the talkpage and just recently saw it. I was really surprised to see something like this, especially from an administrator. Would you be willing to refactor it? Or, is it alright with you if I just delete it, or take the attack out? Thanks, --]]] 02:21, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

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Your declined reason

The discussion is ongoing on the talk page, and the newbie created the subpage without any consensus or prior asking. The content is duplicated, so there is no reason to have the subpage!--Caspian blue (talk) 21:05, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

That's not a valid speedy delete reason. Ignore the page if you wish. Or nominate it for Afd. KillerChihuahua 21:06, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Improper answer for the duplicated page created by obvious sock. Why don't you defer it to other admin if you wish to ignore it.--Caspian blue (talk) 21:08, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Can I put speedy tag again, since I obviously don't believe that I have to take the subpage with duplicated and ongoing dispute to AFD--Caspian blue (talk) 21:11, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
I need a valid speedy delete reason to delete something. G3 would work, more or less, if all the content is still extant on the original talk page, which you indicated was not the case, as you stated the user moved the page. Is that correct, or did you mis-state? KillerChihuahua 21:14, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
The content is still on the original talk page, and the newbie unilaterally tried to move the whole disputes because some claim is not good for Japanese side. So the contents on the subpage is duplicated.--Caspian blue (talk) 21:18, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Ah, then it should have been tagged with {{db-g3}} and don't say move when you mean copy, ok? KillerChihuahua 21:19, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Understood.--Caspian blue (talk) 21:22, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Glad you stuck with it until the miscommunication was cleared up, and glad I could help, btw. KillerChihuahua 21:25, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks!--Caspian blue (talk) 21:28, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
You are quite welcome. KillerChihuahua 21:29, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Please do not delete my page

If you do not know a subject or person please ask. Do not delete pages you know nothing about. Professor Walman is mentioned on a number of pages that refer to his certification as a Schillinger teacher.D2leo (talk) 23:50, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

You may want to read Misplaced Pages:Notability (academics), which is the relevant guideline for Jerome Walman. EVula // talk // // 00:04, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Jerome Walman

Why did you delete my page????????????? If you are uninformed ask the experts.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by D2leo (talkcontribs) 00:43, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Please read Misplaced Pages:Why was my page deleted?. KillerChihuahua 00:46, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Intelligent Design

That place is a powder keg. If I was a new user, I would've done something dumb, like reverted, and that would've gone to hell fast. I'm afraid that the "stable version" that people are talking about is a result of that, not that we've found anything remotely close to the best article that it could be. Not complaining per se, but ruminating. Things have changed, and its hard dealing with the new Wiki. Or maybe I'm remembering the old days wrong.

At any rate, thanks for hearing me out and not treating me like I'm a POV pusher. I appreciate it. Separately, do you ever use the IRC channel?--Tznkai (talk) 01:55, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes. KillerChihuahua 01:59, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Sarah Palin

Hi! I noted the major revision under "Reception" for the Sarah Palin article. There was no consensus on that revision, and there is, as you know, further discussion about the relevance of how the media feel about Palin. I am not one to revert, but reversion would make the discussion which is ongoing have a chance of success. Thanks! Collect (talk) 23:02, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

You must have missed not only my comment on the article talk page but also my notice at the top of this page "Comment about the content of a specific article on the Talk: page of that article, and not here." I'm not deleting your message this time, but in the future please do not bring content complaints here. KillerChihuahua 00:58, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
I did not intend to have you view it as a complaint, but feared you had not read the additional material, which you clearly have read. Sorry. Collect (talk) 01:18, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
I have read the entire damn talk page, and have for some time now. I ignore trolling; those who are discussing the subject and not the article; and of course always take into account our core policies, as CON never trumps NPOV and BLP. It is a pity you are rude enough to accuse me of what you cannot possibly know, that is, what I have read and not read, and been disingenuous enough to phrase your accusation as a "fear". Please attempt to AGF and treat other editors with more respect in the future. KillerChihuahua 10:29, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

I have always assumed good faith. I trust that is satisfactory. Further on Talk: Sarah Palin. Collect (talk) 19:09, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Clearly, you are lying, you just accused me of NOT wanting a balanced article. That is a personal attack, not assuming good faith. KillerChihuahua 19:11, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

thanks for the welcome, but what sparked it?

I appreciate the welcome and pointers to info on editing wikipedia, but I'm not sure what sparked it. Was it the edits I just made to the Tupac Shakur page and talk page? I believe those were all done in accordance with the info you linked, including signing my talk page contribution. Electronwill (talk) 22:25, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, that's on my watch list, and that's how I noticed your arrival. Good edits, much appreciated. The Welcome is the standard {{Welcome}} template, apologies if it seemed I was criticizing - I was honestly and sincerely welcoming you! that said, the links can be helpful if you wish to read up on the How and the Rules and so on of Misplaced Pages. KillerChihuahua 22:27, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Oh, OK. Thank you! Electronwill (talk) 22:50, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Hobartimus and minor edits

Already been there done that with telling him to be more careful with the use of minor edits., Unfortunately Hobartimus is under the mistaken impression that it doesn't apply to talk pages. Heh. Hopefully two reminders will on the same thing will be more helpful. --Bobblehead 18:19, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Oh dear, I hope he doesn't feel harassed. Btw, I just used the template - {{Uw-minor}}. You are quite correct, summaries are encouraged for all edits, not merely article edits. KillerChihuahua 18:22, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
I could have, but I prefer the personal touch with "experienced" editors, but thanks for the pointer on the template. I'll whip it out next time I see a newbie dropping the M tag. --Bobblehead 18:34, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Guiding Light!

First of all I wanted to thank you for your warm welcome.


I wanted to ask you about the cast listing. I've seen in the talk page for Guiding Light (2000-2009) that you have requested that the standard Contract/Recurring/etc. format not be copied. I was just wondering what your rationale was behind keeping the "family" structure was instead. Personally (and I say it without malice), this format seems more derivative of other sites on the Internet and also seems somewhat strange when compared to the pages for all other daytime dramas such as As The World Turns or The Young and the Restless, which have used the alphabetical Contract/Recurring format for as long as I've seen them, and even primetime shows which use a similar format, and overall seems much cleaner and efficient.

Again, thanks for your insight! Tehkrayon (talk) 19:45, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

The other soaps copied an industry magazine. No other media in the world uses the bizarre and incomprehensible "going and coming" in their castlist. Look at any other cast list whatsoever, and that is not used. It is too bad the rest of the soap opera articles on WP have been lazy and sheep-like enough to copy that format, but I see no reason to sink to their level. KillerChihuahua 19:49, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Women, female

Apparently "assume good faith" isn't a rule of thumb with you. Next time you disagree with an edit, try a little more tact. SchutteGod (talk) 17:15, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Please link to where you feel I did not assume good faith, thanks. KillerChihuahua 17:26, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

SchutteGod is disruptive and silly. The word “female” is a completely acceptable adjective. The word “woman” makes a better noun. For example: first female president, or, first woman to serve as president etc.

Please knock it off SchutteGod. Hello4321 (talk) 07:39, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Hello4321, please avoid insults such as calling fellow editors "disruptive and silly". Maintaining a civil environment is important for all of us. KillerChihuahua 11:28, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

talk:Sarah Palin

I just added a lengthy section about how policies relate to this article, can you go over it and make sure I didn't make any mistakes? Thanks, Slrubenstein | Talk 19:06, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Wow, nice! - long is right, but it seems it isn't suffering from tl;dr - it has sparked a very nice discussion about applicable policies. I've scanned it and the responses, I'm going back to read it carefully now, but on first scan (and judging by the responses as well) it looks like you did an outstanding job. KillerChihuahua 00:55, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Query about giving warnings shortly after vandalism has stopped

Would you please take a look here where I warned a user for 3 vandal edits, but my warning took place shortly after the last vandalism, and another editor removed them as the vandalism had stopped. From my perspective, it could have been just a 'lunch break', so I felt it useful to leave the warnings so they were clear that continuing would lead to a block. I'm not sure what the normal behaviour here would be. I probably would have blocked her if she came back and started vandalising again, whether or not the warnings had been removed. Maybe that would have been wrong, but we block to stop vandalising, and if someone's on a spree... Thanks. Doug Weller (talk) 14:14, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Comment left. KillerChihuahua 16:02, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Science-Based Medicine (blog)

Hello, do you remember this article I put up for CSD? The creating editor has stated that they can't WP:V it and has said that it can be CSD'ed. My question is, should I put it back up for CSD, or should it be PROD or AFD now that it's gone through CSD once? Thanks! fr33kman -s- 23:08, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know - I deleted under G7, author request (per talk page). KillerChihuahua 23:29, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
You're welcome! fr33kman -s- 23:42, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

AAU reminder notice

A friendly reminder from the Adopt-a-User project =)
Hey there KillerChihuahua! This is a friendly reminder to update your status at Misplaced Pages:Adopt-a-User/Adoptee's Area/Adopters whenever it is appropriate in order to provide new users with the most up-to-date information on available adopters. Also please note that we will be removing adopters who have not edited in 60 days. If you become active again (and we hope you do!) please feel free to re-add yourself. Cheers!

IAR

Endorse. (And I don't really view it as IAR anyway.)  Frank  |  talk  22:43, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

heh, thanks. Some view anything shy of adhering to every possible bureaucratic detail as OMG ignoring Due Process. KillerChihuahua 22:58, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Oh, don't think that won't happen here. I'm just pre-endorsing. ;-)  Frank  |  talk  23:29, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

RE Psychokinesis

Thank you for this edit. Thus far, AFAICT, there is no scientific evidence that, say, the flight of a ball hit by a baseball batter's bat has been affected by the psychic disposition of a completely silent 50,000 member "home-team crowd". This despite our ability to fairly precisely measure bat speed, ball speed, speed of the pitcher's arm/forearm/wrist/hand, etc. etc. Perhaps a more empirically verifiable parameter might be produced by, say, the combined sound of fifty-thousand massively audible "boos", or whatever they typically do at the ballparks. ... Kenosis (talk) 03:56, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks...

...for your very helpful advice! ;). Thanks, Spencer 16:06, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

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Do you have any idea what the issue really is? I encourage you to find something useful to do with your time and restrain yourself from actually typeing your thoughts on anymore pages or subjects. I've read a few of your tid bits of knowledge and I'm rather embarrased for you. Either you are an incomplete thinker or just too fast of a typer. Take a moment & maybe a deep breath before straining that abstract mind of yours any longer.--MDnews2u (talk) 19:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it was speedy deleted under G11, which is advertising. You can find the list of Speedy deletion criteria on WP:CSD. FYI, you misspelled "embarrassed". KillerChihuahua 19:25, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

see ] and you will see that the page should have been given 5 days. I'm glad your spell checker is working-thanks for the "snippy" comment. see also ] it's one of your personal favorites. --MDnews2u (talk) 19:35, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Nonsense. I don't have to look at anyone's talk page. It was deleted under G11, a speedy criteria, which does not require a wait time. Prods require 5 days. You are confused.
I am indeed "snippy" as you put it; I am attempting to explain things to you, who have spammed at least three people's talk pages with demanding and misinformed posts. You have responded by telling me my thinking is faulty and you are embarrassed for me, which is extremely insulting. You have now taken issue with a simple spelling correction from me. I suggest you get off the high horse and attempt to learn, rather than lecture. KillerChihuahua 19:40, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Please remain calm. Although you don't HAVE to look at someone's talk page it would have certainly helped you to understand that the page was under intelligent review and discussion prior to its unwarranted deletion. It should have had a normal deletion process based on the mitigating circumstances of the newly presented articles of notability. An attempt to make a case for a "proper" regular deletion of any page is not, or should not be considered spam-when writing on another user's talk page in an attempt to question an innapropriate deletion becomes spam this site has lost all credibility and peer review (and NO, the inclusion of a healthcare clinic that provides a vital/novel service does NOT reduce this site's credibility). I will once again request that the ICW page be reinstated and the 5 days of a regular deletion process be observed so that interested parties may contribute/discuss its place, if any, on this site. As it is now the public are unable to weigh in.--MDnews2u (talk) 20:00, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

I am calm. It does no good to look at any preceding discussion, whether intelligent or not, when an article has been speedied. You are now asking that a deleted article be restored. Please see WP:DRV. KillerChihuahua 20:04, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Incorrect- The initial speedy was contested and removed by Largoplazo leaving either a regular deletion process or a call for more sources concerning notability. redvar or whoever placed the speedy and subsequent deletion of the page ignoring the previous actions and therefore was in violation of the numerous guidelines outlined in the links you have posted. please review this history b/c i'm unable for even the talk/discussion history was deleted. --MDnews2u (talk) 20:22, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Redvers deleted under a speedy criteria; this means merely that he disagreed with Largoplazo. No tag is needed when an admin speedies an article. You seem to think that a prior speedy discussion has precedence or bearing on a subsequent action; this is not necessarily so. Redvers violated no policy when he deleted the article. KillerChihuahua 20:34, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

My attempt to question your actions (actually redvers) has been executed with respect for and indifference to your sole opinion. this is the process of a discussion. Where else does one seek help or opinions than discussion pages of other users (admin.). Your pattern of Crying "spam, spam" when you disagree with another user has not gone unnoticed even by other admin.'s. I will once again ask you to attempt to remain calm and try, if at all possible to look at this situation objectively without ganging up on any user including myself in the future. I am requesting that you step back and turn this issue over to another admin. based on your emotional responses and homophobic slurrs. Thank you for your consideration and I would like a copy of the original page made available so that the appropriate changes can be made including the article's name if necessary. Thank you. --MDnews2u (talk) 21:00, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

I see no evidence of emotional responses, and certainly not of "homophobic slurs" - this is quite an accusation to make. Please provide evidence of such, or retract this portion of the statement. Other admins, such as my self, have commented to your page that the deletion is acceptable. Please discuss this constructively, or not at all. Fritzpoll (talk) 21:08, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Evidence: What on earth do you expect to accomplish by trolling here? Do you even realize that you are trolling? KillerChihuahua?!? 19:04, 9 October 2008 (UTC) I hope that you are not referring to the gay slang term when you say "trolling" for this would be inappropriate and warrant some serious discussion and possible actions concerning your homophobic rhetoric.--MDnews2u (talk) 19:39, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

I didn't even know there was a gay slang term which used the word. See Troll (Internet) KillerChihuahua?!? 19:46, 9 October 2008 (UTC) Oh hell, I looked it up, and it just means trying to pick up someone. A)if you're trolling (in the gay slang sense), you suck at it, because spamming someone's talk page with complaints is hardly the best way to flirt, and B)if I thought you were trolling (in the gay slang sense), that might make me confused about how to pick up people, but it wouldn't make me homophobic. Jury's in; you are trolling, in the internet sense, and I'm done with your nonsense. Puppy has spoken; puppy is done. KillerChihuahua?!? 19:56, 9 October 2008 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Redvers"

"puppy has spoken; puppy is done". is a very "constructive" discussion. Please stop belittling this issue and ignoring the actual requests of a copy of the original page as well as a 5 day regular review and deletion process. This is not an unreasonable request. --MDnews2u (talk) 21:19, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Given that he says specifically that he was not using it in a homophobic sense, it is unfair to characterise it as such. If you continue to ignore users who have told you why the article was deleted under an appropriate process (five day deletion is not a "right" - compare WP:PROD and WP:CSD), you will be blocked for disruption (crossposting) Fritzpoll (talk) 21:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Please send or post on my talk page a copy of the original page so that I may make the changes necessary (including the page's name) for inclusion in this encyclopedia. I do not have access to the original and spent a good deal of time trying to make it acceptable. Once again this is not an unreasonable request and this is certainly not disruptive. --MDnews2u (talk) 21:37, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

No, but your violations of WP:CANVASS and WP:NPA are not only disruptive, they are blockable offenses. I suggest you strike through your allegation, above. KillerChihuahua 21:39, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Hello, I'm Julian and this is my friend Sandy. While the intention was obviously to refer to the WP:TROLL meaning, it's hard to see that MDnews2u was doing anything intentionally other than trying to advertise his wee non-notable clinic. Tendentious disruptive editing is a more accurate description. I strongly urge MDnews2u to strike through the allegation, and to accept that Misplaced Pages is not a venue for advertising. . . dave souza, talk 22:00, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

I thank you for the copy of the page. I have read both WP:CANVASS and WP:NPA and am sorry that I once again disagree with you. Your reference of these pages in response to my questioning does not in and of itself define my actions but instead has provided me with the knowledge that not only justifies the process i have executed of Not canvassing or personally attacking but was the exact way to dispute an action. I notified no user who had not already injected themselves in to the converstaion and made no personal attack with the exception of the statement of "blocking a user who deletes a page without going thru the proper channels" which is not a personal attack but is a process/statement made by a user not about another user's innate tendancies or person but a mere statement of an acknowledged process of review observed by nearly every admin.. I suggest you strike thru your allegations of alleged violations by myself and we may then talk about your use of the word "trolling" and how one may interpret this. Once again thank you for the copy of the page.--MDnews2u (talk) 22:10, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome, but it was calling me homophobic which was (and is) the personal attack. KillerChihuahua 22:16, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Orgone

Hi, I know this comment of yours is kind of old, but I was reviewing the talkpage and just recently saw it. I was really surprised to see something like this, especially from an administrator. Would you be willing to refactor it? Or, is it alright with you if I just delete it, or take the attack out? Thanks, --Elonka 02:21, 10 October 2008 (UTC)