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| ::Marsden, SlimVirgin: I was just writing that I was DEAD (its past 7 in the morning here-and I have not been to bed)..To Marsden: I´ve looked at the pages but I can hardly keep my eyes open, much less understand what the whole thing is about. And I really, really cannot edit something I do not understand! I´m sorry. (Hey, how awake are you at 7, without sleep?) To SlimVirgin: "increase your edit count in a qualitative way"...by becoming involved i reverting-wars?? Me not think so. The way I want to contribute to Misplaced Pages is outlined on my user-page + several other articles I would like to write. But if Misplaced Pages is worth the effort I have yet to decide: the jury is out. What I have seen of bias in the Middle East earea isn´t very pretty, IMO. I see a lot of people have quit Misplaced Pages due to what they call "the zionist lobby" -or similar things. Isn´t that a concern? Anyway, I´m writing this in a semi-concious state, now I´m definitely logging out, will not be back for 2 days (I have another life demanding my attention!) Regards, and goodnight (or rather: good morning) ] 05:24, 28 September 2005 (UTC) | ::Marsden, SlimVirgin: I was just writing that I was DEAD (its past 7 in the morning here-and I have not been to bed)..To Marsden: I´ve looked at the pages but I can hardly keep my eyes open, much less understand what the whole thing is about. And I really, really cannot edit something I do not understand! I´m sorry. (Hey, how awake are you at 7, without sleep?) To SlimVirgin: "increase your edit count in a qualitative way"...by becoming involved i reverting-wars?? Me not think so. The way I want to contribute to Misplaced Pages is outlined on my user-page + several other articles I would like to write. But if Misplaced Pages is worth the effort I have yet to decide: the jury is out. What I have seen of bias in the Middle East earea isn´t very pretty, IMO. I see a lot of people have quit Misplaced Pages due to what they call "the zionist lobby" -or similar things. Isn´t that a concern? Anyway, I´m writing this in a semi-concious state, now I´m definitely logging out, will not be back for 2 days (I have another life demanding my attention!) Regards, and goodnight (or rather: good morning) ] 05:24, 28 September 2005 (UTC) | ||
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Talk:Occupied Territories (Israeli)
Huldra --
Care to comment at the above? Thanks.
Marsden 17:47, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
POV forks
Marsden has created a POV fork of Occupation of the Palestinian territories, which Misplaced Pages simply doesn't allow. I agreed to allow it to stay as long as he didn't link to it, but he has repeatedly broken that agreement. If he wants to fix up articles, he should fix them up, not create personal versions on the same topic. And, by the way, I never saw you on the Talk: page before you reverted. Jayjg 00:46, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
I showed Marsden the Occupation of the Palestinian territories, he decided he didn't like it, so he created a new article that suited him better. Misplaced Pages doesn't permit two articles on the same topic from different POVs; if he wanted to improve the original article, he should have done so, rather than creating a new version. And it's rather inconsistent of you to insist that others need to use Talk: pages, but that you have no need to because you use "common sense" instead. And by the way, regarding this comment, , it would help if you actually knew the sequence of events before drawing conclusions. Marsden stated he was leaving Misplaced Pages, then "re-considered" and stated that he was sticking around so he could edit war with those he disagreed with: He then immediately went to 5 articles he had never been to before, 3 to revert me, and two to argue on Talk: pages where I was in disputes with others. This was long before the events that you comment on, so maybe you should investigate a little further in the future before you laugh quite so hard in the future. Jayjg 01:51, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
If you looked through Marsden's contributions, you would have noted many, many direct references to me, including various insultes and accusations that I am professionally paid to edit Misplaced Pages. If you're not willing to actually research the subject, then I see no point in discussing it with you. Jayjg 03:52, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
- Huldra, you might also find that it is mainly Jayjg and his cronies who refer to Occupied Territories (Israeli) as a "POV fork" of the Occupation of the Palestinian territories article (which Jay failed to mention he did not like either). Cheers! Marsden 04:08, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
No personal attacks
Huldra, your comments about other editors are becoming offensive. Please review Misplaced Pages:No personal attacks. You've made only 126 edits, 76 to the encyclopedia, so it's pretty early in your Misplaced Pages career to be so judgmental. Also, please see Misplaced Pages:Assume good faith. SlimVirgin 03:58, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
A little help in the revert wars
Huldra, sorry to bother you, but my double shadows have been up to mischief tonight. Would you mind terribly reverting Occupied Territories (Israeli) and Territories under Israeli control to my last versions, as of 04:10, 28 September 2005 and 04:21, 28 September 2005 respectively? SlimVirgin having so helpfully pointed out your new-ness here, the way you revert is you go to the article itself -- you may get re-directed on the "Occupied Territories (Israeli)" article, in which case in the article you end up at there should be a link under the title that says "Redirected from ..." that will take you back to the original article -- then click on the "history" tab, click the link for the version you want to revert to (this will have the time and date as the link text), click on the "edit this page" tab there, then scroll down on the edit page and click the "Save Page" button (ignoring the warning that it isn't the latest version of the article). I'd appreciate it much.
Also, I've been trying to do a little research on that US Aid to Israel project: there was a year -- 1993, I think -- when the US gave Israel almost a hundred combat aircraft under the "Excess Military Articles" program. The US government used to have a very useful database that you could search to find out anything you wanted to know about it, but now they've apparently dumbed the database down. Anyway, this EMA program has kind of been a shady thing, since it doesn't have to show up specifically in government accounting, so it's on top of the $3 billion annually that Israel has regularly been getting. You can imagine the value of a hundred combat aircraft -- including a few F-16s, for example. Eventually I'll find the info again.
Cheers. Marsden 04:36, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
- Huldra, I hope you won't simply take revert instructions from another new editor. A few editors have agreed on the new title, and we're now trying to improve the article, despite Marsden's reverting. If you want to increase your edit count in a qualitative way, I invite you to join us. SlimVirgin 04:59, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
- Marsden, SlimVirgin: I was just writing that I was DEAD (its past 7 in the morning here-and I have not been to bed)..To Marsden: I´ve looked at the pages but I can hardly keep my eyes open, much less understand what the whole thing is about. And I really, really cannot edit something I do not understand! I´m sorry. (Hey, how awake are you at 7, without sleep?) To SlimVirgin: "increase your edit count in a qualitative way"...by becoming involved i reverting-wars?? Me not think so. The way I want to contribute to Misplaced Pages is outlined on my user-page + several other articles I would like to write. But if Misplaced Pages is worth the effort I have yet to decide: the jury is out. What I have seen of bias in the Middle East earea isn´t very pretty, IMO. I see a lot of people have quit Misplaced Pages due to what they call "the zionist lobby" -or similar things. Isn´t that a concern? Anyway, I´m writing this in a semi-concious state, now I´m definitely logging out, will not be back for 2 days (I have another life demanding my attention!) Regards, and goodnight (or rather: good morning) Huldra 05:24, 28 September 2005 (UTC)