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To-do list for Kyle Broflovski: edit · history · watch · refresh · Updated 2008-01-21 Here are some tasks awaiting attention: Cleanup : Delete excessive amount of in-universe information. (Done) Copyedit : Some parts seem rather choppy. Expand : Find out-of-universe information and sources. i.e. who Kyle is based on, the producers' opinion of Kyle Verify : Find more sources. Remove OR. (i.e. It seems like Kyle is the most...) Priority 2

First Appearance?

The article lists Kyle's first appearance in the short Jesus vs. Frosty. But, there is no character in that short that resembles Kyle. Should this be changed to Jesus vs. Santa? Andy120290 02:07, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Kyle is the one that thinks that a snowman coming to life is cool —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.219.240.8 (talk) 13:54, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

It might be more accurate to state that these were characters were BASED on South Park characters. If you watch the special, "the fat kid" who obviously most closely resembles Cartman, is called Kenny. And true to form, "Cartman" is killed first. Although the unnamed child who resembles Kenny except for a visible mouth is the next to die. PatrickLMT (talk) 15:58, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Order Of Who's Oldest To youngest Doesn't Make Sense

When I looked at the South Park calender and then say the articles of the four boys. it doesn't make sense how Cartman can be the 2nd oldest, Kenny be the 3rd oldest and Kyle being the youngest. I'm sure Stan is the oldest out of the boys. Remember all the boys are 9. I will use the years 1996, 1997, and 1998 as examples and take it as this year of 2006. Stan's birthday is October 19 so and he's the oldest so he would have to be born in 1996. Kenny's birthday is March 22 but his article says he's the 3rd oldest and Eric Cartman's article says his birthday is July 1st and he's the 2nd oldest. But if Kenny's the 3rd oldest that would make him born in 1998. Kyle's birthday is May 26 and if Cartman is the 2nd oldest and Kenny being the 3rd oldest that would make him born in 1998. If Kyle and Kenny are born in 1998 that would make it impossible for them to be 9. What it should be is Stan being the oldest born on October 19, 1996, Kenny being the 2nd oldest born on March 22, 1997, Kyle being the 3rd oldest born on May 26, 1997, and Cartman being the youngest born on July 1, 1997.

Information Of Who's Oldest To Youngest Out Of The Four Boys From The South Park Calender

I got this information from the South Park Calender.

Birthdays If you use the cutoff date of September 1 by which all kids have to be 8 to enter 3rd grade, or 9 to enter 4th grade, then the four boys turn 9 during 3rd grade, and 10 during 4th grade. Given their birthdays in 3rd grade, the boys turn nine in this order: Stan - October 19 Kenny - March 22 Kyle - May 26 Cartman - July 1 If Cartman's birthday is February 4 instead of July 1, the dates are Stan - October 19 Cartman - February 4 Kenny - March 22 Kyle - May 26 Stan is thus the oldest of the four boys. Whether Kyle or Cartman is the youngest depends on when you believe Cartman's birthday falls. Cartman's is the only birthday we've seen so far (except for Jesus' and Grandpa Marsh's).

From this information Stan is the only one that we really know what spot of who's oldest to youngest out of the four boys which Stan is the oldest and that we can put in his article. Cartman's birthday could either be February 4 or July 1 so Cartman is either the 2nd oldest or the youngest which we can put in his article. Kenny is either the 2nd oldest or the 3 oldest which we can put in his article. Kyle is either the 3rd oldest or the youngest which we can put in his article. I couldn't find a site that can prove whether Cartman's birthday is February 4 or July 1.

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Weapons

Kyle was too willing to give up his weapon in "Good Times With Weapons" witch proves if he had time alone he would most likely practice. I've read that a few times, but it still makes no sense to me. Can we delete it?

I would say yes since that doesn't make sense to me either. Oh, and sign your post next time. Misteryoshi 11:17, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Athletics

The handicap of being black. The Black link lead to 'african american'. If you are black you are not neccesarily african american.

"the one who views things the most logically. Since Kyle is the more rational of his peers"?

Kyle was fooled by the Blainetologists in The Super Best Friends and by John Edward in The Biggest Douche in the Universe. He also lost faith in God after a single morning's thought in Cartmanland, and tried his damnedest to follow the trends in Chinpokomon. There are probably other examples. If nobody tells me why he's the most rational or logical in a week, I'm taking that out. 152.3.46.147 22:43, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, fuck it. I don't feel like editing that out. Someone else do it. 152.3.46.147 05:25, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't need to be edited out, since, as it stands, it's factual. "Most logical" is a relative term. A person can behave illogically, but still be more logical than his peers, as long as his peers have a history of behaving even more illogically. PatrickLMT (talk) 15:55, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Sick most easily?

The part about Kyle's health problems mentions that he was the last to get sick in the Chickenpox episode. It might be worth mentioning that after his kidney transplant in Cherokee Hair Tampons, Kyle would have been on antirejection drugs, which supress the immune system. Chickenpox was before the transplant. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.8.140.149 (talk) 03:48, 25 February 2007 (UTC).

Image

I switched the image, because vector images should be used in place of regular images. FictionH 21:18, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Well someone's going to have to change it again because he wears an orange jacket and a green hat, not the other way around. Mattbutcher 21:28, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Say no more, I'll fix that. Despite the fact that it is an orange hat and green jacket in the version I watch. FictionH 21:39, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

All fixed. FictionH 21:50, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I apologize for his brown eyes. I admit, he looks ugly with them. I'll give him blue eyes. FictionH 23:46, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I beg your pardon, but I'm afraid you're wrong. In the first place, you should not add any colour, as that is not how he appears to the audience. In the second place, In "Good Times With Weapons", his anime self is shown to have either brown or violet eyes. To give him blue eyes would be lying. Wilhelmina Will June 24th, 2007.

Sorry if it really is an orange jacket and green hat, but they make him look ugly, and it's the other way around in the version I watch. In fact, I'm now a Comedy Central employee and we have plans to change the way he looks, so I'm gonna put his future look. FictionH 20:19, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

You're lying.

A) If you're a Comedy Central employee than you'd be living in the US, where Kyle has an orange jacket and green hat.

B) Comedy Central is not responsible for Kyle's color scheme. This change would be directed by Matt or Trey and done at South Park Studios.

Please refrain from editing the picture again, it is fine the way it is. Tweeks Coffee 20:54, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

SVG Image

That one is stupid looking. Please remake an SVG version of the Kyle image, but in the same pose as the current .GIF one. FictionH 20:30, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Or here is an idea - you could do it yourself. All the hard work has already been done. It would be trivially easy to change the pose. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 21:07, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

• • But where can I download Inkscape? FictionH 21:09, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
    • You last edit is vandalism. Any more trolling and I will block you. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 21:10, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
      • It isn't trolling. FictionH 21:12, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
        • Oh well that's alright then. Do whatever you like as long as you say it isn't trolling (that was sarcasm) I'm still going to block you if you delete an image or if you revert to the non vector image. I'll call it vandalism in the block log instead. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 21:15, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
          • But it pretty much is useless to have an image if there's an edit war about it. FictionH 21:17, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
            • So stop this lame edit war, Accept that SVG is they way wikipedia is heading. Download inkscape from thier website and learn to use it. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 21:19, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
• I've removed the PNG version of the image. There's no need to have two almost-identical images. JameiLei 14:42, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

They're not identical. The PNG I made has a sad face, and the mittens are a darker green. And I absolutely hate it when someone claims an image of mine is useless. --98E 21:00, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

You're right, they're not identical, but it serves no real purpose. Would you at least be willing to convert the image to SVG format to meet Wiki's preferred guidelines? Tweeks Coffee 02:02, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

I really have no clue how to change a PNG image right into an SVG image, and besides, I rarely use Inkscape. Is there a tutorial that shows my how to change a MS Paint/Adobe Photoshop PNG into an Inkscape SVG? Only then will I be able to convert it. --98E 22:24, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

You know, I myself haven't attempted to anything with SVGs. I did locate this tool which is specifically made for converting PNG to SVG. You can also try SVG tools for other options. Tweeks Coffee 01:32, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

There is no real way to convert PNG to SVG at the click of a button, as far as I know, due to the way PNG and SVG are created. SVG, or scale vector graphic, uses a series of points to tell the computer how to draw a picture on-the-fly, whereas PNG records the phyischal pixels that the computer must show. So, to convert it, the computer has to work out the individual shapes for the image, and while this isn't actually impossible, it can be quite difficult. You may have to accept that your image cannot be used on Misplaced Pages. I'm sure there are plenty of fan sites who will be glad to use it with a free licence. Smomo 16:12, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Anti-Jew Content?

There's some stuff about jews being steriotypically portrayed as greedy or amoral; I think that this is BS and should be removed. Should I do so? 146.95.224.173 12:43, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

You're right, and I removed it yesterday. Although Jews unfortunately often are portrayed as greedy, it has absloutely nothing to with Kyle's personality. Pointing it out as an anormality every time a fictional Jew is not portrayed as the Jews were stereotyped in the Middle Ages and totalitarian states should not be necessary in a free world. 96T 13:31, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Well you could say Cartman views Kyle and every other Jewish person in South Park as the stereotypical Jew. 72.152.135.75 (talk) 02:36, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Kyle's age

Kyle is NOT 8 years old any more. In case people haven't payed attention, age mistakes are always made on South Park. Stan once said he was 9, then 8 in a later episode. Cartman is repeatedly called "an 8 year old boy" even after being confirmed to be 9 years old. If Kyle is also having age mistakes made about him, why does he become 8 when Stan and Cartman are not? Grieferhate (talk) 22:49, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Kyle is 9. Please stop changing it. I know everyone is now convinced he's 8, but as I said earlier, age mistakes are made all the time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Grieferhate (talk • contribs) 23:19, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

How many times do I have to tell you people that age mistakes are made all the time, this doesn't mean that he is a different age from the others, as age mistakes are made to them as well? CAN'T YOU PEOPLE TAKE A BLOOMIN' HINT!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??! Grieferhate (talk) 09:19, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

OMG! YOU PEOPLE JUST CAN'T TAKE A BLOODY HINT, CAN YOU!!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!?! Grieferhate (talk) 18:01, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Whoa! Slow down! Take deep breaths. Don't worry. If the users try to change his age to 8 again, I'll just revert it, and explain to them on their talkpages. It won't be hard. Young Mr. Broflovski is on my watchlist. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 22:49, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Phew! Thank you very much! I was getting worried nobody would take my side! Grieferhate (talk) 18:01, 13 January 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.84.59.36 (talk)

Uh, where did the age "10" come from? (talk) 18:01, 13 January 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.84.59.36 (talk)

Kyle is still 8 years old in the UK as we have not been shown the twelfth series yet, and in the episode Imaginationland, Sheila says that he is ' nearly 9', meaning that he is probably 9 by the time that series 12 is aired.

But you're totally missing my point - age mistakes are made all the time. Stan has referred to himself as 8 years old as late as Season 9. Cartman is referred to as 8 as late as Season 8, so if Kyle is referred to as 8 in Season 11, why does that make it any better to officially list him as 8 when listing Stan and Cartman as 8 is not? I think you're being completely unfair. Also, Sheila may have been calling Kyle "almost 9" metaphorically in telling him that he is too old to believe in Leprechauns. Sometimes a mother may say to a 15 year old "You're almost 15," to clarify how old he is. That doesn't necessarily mean he's 14 years old. Grieferhate (talk) 19:22, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Blood Type

1)Is this information really relevant? 2) What's it doing in the personality section? The type of blood someone has usually doesn't affect their personality. 72.152.135.75 (talk) 02:41, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

It's trash and it's gone. --Captain Infinity (talk) 04:05, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Name Variations

I'm curious as to whether the article should expand a bit on the variable spelling of Stan's last name. It chooses Broflovski as the preferred Latin alphabet spelling, yet also mentions Brovlofski as appearing on the door of his father's law office, and also that it is derived from Brosloski.

Maybe the article should go into detail on the Slavic/Cyrillic origins of the name in question, and how its variations are simply the result of Latin transliteration. In Poland, for instance, a common spelling is Wroclawski.

--Please let me know what you think.

Pine (talk) 22:23, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Religious views of the Broflovskis

Even that Gerald (Kyles' father) is wearing a yarmelke on his head and Kyles' mother is dressing as an orthodox Jewish women they seem to be Reformes: they don't keep Kosher (like in "Asspen" episode), they don't keep the Shabat and they definitely have left-wing point of view.

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