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==The proposed policy== ==The proposed policy==
#"Speedy keep" means to remove the AFD notice from the article and close the AFD discussion, but not to unlist or delete that discussion.
Debates at ] (AfD) can be closed with a "Keep" result before the standard discussion period has elapsed in the following circumstances only.
#An article can be speedily kept ONLY if either
#The nomination is obviously bad faith. Examples of this include:
#*the nominator withdraws the AFD and there have been no votes to delete so far
#*nominating an extremely high profile article (e.g. ], ])
#*the nominator clearly states that s/he actually wants the article renamed, merged, moved or redirected, and happens to have used the wrong tag for that
#*nominating a "key article" that unquestionably belongs in an encyclopaedia (e.g. ], ], ])
#*the nomination was clear-cut vandalism or WP:POINT and nobody disputes this or votes to delete it anyway (since calling a nomination vandalistic does not make it so and actual POINT-making AFD nominations appear far less frequently than accusations thereof).
#*the reason given for nomination is entirely unrelated to Misplaced Pages (e.g. "] should not exist because it has broken the international law that created it"{{ref|Israel}})
#Please realize that while you may personally dislike having an AFD tag on your favorite article, it is not actually doing any harm, and will be gone in less than a week.
#At least two of the first few good-faith expressions of opinion call for a speedy-keep, AND
##there are no good-faith votes for actions other than Keep (including "strong keep", etc)
##there are no good-faith objections to it being a speedy-keep (e.g. "Keep, but don't speedy it").
##at least four different users acting in good-faith have expressed their opinions.
*"Good-faith" means those opinions, votes and comments that would be taken into account at the close of an AfD debate after the standard discussion time has elapsed.
*Criterion 1 supersedes criterion 2.


When a discussion is closed as a speedy-keep the following actions MUST be completed: When a discussion is closed as a speedy-keep the following actions MUST be completed:
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#Although closing AfD discussions that end in keep votes can be done by non-admins, it is recommended that only administrators close discussions as speedy-keeps. Normal users are encouraged to vote "speedy keep" instead. #Although closing AfD discussions that end in keep votes can be done by non-admins, it is recommended that only administrators close discussions as speedy-keeps. Normal users are encouraged to vote "speedy keep" instead.
#Whether a record of the nomination is added to the talk page of the article is at the discretion of the closing user. If it is noted, it is recommended that '''<nowiki>{{subst:oldafdfull|date=date of nomination|result=Speedy Keep|votepage=article name}}</nowiki>''' be used. #Whether a record of the nomination is added to the talk page of the article is at the discretion of the closing user. If it is noted, it is recommended that '''<nowiki>{{subst:oldafdfull|date=date of nomination|result=Speedy Keep|votepage=article name}}</nowiki>''' be used.
#''Featured articles'' that appear on the ] qualify for criterion 1.
#Articles should not be kept under criterion 2 until at least two hours after the AfD tag is added to the article.
#The afd tag can be removed from articles that meet criterion 1 if no AfD subpage has been created within 30 minutes of the tag being added.
#Articles meeting either criterion can be kept if the discussion has not been linked to the appropriate AfD day page within 30 minutes of the sub-page being created.


==Discussion== ==Discussion==
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==Voting== ==Voting==
] a democracy. Since this is an attempt to codify what already happens, this should not require a formal vote. Please discuss on the talk page whether you agree that this matches current practice.
Users eligible to vote are those that have at least 50 edits when the voting opens.<br>
'''Voting is not yet open, please discuss the proposals on the talk page instead.'''

==References==
#{{note|Israel}} Paraphrased from an actual nomination.

Revision as of 10:06, 14 October 2005

The following is a proposed Misplaced Pages policy, guideline, or process. The proposal may still be in development, under discussion, or in the process of gathering consensus for adoption.

Preamble

This is a proposed policy with the intention of generating agreement on when closing debates at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion before the normal discussion period ends. This proposal will only apply to closing such discussions with a "Keep" result - i.e. it is intended to be complementary to Speedy deletion.

Also proposed are a set of associated guidelines to accompany the policy. The guidelines are independent of the policy and so one or both may be accepted or rejected.

This is not about deletion reform, the policy and guidelines are intended to work for the current system only, and in that way can be considered interim. Whether they are relevant to a future system or wanted by the community in a future system is irrelevant.

The proposed policy

  1. "Speedy keep" means to remove the AFD notice from the article and close the AFD discussion, but not to unlist or delete that discussion.
  2. An article can be speedily kept ONLY if either
    • the nominator withdraws the AFD and there have been no votes to delete so far
    • the nominator clearly states that s/he actually wants the article renamed, merged, moved or redirected, and happens to have used the wrong tag for that
    • the nomination was clear-cut vandalism or WP:POINT and nobody disputes this or votes to delete it anyway (since calling a nomination vandalistic does not make it so and actual POINT-making AFD nominations appear far less frequently than accusations thereof).
  3. Please realize that while you may personally dislike having an AFD tag on your favorite article, it is not actually doing any harm, and will be gone in less than a week.

When a discussion is closed as a speedy-keep the following actions MUST be completed:

  1. subst the {{at}} and {{ab}} templates at the top and bottom respectively of the AfD sub-page. The outcome of the debate should be listed as "Speedy keep"
  2. remove the afd tag from the nominated article, noting in the edit summary that the outcome of the debate was a speedy keep (e.g. "Removing AfD Tag - SPEEDY KEEP").
  • The AfD subpage should not be deleted.

The proposed guidelines

  1. Although closing AfD discussions that end in keep votes can be done by non-admins, it is recommended that only administrators close discussions as speedy-keeps. Normal users are encouraged to vote "speedy keep" instead.
  2. Whether a record of the nomination is added to the talk page of the article is at the discretion of the closing user. If it is noted, it is recommended that {{subst:oldafdfull|date=date of nomination|result=Speedy Keep|votepage=article name}} be used.

Discussion

All discussion on the talk page please.

Voting

WP:NOT a democracy. Since this is an attempt to codify what already happens, this should not require a formal vote. Please discuss on the talk page whether you agree that this matches current practice.

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