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== About Prince Pedro de Alcântara editing ==

Hello! Why was I blocked? I tried to reason with "DWC LR" and he didn´t even bother to answer me. I´ll repeat in here what I wrote to him:

"Hello!

I´ve seen the text you´ve put in the article about Pedro, eldest son of Isabel of Brazil and that renounced to his position as a brazilian prince. I would like to make a few comments:

'''1)''' Famous brazilians historians like Gilberto Freyre, Heitor Lyra and João Camillo has written about the renunciation and Luís´s accession as the new Prince Imperial. You can see it in the notes with the name of the authors, books and pages.

'''2)''' The original text that says that Pedro declared that his renunciation was invalid and not hereditary came from an unknown (pro-gastonist) writer in an obscure monarchist page. So, a biased text.

'''3)''' The text written by this unknown author that we don´t even know if he (she?) really exist it is a plagiarism from the french magazine "Point de Vue" from January 29, 1988 with the sole exception of this text where Pedro of Alcantara gives his opinion about his renunciation.

We can´t use a text that is a plagiarism from another and that doesn't even cite its sources."

As I told him, it´s quite weird that famous historians like the british Roderick J. Barman (author of "Citizen Emperor" and "Princess Isabel: Gender and Power in the nintieth century"), Gilberto Freyre (author of "Casa Grande e Senzala"), João Camillo Torres (author of "Democracia Coroada" or "Crowned Democracy"), Pedro Calmon, Heitor Lyra and many others all consider as a fact the renunciation of Pedro of Alcantara while the wikipedia´s editors are using as source a text from an unknown person from an obscure monarchist website.

I´d like to suggest you read the article ]. Anyway, I hope I helped a little bit. Thank you very much,

--] (]) 13:03, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

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Zita of Bourbon-Parma

You are doing nothing to improve the article by constantly reverting. Contemporary NYT articles show that she was also known as Zita of Parma and subsequently Zita di Borbone, Principessa di Parma. I have requested you point out what states that that name simply does not exist and you haven't done so, simply instead you regurgitate the same summary over and over. It seems you otherwise have no interest whatsoever in the article and that is why you are not offering further explanation. Charles 20:28, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Tomislav II of Croatia, 4th Duke of Aosta

hr:Tomislav II. as opposed to italian wikipedia also please see the discussion points that I have made. In brief - there was a Law decree on the Crown of king Zvonimir to which crown the right of rule has been transffered (like in the case of Crown of St. Stephen of Hungary). Also no ratification were predicted under the terms of that Law. Peter II of Yugoslavia has not been confirmed by the Croatian Parliament nor had any of his predecessors been confirmed. There is more facts to consider than just Italian Misplaced Pages. In Italy you have had 46 governments in 43 years (or simmilar statistics), you have right parties, autonomists, secesionists and left parties which sing praises to USSR to this day and age. They waive red flags with hammers and sickles. So obviously that "stream" of wiki-users on Italian wiki prevailed. -- Imbris (talk) 00:52, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

WP:Canvassing by Imbris. Please use your own good judgment and facts in making decisions. --DIREKTOR 00:57, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
The users which are present on this Misplaced Pages for a meere two months and who claim that English Misplaced Pages should be like the Italian one should reconsider their sources, this is the only thing I tryed to do. If such users do not clarify their position we should call them for what they really are. -- Imbris (talk) 20:58, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
?? I most certainly do not want to make this Misplaced Pages look like the Italian one! Where do you get that from? --DIREKTOR 02:12, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Louis Alexandre de Bourbon, comte de Toulouse

FactStraight, I have brought some changes to the article. One of them, a reference at Family and Death , is a link to an article in fr:wiki; although showing , the reference does not appear when clicking on . Would you mind fixing it? I added the link to References. Thank you. Frania W. (talk) 12:08, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Also added reference next to & nothing happens when clicking on either one. Frania W. (talk) 21:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Capitalization

I responded to your capitalization edits at Talk:Prince du Sang. WP:MOS-FR#Noble titles was specifically changed to allow the type of capitalization I use, which can be applied to the article Fils de France and all biographical articles of those who were actual Fils de France or Princes and Princesses du Sang. BoBo (talk) 00:54, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Prince of the blood

I did't write any article myself - as far as I can remember all I did was redirect the title away from the Prince section, to Prince du Sang. But strangely, I too have a memory of another, less French, article somewhere. Johnbod (talk) 17:57, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Louise Marie Adélaïde de Bourbon-Penthièvre

Would you mind taking a look at the last five revisions done on 12 May by 86.154.178.231 ? The changes do not bring anything new or noteworthy to the article; in fact they contradict what is already there & look to me as possible vandalism. Frania W. (talk) 01:12, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you FactStraight. Same "redundant or trivial information" is added to every article, making for unnecessary length, while interesting details are skipped - or removed without explanation, as was the case in several of my edits yesterday. Aurevoir! Frania W. (talk) 13:18, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for this update. I shall go thru the article & check with you before making any "conflicting" changes, or am in doubt about anything. Aurevoir! Frania W. (talk) 05:00, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Princess Olga of Greece and Denmark (born 1971)

As you commented on the titles of Princess Olga of Greece and Denmark (born 1971) I don't know if you would be interested in commenting in the WP:RM. - dwc lr (talk) 15:43, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Your stupidity

As you are aware, anything that i do gets reverted for no reason mainly by you; you use the WP:3RR the WP:SOCK and that stupid conciseness rubbish for your protection when really you know you are just doing it to be difficult and generally annoying.

As i saw at the top of your page, and i quote from another twit that You are doing nothing to improve the article by constantly reverting - this occuring regularly in the following:

Why?

The latter is quite amusing to me proving that you dont even read the article - you simply revert back because I did it - all I did was move the Template:House of Bourbon (France) to a different part of the page! Then you and your chronic arrogance go and revert it under the claim that there are rv excessive, redundant trivia contained in other articles then as always you groan on an on about the usual rubbish with please don't violate WP:3RR or WP:SOCK WHAT IS YOUR POINT ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Shut up!

Where is this claim about the WP:SOCK even from - another one of your ridiculous thoughts. I will not back down.

I have a small bit of advice for you: maybe you should read the WP:OWN article for your own clarification on the matter. You really are a bore; and a selfish one at that.

Sure our paths will meet again - Happy editing —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.178.231 (talk) 15:47, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Truce?

Fair enough, i understand; one point that i must make clear though is that i will not resist from adding/editing information to things which i find interesting etc (i.e. Louise etc). Personally, it is not me who links everything but that is of little matter. Also i do cite and use very 'reputable sources' for all information that i have contributed be it books or another source.

I will however, in keeping with the WP:3RR and personal choice, not edit anymore today but will resume later tomorrow; i will add such things and i would rather that you say to me what is unnecessary. Such things as lists of siblings (as has been seen i have a rather bad habit) etc will be kept to a minimum. Your views will be seriously noted.

As i said Sure our paths will meet again - Happy editing - this time not in such a vicious tone. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.178.231 (talk) 17:09, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

If you don't mind, FactStraight, I'm going to include this in my 3RR report, regardless of the fact that it might have concluded in a better manner than it started. Charles 20:21, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Cadet branch

Nice edit.--von Tamm (talk) 03:09, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Your recent edits

Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Misplaced Pages pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. If you can't type the tilde character, you should click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot (talk) 12:54, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

reverts etc

where is the sense in constantly reverting everything i do:

1) i will only revert it back; 2) naturally you are able to edit and know exactly what you are doing; as a result i do NOT see why you do not just edit the relevant article how you see fit and actually do something constructive with your time 3) it is a bore etc

so, as has been noted rather than using excuses for reverting - it is dull. please do not irritate me it is not needed. if teh edit that i have done is so terrible then inform me on the talk page - its what its for and its not like you havent. 86.164.90.95 (talk) 15:29, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Wrong person to accuse

I have received your message and responded to it on the sockpuppeting page. I am not your sockpuppeteer and don't like being so accused. Many times I have redone User:86.154.178.231 et al's work to make it more readable in English, and that is it. I frequently alter articles when the writing does not flow appropriately. I am not the person adding all the unsourced information about titles, wealth, residences and descendants to the French royalty articles BoBo (talk) 06:35, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

???

tbh i have a hangova so i cant be bothered to read your whole dramactic story......write less :):):) 86.164.90.95 (talk) 05:11, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Francization of Brussels

You suggested the title be changed, but seem not to have read to the end of the talk page. Care to check out the suggestions at the bottom and see what you think of them? Your opinion will help. Thanks, Oreo Priest 12:38, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Wilhelm II

I've started a requested move on Talk:William II, German Emperor. Since you somewhat supported my proposed move on his grandfather's article, could you please cast a vote on this one? Emperor001 (talk) 23:54, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, didn't know canvassing was frowned upon. Emperor001 (talk) 00:09, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Anon

No problem. I'll leave a note on his talk page explaining him what "consensus" means. BTW is blatantly obvious that the anon = User:Tbharding as 86.164.90.95 edited his userpage twice (). I'll explain to him a few other policies Misplaced Pages policies & guidelines. If he continues his disruptive behavior after several more warnings I could see a ban, but we'll see. I don't think he has ever even been blocked yet in the first place however. Khoikhoi 04:27, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Louis of battenberg

Well...On the one hand I am not impressed with the introduction as a description of someone who seems to have been a competent admiral rising to the very top. On the other, the intro of a wiki article is supposed to be a fair summary of the article. The article is quite top heavy on his royal connections and so, logically, the intro would mirror this. However, assuming the intro stays about the same length, I would drop the start of para 2 about the queen intervening in his career, this is basically gossip about did she-didn't she, and have a middle para about his career. Being top in liutenants exam with best ever seamanship, inventing battenberg course indictor (assuming this is true and significant, seems to be), and some other career highlights. The third para comes back to his royal connections and I think needs to stay, as a marker of his place in tthe separate field of being a royal. Sandpiper (talk) 07:39, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

REDFLAG

Please respond to the request at Talk:Gian Gastone de' Medici, Grand Duke of Tuscany#Gian Gastone's Private Life. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 22:01, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Re

I am not the source of this information! I do not even remember myself editing this article! Anyway, I found the legislative decree in a requiring subscription Greek legal site. I cannot find an online translation, but it is about the Greek royal family. Article 2 may be of interest, defining the members of the royal family: 1) all the legitimate (those born out of wedlock are excluded) descendants of King George I, if they still hold the Hellenic citizenship and the arising from the Constitution (before 1974) right of succession, 2) the legitimate husbands and wives of the aforementioned persons or their widowers and widows (not re-married).

I don't know if this helps, but I cannot translate the whole decree, unless you want me to search for something very particular. In any case, User:DrKiernan is an expert with kings etc. He may be able to help!--Yannismarou (talk) 20:01, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Stop the vandalism on Michael I of Romania

... or else you will be reported to the appropriate Wiki authorities. Thank you in advance for your (unlikely) cooperation! Nontrickyy (talk) 17:36, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Do not revert now or else you will be in violation of 3RR. Nontrickyy (talk) 02:38, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
If you report me for 3RR violation, I'll report you for sheer vandalism. Nontrickyy (talk) 03:08, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

October 2008

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours in accordance with Misplaced Pages's blocking policy for violating the three-revert rule. Please be more careful to discuss controversial changes or seek dispute resolution rather than engaging in an edit war. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below. King of 06:17, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

About Prince Pedro de Alcântara editing

Hello! Why was I blocked? I tried to reason with "DWC LR" and he didn´t even bother to answer me. I´ll repeat in here what I wrote to him:

"Hello!

I´ve seen the text you´ve put in the article about Pedro, eldest son of Isabel of Brazil and that renounced to his position as a brazilian prince. I would like to make a few comments:

1) Famous brazilians historians like Gilberto Freyre, Heitor Lyra and João Camillo has written about the renunciation and Luís´s accession as the new Prince Imperial. You can see it in the notes with the name of the authors, books and pages.

2) The original text that says that Pedro declared that his renunciation was invalid and not hereditary came from an unknown (pro-gastonist) writer in an obscure monarchist page. So, a biased text.

3) The text written by this unknown author that we don´t even know if he (she?) really exist it is a plagiarism from the french magazine "Point de Vue" from January 29, 1988 with the sole exception of this text where Pedro of Alcantara gives his opinion about his renunciation.

We can´t use a text that is a plagiarism from another and that doesn't even cite its sources."

As I told him, it´s quite weird that famous historians like the british Roderick J. Barman (author of "Citizen Emperor" and "Princess Isabel: Gender and Power in the nintieth century"), Gilberto Freyre (author of "Casa Grande e Senzala"), João Camillo Torres (author of "Democracia Coroada" or "Crowned Democracy"), Pedro Calmon, Heitor Lyra and many others all consider as a fact the renunciation of Pedro of Alcantara while the wikipedia´s editors are using as source a text from an unknown person from an obscure monarchist website.

I´d like to suggest you read the article Luís, Prince Imperial of Brazil. Anyway, I hope I helped a little bit. Thank you very much,

--Lecen (talk) 13:03, 2 November 2008 (UTC)